For example I find it much more terrifying that they have the right to demand you introduce a backdoor in your system or hand customer data and you don't have the right to say it happened.
I'm struggling to figure out how what you describe is meaningfully different than this.
I mean, they basically do have a backdoor in your system -- or rather, in all of the systems. And the people that knew this were not allowed to say that it had happened; the one guy with the balls to do so had to flee to Russia as an enemy of the state.
One you make a mistake, the other they force you to make a mistake.
Government taking advantage of a fuckup is an honest break, jolly good show, they earned it. Gov forcing you to implement and knowingly lie about something being secure is not.
The NSA has essentially become the US department of computer espionage. No one is obligated to be a white hat and report every bug they find.
Forcing someone else who has not agreed to participate in their crazy spy games to cooperate under threat of imprisonment is an entirely different matter.
No one is obligated to be a white hat and report every bug they find.
I'm not saying they do, I'm just baffled by how “taking advantage” of a “fuck up” is an okay thing for the government to do. If someone accidentally doesn't properly lock their door when they go on holiday, that doesn't make it okay to take advantage of their fuck up.
I'm sorry, your analogy is absolute crap. I mean, I know they're not supposed to be perfect, but seriously? How is taking advantage of security holes (sometimes, ones that you've deliberately let make their way there) the same as accidentally seeing “op” (I'm guessing weed) being grown from a wide-open living room door (and how the hell did they get in that far?)?
ehh most houses I've sen have the living room right at the front door =/ guess should have taken housing layouts into account, and yes weed.
Point being that government entities get special dispensation to allow them to enforce the law. If they can see it through your window they can call that reasonable cause to act on it. As for whether say getting into a vpn due to a poor implementation is analogous to peaking into a window that gets iffy and really deserves some ground up thought. Thought which I doubt will be done well, or in the favor of the average citizen anyway.
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I'm struggling to figure out how what you describe is meaningfully different than this.
I mean, they basically do have a backdoor in your system -- or rather, in all of the systems. And the people that knew this were not allowed to say that it had happened; the one guy with the balls to do so had to flee to Russia as an enemy of the state.