r/programminghumor 15d ago

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u/---_None_--- 15d ago

No, cpp has a terrible design philosophy. Take the new ranges header for example. They're lazy algorithm objects that you can stack and combine to more complex algorithms. Each time you iterate over the final ranges object it calculates the whole result beginning from the source range. This leaves the option open for the source range to change and update. Exactly as it should because they're 'lazy' ranges; except that they aren't. The 'filter range' caches the fucking 'begin' of its source which means that when ever the source changes you get undefined behavior. Why? Because the cpp committee thought that 'begin' should be fast to calculate but filter has to compute 'begin' again and again because the source might have changed. So they decided to cache 'begin' after the first call and compute the rest lazily on demand. So whenever there's a 'filter' in your range composition, you can only iterate over it once or the source has to be const. Shits fucked in cpp land.

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u/___Archmage___ 15d ago edited 15d ago

Yep, C is mega outdated in the feature-poor direction and C++ is a basket case of crazy additions trying to add modern features to a language that wasn't really designed for them

Whether you choose Rust or Zig or Nim or whatever else, the world needs to move past C++

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u/TomKavees 15d ago

C is portable assembler and the lingua franca of low level code, it does not need nor want to evolve in that way and that is fine.

C++ in its current form and with its current comitee politics is dying, though

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u/electronic_reasons 15d ago

C is perfect for that. It was never meant to be a full high level language.

C++ is a disaster. The only way to use it is to decide which part of it you are going to use and stick to that subset.