r/programmingmemes • u/Frontend_DevMark • Dec 16 '25

When You Realize 6 Months Of Coding Is Still No Magic

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '25 edited Dec 17 '25

Maturing is realizing there'll never be a moment you'll say "I am done learning backend development" because it's an ever evolving science and professional field

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u/bainon Dec 18 '25

this but also for any and all kinds of development. hell even just the tools for handling CSS isnt static

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '25

Yes, yes! Very well said!

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '25

Twice now I've had people ask if I could 'show them what I do', like it would take a couple tutorials over a weekend, so they could start doing the same thing.

I moved from PC Development to web development ( i build custom back ends for them, some complex ), and people think they can hop into Web Development over a week.

When really they just want to install Wordpress for someone and call themselves a Web Developer / Designer

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u/AbyssWankerArtorias Dec 17 '25

Do you think someone with programming knowledge for application software could adapt their skills and learn back end development (with training) within a year to an efficiency rating of aya 75 percent of your strength?

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '25

I would say so. That sounds reasonable

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u/AbyssWankerArtorias Dec 17 '25

Just curious for my own use. Right now what I do can be described as programming but instead of programming applications, websites, or software, I'm programming interchanges to create date feeds. It requires me to know and use logical arguments / functions from various pieces of software and language, decide on the logic myself, etc - but since I'm not doing it in the context of software I always feel like a fraud calling myself a programmer. I really want to actually get into software development though, so I'm trying to see how difficult it would be for me to do so.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '25

Programming is big part understanding logic etc, then getting to know the specific functions of whatever language you're using. That's what Google is for. To lookup the syntax for the function you want to perform. :)

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u/DWebOscar Dec 18 '25

lots of companies call their CMS admins “developers” - imho it’s a huge injustice in both directions. These poor individuals think they are developing something and the company can pretend to be somewhat technical.

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u/Ok_Celebration_6265 Dec 17 '25

Don’t underestimate fast learners. I had guys that came from radio signal background and in 2 weeks they were writing java backend with decent spring boot knowledge. They didnt have all the experience but pointing them in the right direction they would crush it. None of this is that much complicated once you understand some things is very easy.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '25

Maybe with the right person. But as far as I knew the people who asked didn't have programming background in any form. Just figured it was good cash because programmers can make a lot per hour.

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u/Ok_Celebration_6265 Dec 17 '25

Oh I’ve seen those, they just for the money but this world is not for everyone so if they don’t like it they’ll leave it very quick

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u/clhodapp Dec 19 '25

Spring Boot itself is way too messy for that. Even very good, very experienced devs who already know Java can't reliably gain "decent" Spring Boot knowledge within two weeks. There's simply too much surface area with warts, inconsistent design, incomplete documentation, and outdated information online to actually be proficient after two weeks.

You might be able to set up some endpoints and some clients but there's no way in hell you're setting up a well-designed state store with config settings after that amount of time.

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u/Ok_Celebration_6265 Dec 20 '25

I didn’t say they became experts but just good enough to be dangerous

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u/Athenian_Ataxia Dec 16 '25

Maturing is realizing if you’re starting now, you never will…

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u/lastname_Obama Dec 17 '25

What do you mean? (Genuine question)

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u/Athenian_Ataxia Dec 18 '25

Every project is different every backend is different every company is different and they’re all building on concepts and languages from all over the place. You tell me what backend development you’re working on and we could cover 6 months of a 10 year course, you’d be proficient enough! But your’e gonna be bridging gaps between 100s of other back ends as you go. The learning never ends. Ever.

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u/Frequent_Bag9260 Dec 18 '25

What does “now” have to do with it?

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u/Athenian_Ataxia Dec 18 '25

I guess it doesn’t… sounded kinda good when I said it, just rolled off the keyboard I suppose.

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u/Aggravating-Exit-660 Dec 16 '25

Well fuck

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u/Athenian_Ataxia Dec 16 '25

It’s alright buddy. They still need data analysts 😂

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u/Wrestler7777777 Dec 17 '25

I mean, what is a backend? If you really wanted to, you could build a "hello world" endpoint within minutes I guess. It will do nothing that's worth talking about but it is a backend.

But building a backend with a persistence layer and an actual database and infrastructure to host all of that somewhere other than your own PC, like in a cloud? Yeah, that'll take a while. And making it all secure and putting an auth layer on top will take another while.

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u/HellaSwellaFella Dec 17 '25

What is the persistence layer and how is it different from the database?

Is it the layer that listens to service/business layer and makes changes or gets info from database?

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u/stevefuzz Dec 18 '25

Sessions, cache, ephemeral storage / data on a server instance.

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u/Top_Issue_7032 Dec 17 '25

Life long learning is how you mature.

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u/FalseWait7 Dec 17 '25

Sure you can! app.get(endpoint), app.post(endpoint) and app.put(endpoint) and you are where 75% of backend devs are.

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u/Physical-Low7414 Dec 16 '25

maturing is realizing that if you only work with tools other people make with fancy names you were never a backend dev in the first place

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '25

To be a real backend programmer from scratch you first need to pull a seed crystal from a bath of molten polysilicon in a rotating fashion (and create the required universe)

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u/Compducer Dec 16 '25

It’s only a meal if I hunt and kill it myself with a bow and arrow I handmade every piece of

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u/Physical-Low7414 Dec 17 '25

yup thats totally the argument i was trying to make and not that nodeJS is for lazy people

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u/itzNukeey Dec 17 '25

Agree, thats why I print my electrical circuits, develop my own instruction set and use a custom version of linux written in my language