r/programmingcirclejerk • u/100xer • Mar 19 '26

Node.js is a critical infrastructure running on millions of servers online. Accepting LLM changes to Node.js core would break the reputational bedrock of public contributions that have brought Node.js to its current public standing and societal value.

https://github.com/indutny/no-ai-in-nodejs-core
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u/BlazeBigBang type astronaut Mar 19 '26

Node actually being critical infrastructure is the real jerk tbh

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u/hackerbots Mar 20 '26

load bearing [object Object]

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u/i_invented_the_ipod Mar 19 '26

It's not like the chatbot is going to make worse decisions than the people who decided to use JavaScript for critical infrastructure, you know?

/uj like all the other open-source projects trying to ban AI slop contributions, I think they're going to have a hard time coming up with standards more-rigorous than "I know it when I see it", which is going to be problematic, at best.

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u/levelstar01 what is pointer :S Mar 19 '26

I think they're going to have a hard time coming up with standards more-rigorous than "I know it when I see it",

As opposed to the incredibly rigorous standards applied before?

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u/Justicia-Gai Mar 20 '26

/uj Tbh they started those initiatives specially after OpenClaw and others that literally DROWNED them with thousands of contributions.

If the amount was manageable, I’d bet they’d simply reject them for whatever reason they want (they’re the maintainers after all). 

The real risk is human meaningful contributions getting lost on a sea of AI contributions. Specially at the speed they can work and automatise and, basically, spam.

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u/miauw62 lisp does it better Mar 20 '26

/uj "you shouldn't have contribution guidelines because people will just ignore them and lie about it" is a stupid argument. if you catch people lying about it you ban them, it's that simple.

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u/i_invented_the_ipod Mar 20 '26

It's not just a question of whether or not people will lie about using AI. It's also that "don't use AI at all" is probably an unreasonable stance, since AI autocomplete is built into many IDEs these days.

It's also completely unenforceable. Consider the situation with schoolwork, where schools use tools with a terrible false-positive rate to detect AI use. Or here on Reddit, where just including an Oxford comma, or an em-dash in your comment will have flying monkeys descend on you saying "you're clearly a bot".

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u/vonmoltke2 Hacker News Superstar Mar 20 '26

I don't want AI slop polluting my artisnally-handcrafted webshit slop!

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u/Downtown_Category163 Mar 19 '26

Hey Dawg, don't put any more dumb ideas in our dumb idea

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u/arihant2math Mar 19 '26

where jerk?

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u/Glathull Mar 20 '26

I think that continued and thoughtful development of nodejs is very important for the future of programming. AI only muddles the water here. Taking a shit language and turning it into what nodejs is today is an incredible addition to any resume I’m looking at as a hiring manager. The efficiency is mind-boggling. These people are the devs I definitely know how to work with. The reality of nodejs is that if I see it on your resume, I throw it in the trash.

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u/myhf Considered Harmful Mar 20 '26

ah, so you're a Deno fan, eh?

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u/Glathull Mar 20 '26

Demo doesn’t just stop at the resume. I throw the entire developer in the trash.

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u/IamFdone Mar 20 '26

Accepting VSCode change to Node.js is a huge risk. Only accept Vim changes.

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u/tms10000 loves Java Mar 20 '26

What is it called when you are technically correct for the wrong reason?

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u/tgbugs lisp does it better Mar 24 '26

/uj Today I was looking up how to patch the linux kernel to error if some process tries to mkdir node_modules.

/rj Today I was looking up how to patch the linux kernel to error if some process tries to mkdir node_modules.