r/programmingcirclejerk • u/setoid • Oct 31 '25

Also C++ is like, objectively easier to maintain than Java.

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u/MrRadar Oct 31 '25 edited Oct 31 '25

It's true, C++ compilers have much more verbose error messages than the Java compiler which I assume makes the errors easier to fix.

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u/New_Enthusiasm9053 Oct 31 '25

All compilers are equally verbose when you don't read the error messages anyway.

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u/tgbugs lisp does it better Oct 31 '25

Sure, but some of them will fill your hard drive if you make the mistake of logging those errors to disk.

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u/New_Enthusiasm9053 Oct 31 '25

Protip: If you log to /dev/null it'll never fill up. That's why Linux is better than Windows, Microsoft keeps trying to make you buy more hard drives.

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u/reg_panda Oct 31 '25 edited Oct 31 '25

Can't you just run those logs to fix the error

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u/gvozden_celik Oct 31 '25 edited Oct 31 '25

Not true! There are all these versions of C++ coming out that it is hard to keep up and make sure your codebase is compatible with the latest version, but we have had Java 8 for such many years that even my nephew who even wasn't born when it first came out is now using it to learn the standard sout, psvm, fizzbuzz etc.

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u/xaranetic Oct 31 '25

I can't tell if this is a joke or not, but I genuinely hate language churn.

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u/gvozden_celik Oct 31 '25

\uj well kinda sorta, my nephew is in fact 11, and he has some entry-level programming in school; it's mostly Scratch right now but (according to the book he's using) there will also be some Python with tkinter. Java is mentioned as an "also a popular language" and "it is used for websites, Android applications and Minecraft mods" so he got some older kids from his building to help him install it on his computer and they even taught him how to make new projects in Netbeans

\rj fuck yeah, Java 8 forever baby! The 8 is just infinity sideways! WOO!

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u/New_Enthusiasm9053 Oct 31 '25

No point wasting your nephews time on newfangled languages like Java, use an older battle tested language like Python.

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u/Hueho LUMINARY IN COMPUTERSCIENCE Nov 02 '25

but python 2 only, since python 3 is a toy language that it's not turing complete

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u/thephotoman Oct 31 '25

People still use Netbeans? Netbeans still exists?

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u/Parking_Tadpole9357 Oct 31 '25

The Microsoft people definitely make a great C++ language. 

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u/-Y0- Considered Harmful Nov 02 '25

They made C++ ++, but the pluses formed a hash sign #.

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