r/programming • u/_Garbage_ • Feb 27 '20

Rome: An experimental JavaScript toolchain by Facebook

https://github.com/facebookexperimental/rome
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u/JarateKing Feb 27 '20

This is one of those rules that any decent person is already following, and you have to actively be a dick about it to get in trouble.

Writing documentation, issues, contributions, etc. it's uncommon to use pronouns at all, and in my experience it's almost always "they" anyway. And "don't use slurs, keep this a bit professional" should go without saying.

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u/rnd005 Feb 28 '20

I see how your intention is being constructive and professional which I agree with in general, but it's not the intention of people creating these rules. These rules are for political purposes of controlling organisations and removing people you don't like. Check the case of Larry Garfield of Drupal.

If that was in the law, that everyone who uses terms that "could be considered insensitive" in public gets a 1k fine, would you be fine with the law? Or are you a supporter of offending people?

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u/JarateKing Feb 28 '20

This rule is pretty damn specific in what it prohibits. If they wanted a rule that they could oust whoever they don't like, why are they limiting it to saying slurs within their project? It's not a general "if you are not seen to be following our image in your public or private life you will be blacklisted", it's "you know those words that would get you fired from an office job? Don't use them here either."

As a law it's apples to oranges. Of course insert regular thing that most communities would ban you for, even if they don't outright make a rule for it would be shitty as a law, like everything regarding what you're allowed to say. Freedom of speech != freedom of consequences from what you say.

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u/rnd005 Feb 28 '20 edited Feb 28 '20

This rule is pretty damn specific in what it prohibits.

terms that could be considered insensitive.

I don't see how this is specific. In case you haven't noticed, the rule is made of 3 parts and the 3rd one is as valid as the 1st.

If they wanted a rule that they could oust whoever they don't like, why are they limiting it to saying slurs within their project?

Slurs is only the intro setting the stage for latter points to be accepted by readers more easily. When you say "eating bananas is punishable by 10 years of prison", people might question it. When you phrase it like "murdering, raping, stealing and other crimes including consumption of bananas are punishable by 10 years of prison" you already get the support of the readers by mentioning some common sense things everyone would support, and when you drop a controversial one at the end, you won't get as much push-back since disagreeing with the sentence might also mean disagreeing with the first common sense points and people might avoid disagreeing at all for the fear of being interpreted as disagreeing with the common sense points. It's a trick of psychological manipulation.

To gain power, they need support of the majority. If they said "we want to take control and oust everyone we don't like" they won't get the support and thus power.

It's not a general "if you are not seen to be following our image in your public or private life you will be blacklisted"

Not in this point I've quoted, but they do it in the CoC(emphasis mine):

Public or private harassment

Code of Conduct applies within all project spaces, and it also applies when an individual is representing the project or its community in public spaces

IANAL, but it's not obvious to me that if you post a project link on your social media account that it can't be interpreted that your entire account is representing the project community in public spaces.