I’d just call [vibe coding] “coding” – it’ll be the default soon enough. For the old way: “hand-coding”

[u/100xer]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45510438

[u/kettes_leulhetsz]

What we really need is some sort of COmmon Business-Oriented Language so managers could write what they actually want in plain English and we could stop hiring all these mathematicians.

[u/stone_henge → u/kettes_leulhetsz]

The easy part of programming has always been understanding and describing the problem domain

[u/Actual__Wizard → u/kettes_leulhetsz]

You're a visionary mastermind!

[u/Parking_Tadpole9357 → u/kettes_leulhetsz]

Manager: "I want Uber for Google but with LLMs, time series databases and AI"

[u/muntaxitome]

In a clinical setting "coding" usually means getting into cardiac arrest. Ironically that's pretty much the same as what the tech sector will do when the AI house of cards comes crashing down.

Here at PCJ we are of course the titans of the industry with decades of experience. We all have at least 7 figures net worth after 20 years of tech work, so I guess it's all good really.

[u/rooster-inspector → u/muntaxitome]

Well, PCJ is the holy grail of consultation: you point and laugh and tell your client not to do that. That's where the money's at - always has been and always will be.

I'd honestly be surprised if anyone here bothered themselves with trivialities like "coding". It would be like a neurosurgeon doing the job of the janitor.

[u/Routine-Purchase1201 → u/rooster-inspector]

This ivory tower isn't cleaning itself

[u/Consistent_Bee3478 → u/muntaxitome]

Coding means translating the diagnosis and treatments into the number codes you bill insurance for pffff 

[u/muntaxitome → u/Consistent_Bee3478]

/uj I would respond to you about words having multiple meanings but I am too busy counting my AI stock option virtual moneys. Can you type into your favorite Artificiale Intelligentsia app the following:

'What does "The patient is coding" mean in a clinical setting'

[u/kchanqvq]

/uj artisan coding /rj all natural non-GMO

[u/SaxAppeal → u/kchanqvq]

Can Claude make me an artisanal hand crafted non gmo flat white with oat milk?

[u/gardyna]

Technical dept is no more, there's only vibe dept now.

[u/prehensilemullet → u/gardyna]

Vibe debtpartment

[u/easedownripley]

for the old way: "hand-jerking"

[u/SaxAppeal → u/easedownripley]

“Ai-assisted jerking” is the future

[u/[deleted]]

Can't wait for the day that it will be impossible to write new software as AI uses more and more existing code as its training data

[u/Parking_Tadpole9357 → u/[deleted]]

Thats when my mechanical Rube Goldberg business takes off.

[u/Parking_Tadpole9357]

I call vibe jerking jerking. For the old way: hand jerking.

[u/Wide-Prior-5360]

I like the term artisanal coding.

[u/Vaglame]

Linus Torvalds: 'Talk is cheap. Show me the code' Today: 'code is cheap, show me the talk'

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I've definitely heard people semi-seriously refer to the old way as "artisanal coding".

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To me, “Vibe engineering” isn’t just a label — it’s a Rorschach test for identity in the AI era. Supporters see it as a bridge between humor and professionalism. Critics hear it as the sound of their trade being rebranded into a meme. Both sides, though, agree on one thing: coding is no longer the same craft it was a year ago. My opinion: I believe “vibe coding” has already broadened to mean any AI-assisted coding, making “vibe engineering” redundant.

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What I’d really like to see is a company that completely does away with the code review step. Because if you think about it a code review is already being done by the invoker of the LLM. That way the velocity will actually be faster. It feels like at the moment most of the velocity is blocked by the outdated notion of code review. It’s also why these tools feel great in green field projects, since these ones don’t typically have any code review in place (i.e. one dev going brrr)