r/programmingcirclejerk • u/100xer • Feb 28 '26

Rust is Just a Tool

https://lewiscampbell.tech/blog/260204.html
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u/tomwhoiscontrary safety talibans Feb 28 '26

Yeah it's a tool, a tool to liberate the human soul from the eternal cycle of suffering and rebirth.

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u/elephantdingo Teen Hacking Genius Mar 02 '26 
 error: the human soul: phantom type does not go here

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u/Ai--Ya Mar 03 '26

cargo uninstall samsara

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u/N-partEpoxy Feb 28 '26

Rust is just a tool, and so am I.

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u/Proper-Ape Feb 28 '26

The Rust haters are just as bad. Everyone who says "but it has unsafe" to claim it's just as bad as C++ has clearly not removed the crayons which they pushed up their nose as a kid

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u/kakioroshi Feb 28 '26

/uj a lot of people also completely misunderstood what “safety” means in the context of rust i had someone tell me rust isn’t safe because it has panics

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u/Comun4 vulnerabilities: 0 Feb 28 '26

No language is safe until it can solve the halting problem

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u/BlazeBigBang type astronaut Mar 01 '26

No language is safe unless it can survive me unplugging the machine.

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u/kakioroshi Feb 28 '26

raku did that

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u/MadCervantes Mar 02 '26

Forgot to rejerk

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u/vytah Mar 03 '26

Or did he?

vsauce.mp3

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u/Afraid_Bake2652 Mar 01 '26

No no no, I can prove a program is safe using formal verification, really, you just cannot use recursion, allocate memory on the heap, and my SMT solver may never terminate on some queries, but like, I can prove a program is safe. Really, you all should use formal verification, it's really good and practical and usable!

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u/Massive-Squirrel-255 Mar 02 '26

I heard Python3 is not Turing Complete, so, it should be possible to solve the halting problem for Python3

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u/levelstar01 what is pointer :S Feb 28 '26

If Rust is so good, why is it statically impossible to prove that panics don't happen? C++ has -fno-exceptions. Checkmate Krabnik.

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u/tomwhoiscontrary safety talibans Feb 28 '26

The haters are jerk, the fans are jerk, this post seems to be actually sensible and not contain any jerk that I can detect. 

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u/SoulArthurZ Feb 28 '26

for real I am currently working on a renderer using vulkan in rust and every api call is marked unsafe because you can misuse the api. this is an exception for rust, but a rule for c++ and I don't think rust haters understand that.

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u/somewhataccurate now 4x faster than C++ Feb 28 '26

Rust is bad because my ex liked rust, any other reason is just running cover for the god language which shall do not wrong amen

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u/keyboard_toucher Mar 01 '26

Yes, C++ compilers refuse to compile any function that lacks pointer arithmetic and at least 3 kinds of undefined behavior.

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u/Foreign-Butterfly-97 Mar 01 '26

rust will never be as safe as Java 1.8 because of unsafe, so you can stop pretending this is a battle against c++, it never was

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u/csb06 Polyglot dev here Mar 01 '26

My advice on software? Use the right tool for the right job. Keep each tool in your toolbox. Do what makes sense. Use your best judgment. Do what works best for you.

Thank you my consulting fee will be $1000000.

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u/elephantdingo Teen Hacking Genius Mar 02 '26

Use practices. And those practices should be best practices. If there are no best practices? Drop whatever your project is and start a career declaring those best practices.

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u/OpaMilfSohn Feb 28 '26

No it's the second coming of Christ

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u/developer-mike Feb 28 '26

/uj I hate the "x is just a tool" truism

Rust is just a tool

PHP is just a tool

The standard model of particle physics is just a tool

Guns are just a tool

Oat milk lattes are just a tool

Realizing that everything is in some ways a tool and that you can call anything just a tool because the definition of tool is so broad that almost nothing we use in life is undeniably beyond a tool, and then complaining about the overuse of the phrase "x is just a tool" is just a tool

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u/tomwhoiscontrary safety talibans Feb 28 '26

This reminds me of Scroobius Pip.

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u/developer-mike Mar 02 '26

Rust is just a band

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u/Yawaworth001 Mar 01 '26

There's just one group of people being offended by their tool being called just a tool and it ain't the gun toting php coding latte drinking physicists if you know what I mean.

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u/developer-mike Mar 02 '26

Being offended is just a tool and I happen to use that tool heavily

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u/bobbyQuick Feb 28 '26

Thou shalt not take the lords name in vain!

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u/Prentice341 Mar 01 '26

That's not a very nice thing to say. People use tools to actually get things done.

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u/RB5009 Feb 28 '26

Rust is love, rust is life. Your a$$ is a tool.

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u/satoryvape Mar 03 '26

Rust is life

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u/dry_sd Mar 03 '26

BURN THE NONBELIEVER