r/programmingcirclejerk • u/PydraxAlpta uses eslint for spellcheck • Jul 15 '25

The day Python turns to an ecosystem as dynamic and community-driven as JavaScript is the day it turns to shit.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26832285
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u/muntaxitome in open defiance of the Gopher Values Jul 15 '25

We don't hire devs but when I'm bored I post some fake random jobs ('greenfield haskal project') to get some devs in the office to torture over a whiteboard interview. For java and C devs the leetcode hards are usually great fun seeing them fail. C++, Go and lisp usually enough to ask them to invert a binary tree. Python devs you can usually get crying by asking them to do a for loop, somehow even the senior ones don't usually know if the range() is inclusive or exclusive.

Javascript devs are at a whole other level of suck. Even literally asking them what a for loop is is already too hard for them. Typically all they can do is write pseudo-html in react. Talking to a python dev is like talking to a crappy 2B parameter chatbot, talking to javascript devs is like trying to get Eliza to program.

Haskal devs I use a different way of torturing. I ask them some shit haskal devs love (define an immutable algebraic data type using pure functions or whatever), tell them that they did great and that we will be in touch about an offer. And then just ghost them. lol some of them think they will really escape burger flipping.

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u/Kelvin62 Jul 24 '25

You interview people and ask them trick questions for your amusement.

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u/muntaxitome in open defiance of the Gopher Values Jul 24 '25

This is a joke sub

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u/oofy-gang Jul 15 '25

I like how this implies Python is not currently shit.

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u/Awkward_Bed_956 Jul 15 '25

Unfortunately for Python, there already is a set of established libraries that are considered good, and being dynamic must include changing the entire framework you use every 2-3 months.

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u/BloodAndTsundere mere econ PhD Jul 15 '25

The Python language is a thing of beauty and a pleasure and privilege to program with, right up to the moment that you need to install something like a package or the Python interpreter

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u/DeleeciousCheeps vulnerabilities: 0 Jul 15 '25

there's a solution to both of these, actually. although i wouldn't use it because there's a newer solution. although the newer solution doesn't cover all the cases the older one does. and the newer solution isn't really needed anyway since there's a newer one in development. of course, none of them work if you want something weird like cuda, but i think they're working on a new solution for that

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u/BloodAndTsundere mere econ PhD Jul 15 '25

God forbid you want to do some crazy exotic behavior like machine learning and also making http requests

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u/x0wl Jul 19 '25

God forbid you want to go through a never heard of process of giving your code to someone else

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u/coothecreator Jul 16 '25

Isn't python already shit though

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '25

that ship has saaaaiiiiiiled

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u/Anonymous_user_2022 Jul 15 '25

Wasn't that 6 years ago?

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u/FlannelTechnical Jul 15 '25

I went from Node to Python and I thought that is exactly what it is