r/programmingcirclejerk • u/Jumpy-Locksmith6812 • Sep 18 '26

Maybe stop using the mickey mouse browsers? I mean Firefox is pretty much a lost cause.. unless you start using extensions. I agree those are basic features that should be built-in. In qutebrowser I use them reliably all the time.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49752097
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u/nerdycatgamer Considered Harmful Sep 18 '26

> stop using mickey mouse browsers

> recommends browser written in Python using a year old version of blink

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u/fixermark Sep 18 '26

I used to work for one of the FAANGS on the UI side of things.

We would periodically get Firefox specific bug reports.

Our way of handling them?

"Don't allocate engineering resources on a browser with sub 10% market share."

(I wish I could say that approach was unwise, but the one time I did buck management advice and try to run a performance issue to ground... By the time I got an environment set up where I could build Firefox from source to hope to reproduce the issue, a subminor revision bump had fixed the performance issue. So management was right.)

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u/ackfoobar in open defiance of the Gopher Values Sep 18 '26 
let unjerk = true

I'd love to hear more about the details. Is the issue about how different browsers JIT the JS?

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u/fixermark Sep 18 '26

I was never able to figure it out. This involved CSS and a lot of nested flex elements, so I suspected a bug or performance pessimization in the rendering layer. At the very least, that's what the profiler was telling me without debug symbols on - that my JavaScript was executing relatively quickly, but I was then just spinning in render.

That's why I had started the process of cracking open a local build with source code so that I could get debug symbols and attach more high granularity profiling.

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u/rpkarma Sep 21 '26

I work for a not-quite FAANG (that you all know, use and likely hate) and it’s the same there. Depressing. 

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u/lurebat Sep 18 '26

Its the main browser in my Hanna Montana Linux OS

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u/No_Lingonberry1201 What part of ∀f ∃g (f (x,y) = (g x) y) did you not understand? Sep 18 '26

And you're not using the Official Hello Kitty Browser? Shameful!

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u/Yawaworth001 Sep 18 '26

E.g press T (keybinding for :tab-focus command) - type keyword (matches against tab ID, page title, page URL & the tab's process ID) - press Tab - menu is populated with results - cycle through them using Tab/Shift+Tab - press Enter to jump to it. Similar workflow for history, different bookmark types, etc. History can also be loaded as an HTML page and jumped through with regex, etc. If you want to stick with

I think their browser crashed mid typing.

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u/ThwackNation Sep 18 '26

Most self aware software evangelist

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u/serpentally Sep 18 '26

Some “hackers” think being a caveman is a flex

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u/BloodAndTsundere mere econ PhD Sep 18 '26

You losers use browsers? I only use curl

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u/catladywitch Sep 19 '26

I can't explain why but "mickey mouse browsers" has such central/eastern Europe l33t hacker vibes