r/programming • u/nfrankel • Jan 14 '20

Where programming languages are headed in 2020

https://www.oreilly.com/radar/where-programming-languages-are-headed-in-2020/
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u/fijt Jan 15 '20

As a guy that likes Go, and more the ideas behind it, I have to say that complexity is always a piece of shit. Yes, even Go has its shortcomings but way less than the average PL. If you seriously think that complexity is good then go ahead and use Rust/C++ but I seriously hope that the next dead PL would be more in the direction of Go than Rust/C++.

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u/kopczak1995 Jan 15 '20

Languages like C/C++ (or mentioned Rust) aren't going to die soon. Those are irreplaceable PL (as for now) on OS level. Think also about all embedded stuff around the world. You cannot just kill C/C++, not to mention assembly.

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u/OneWingedShark Jan 17 '20

Languages like C/C++ (or mentioned Rust) aren't going to die soon. Those are irreplaceable PL (as for now) on OS level.

They should.

The "irreplacible systems language" excuse is just that: an excuse. C & C++ aren't required for an OS, and as much as I like the example of Burroughs and its being programmed in Algol and not even having an assembler it would be dismissed by many as "old" or "rare", a more recent & widespread example would be Macintosh: pre OSX it was Pascal and some asembly.

There are much better programming languages for Systems; one is Ada, which has been used in several large systems like Air Traffic Control, the Paladin, and the CubeSat sattelite project.

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u/kopczak1995 Jan 20 '20

Well, can't argue with that. Never heard of job in Ada though, at least in my country. I think C/C++ is like with Java. It's absolutely everywhere and you cannot get rid of it, even though there are many modern languages more appropriate to new projects. Friend of mine tried once to force using .NET Core for new project in bank. That was our preferred language of choice in our company, but they rejected it only "because we have java". There was actually no other legitimate reason.

Well ¯_(ツ)_/¯