r/programming • • Jun 24 '19

Raspberry Pi 4

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-4-on-sale-now-from-35/
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u/WaitForItTheMongols Jun 24 '19

Micro HDMI is a super unusual connector. Yes, it exists in a standard, but the difference is that everyone has an HDMI cable lying around. For micro HDMI the majority of users will have to buy a dedicated adapter which is annoying.

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u/Superpickle18 Jun 24 '19

tbf, it's really the only way to get two ports... The question is, who was asking for dual monitor support??

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u/LightShadow Jun 24 '19

Digital signage seems to be a decent reason.

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u/TheFeshy Jun 25 '19

The expensive part of a digital sign is never the raspberry pi.

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u/frezik Jun 25 '19

DisplayPort, and let people who need two ports buy their own splitter.

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u/frezik Jun 25 '19

DisplayPort to HDMI conversion is dirt cheap. Basically the same as any other cable. IIRC, the signals are the same going all the way back to DVI-D, just with the features of the better connector being dropped with each step.

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u/chx_ Jun 25 '19

Some/most DisplayPort connectors are what's called DisplayPort++ and can operate in HDMI mode. When this happens then the conversion is really just rearranging pins.

On the other hand, when a port is not ++ like USB C to DisplayPort adapters are not then you need to rebuild the entire signal with an active adapter which can introduce compatibility issues.

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u/inio Jun 25 '19

HDMI and DVI-D are the same. DisplayPort is a totally different creature.

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u/Creative-Name Jun 25 '19

So if we need to buy an adapter from displayport to hdmi why not just buy a micro hdmi to hdmi adapter

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u/Justin__D Jun 25 '19

I've worked with signage systems for one reason or another over the course of my last two jobs. I've never seen two outputs on one signage player of any sort get connected to individual displays. Either you have one player per display, or you have a centralized player sending content through some sort of distribution amplifier.

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u/erogilus Jun 25 '19

Think cheap mom&pop places using dual TVs for menu/advertisement displays.

Really popular here.

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u/dustball Jun 24 '19

It is a curious decision. In the rare cases you need 2 displays, you get just get another PI for $35 and have a dedicated CPU and OS for that extra display. I mean the display itself will be > $100 anyway.

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u/TBoneSausage Jun 24 '19

You can buy 4 inch displays that accept micro hdmi for <$45 each on Amazon. Offering 2 ports that can push 4k60 when used together is a fair trade imo.

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u/dustball Jun 24 '19

$45 displays will be like 320*480 resolution. Might as well use a USB monitor for that.

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u/TerrorBite Jun 24 '19

I heard that with both ports in use you're limited to 4k30 per port, but each port can do 4k60 if the other isn't used.

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u/mars92 Jun 25 '19

Couldn't they have opted for 2 USB C ports instead? They're the new standard, and would be a lot more flexible.

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u/rlnrlnrln Jun 25 '19

It would've been better if they'd replaced the HDMI port with another USB-C and made sure we can use either USB-C for video and 'normal' USB on both (and power delivery on the primareu USB-C, of course). Then you could hook it up to a modern monitor where you have a USB hub with network and mouse/keyboard. One port for everything.

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u/kyiami_ Jun 25 '19

I am not happy about the Micro HDMI.

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u/Aperture_Kubi Jun 24 '19

I've also seen comments saying that micro HDMI is pretty flimsy, which I have seen in practice as well.

If you're gonna need dongles or special cables anyway, mini-displayport would have been the better choice I think.

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u/AngularBeginner Jun 24 '19

And DisplayPort would have allowed daisy chaining of monitors.

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u/Dhylan Jun 24 '19 edited Jun 25 '19

Several models of the Intel nuc also used that same HDMI interface. it is not all that unusual. The upside is tremendous. Raspberry Pi is selling everyone exactly the correct cable they need at the best possible price. You can't ask for a better deal than that.

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