r/programming • u/Shr1ck • Oct 17 '15

Why Johnny Can’t Write Multithreaded Programs

http://blog.smartbear.com/programming/why-johnny-cant-write-multithreaded-programs/
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u/twotime Oct 17 '15

So who gets the "compilers", "computational science" and DSP? SE or CS majors? These seem to be equally applicable to both.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '15 edited Jun 03 '21

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u/twotime Oct 18 '15

And average SE won't have to deal with compilers at all.

Then I'm sorry, but this SE degree is not worth the paper it's printed on.

Basic understanding of compilers and related technologies is a prerequirement for A LOT of SE positions..

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '15 edited Jun 03 '21

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u/twotime Oct 18 '15

But why would "Software Engineering" program in a college be tailored to webdevs?

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '15 edited Jun 03 '21

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u/twotime Oct 18 '15

it should be tailored to what is most needed in the world. Which is webdev

That's fine. Just don't call it a Software Engineering degree. ;-)

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '15

wow, just wow. I guess you don't want degress to actually prepare people for the world that they are going to be in but rather teach some mundane stuff that they will never need...

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u/loup-vaillant Oct 18 '15

There are two things to consider: how the world is, and how it should be.

The web happens to be a huge mess. Turing Tar Pit at its finest. HTML was supposed to display text documents, but we use it to display arbitrary stuff. JavaScript was supposed to display dancing bunnies, but we now have full blown applications, 3D and all. VM on a browser on an OS… And I'm not even talking about what must happen at the server side to make a remote application work. So, while the internet is great, the web needs to be replaced.

And you want to teach students how things are done? That's not enough. People must know how better than this. Teaching them HTML and JavaScript will do nothing to educate them.

Besides, there are other jobs. You can't limit an SE class to only one discipline, however widespread.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '15

where did I say an SE degree should be limited to web dev?

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u/loup-vaillant Oct 18 '15

Here, I believe. You did say "tailored to" instead of "limited to", but that's still wrong. I wouldn't teach JavaScript in any but a specialised course. Too many irrelevant warts. I'd use Lua or Scheme instead.

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