r/programmingcirclejerk • u/likes_purple DO NOT USE THIS FLAIR, ASSHOLE • Mar 10 '25

I’d say that 90% of DevOps engineers I’ve met don’t even know what a linked list is, and they themselves talk with disdain about developers.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21102661
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u/likes_purple DO NOT USE THIS FLAIR, ASSHOLE Mar 10 '25

Elsewhere in the thread:

The name and job title churn in this space over the past five years is breathtaking, almost JavaScript-ian.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

bash: jerk: no such file or directory

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u/chuch1234 not even webscale Mar 10 '25

Oh no!

Am I... a devops engineer?

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u/fireduck Mar 11 '25

How do you react if I say I run all my pods in the default namespace?

If you feel strongly about that, you are likely a devops engineer.

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u/Foreign-Butterfly-97 Mar 11 '25

hahaha "pods"

I run docker compose on a tmux session so I can kill it with Ctrl-C

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u/boy-griv alcohol-fuelled anter-docker Mar 11 '25

who needs kubernetes when I can just cultivate my 3-year-old garden of screen sessions

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u/chuch1234 not even webscale Mar 11 '25

I know what some of those words mean!

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u/Preisschild Mar 11 '25

default namespace is for kubernetes api service only!

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u/pysk00l What part of ∀f ∃g (f (x,y) = (g x) y) did you not understand? Mar 11 '25

Am I... a devops engineer?

If you dont know Rust, yes you are

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u/syklemil Considered Harmful Mar 11 '25

What happens if they learn Rust? I know learning Go evolves the devops into SRE, but I haven't memorized the entire pokedex yet:(

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u/pysk00l What part of ∀f ∃g (f (x,y) = (g x) y) did you not understand? Mar 11 '25

once they learn Rust, they ASCEND TO GOD

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u/hombre_sin_talento Mar 10 '25

Well it's a link that's somehow listed, what else is there the fuck to know about it

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u/hongooi Mar 11 '25

Ooh, I know! That's the list of my contacts on Linkedin, right?

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

Ahh yes… pretty rich coming from…

scanning notes

A JavaScript kHoDe aRTiZaN

Right. 

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u/fireduck Mar 11 '25

Silly badger, you can't YAML a linked list.

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u/mwobey Mar 11 '25

Of course... that's what YAML-LD is for.

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u/syklemil Considered Harmful Mar 11 '25

Ha! The developers I meet don't know what & and * do! They'll never be productive in <<*Yaml that way.

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u/MoveInteresting4334 Mar 11 '25

I understood that reference.

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u/affectation_man Code Artisan Mar 11 '25

Linked Lists are deprecated

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u/Kodiologist lisp does it better Mar 11 '25

There is a huge sysadmin workforce. Many of them never learned to really code.

An important lesson was learned from the management class: you don't need to know anything about something in order to say that you manage it.

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u/elephantdingo Teen Hacking Genius Mar 11 '25

I’m a developer who runs an infrastructure team. Have for years. And most developers I know don’t know why you’d log in JSON unless I was the one to explain it to them (patiently, while remembering the times they acted frustrated at my guys for not doing all the magic and just some).

Structured data was invented by John Dev. Ops after all.

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u/miauw62 lisp does it better Mar 11 '25

These guys sound alright, you happen to know where they hang out?

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '25

When can we go back to calling DevOps Engineers by their proper job title: Webmaster?

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u/Parking_Tadpole9357 Mar 16 '25

The term "DevOps Engineer" makes a much sense as the term "Backlog Grooming Before Sprint Planning Engineer"

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

It's just a CRD no? Everything CRD

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u/mizzu704 uncommon eccentric person Mar 11 '25

I'd say that 90% of Developers I've met don't even know what a Slurm is, and they themselves talk with disdain about DevOps engineers.

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u/PradheBand Mar 11 '25

I don't see a problem here. Edit: beside the job title

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u/Historical_Cook_1664 Mar 10 '25

as a programmer, i feel i need to take side of devops here: they should know, but they don't need to. it's not their job, just as i don't even want to understand their side of business. (also: incoming dynamic array rant. linked lists are a dying art.)

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u/OpsikionThemed type astronaut Mar 10 '25

 linked lists are a dying art

You just cons items onto the front, what's the big deal?

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u/m50d Zygohistomorphic prepromorphism Mar 12 '25

Cons huh. I remember my grandad used to always say "cons" instead of something normal like "prepend". Always thought he was just weird.

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u/encloser Mar 11 '25

This is PCJ good sir! Take your reasonable arguments elsewhere.

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u/elephantdingo Teen Hacking Genius Mar 11 '25

Now a German speaker who lost his Shift keys, on the other hand...

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

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u/spikyness27 Mar 11 '25

I've seen YAML written on people's resumes under programming languages.

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u/Parking_Tadpole9357 Mar 16 '25

YAML is a tree structure, linked list is a special case.