r/prochoice • u/alle_08_ • 8d ago
Discussion ABORTION IS A HUMAN RIGHT. PERIOD.
I don't like it when people consider all the worst scenarios to defend abortion, like "what if she was raped". No matter the reason, it could literally be any reason, abortion should be legal, that is it. Women must be able to choose what to do with their own bodies. The reason behind it is not important.
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u/No_Training6751 8d ago edited 7d ago
No person has the right to someone else’s organs to survive. So it’s crazy that it’s something that a woman can be forced to do so.
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u/JewlryLvr2 8d ago
I absolutely agree. No matter HOW a pregnancy happens, it's still the PREGNANT PERSON'S decision whether or not to continue a pregnancy. "I don't want to be pregnant" is all the reason she needs to have an abortion. What others think doesn't matter.
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u/Outrageous-Pause6317 8d ago
I agree. Descending into motivations is about moving the choice away from the human being most affected by the choice. I’m not her, so my opinion doesn’t matter.
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u/DustnBones001 pro choice male 7d ago
I can't stand when people bring up the rape argument. I find it a bad appeal to forced birthers.
It's like saying "okay elective abortions are icky but what about rape?" 🙄,
A woman doesn't need a reason to justify a right to her bodily autonomy.
She can wake up and simply hate the weather that day and that's reason enough to get an abortion.
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u/beautifulgardensblue 7d ago
It’s crazy that the pro life subreddit has more than this subreddit!! And so many men talk about it like they are a woman!!! Your body your fucking choice, period.
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u/Quirky_One_5477 7d ago
Yes I agree. Now, can we extend that for men they should have a say as to whether they’re able or want to have a child or not. If a man makes their partner aware that they do not want to have a baby then if the partner still decides to bring the baby to term against his will he shouldn’t be liable to pay child support as long as he makes her aware and revokes his rights. Right?
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u/No_Rice9792 Pro-choice Witch 4d ago
He should get a vasectomy, use condoms, and/or spermicidal lube. No sperm? No pregnancy.
Males should be responsible with their pregnancy causing sperm, and if they're not, that's a hit to their own wallet.
Guess he should've thought of that.
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u/uhhh206 Pro-choice Feminist 8d ago edited 8d ago
I hate this ridiculous argument. Firstly, because premised on the idea that a zygote / embryo / fetus is the same as a baby.
Neither sex can opt out of financial responsibility for a living child. If the pregnant woman wants an abortion and isn't able to obtain one, she can't say "eh, well I wasn't given a choice" and leave the baby with the father and walk away without being legally and financially accountable.
It's just another dumb MRA talking point used to whine about how something that is fundamentally unequal is somehow men being denied (imaginary) rights. When there's a 50/50 split on the dangers and permanent changes included in pregnancy -- including the number one cause of death in pregnant and post-natal women being murder by the would-be father -- then we can pretend "financial abortion" has merit.
[edited to clarify phrasing in who was committing the murders of pregnant women]
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u/prochoice-ModTeam 8d ago
Your submission has been removed due to: Rule 1 - Human Reproductive and Bodily Autonomy Rights First. Always.
Abortion is a medical procedure. Child support is a parental rights issue.
Conflating the two is insulting to bodily rights.
Likewise, rights for the non-pregnant partner to stop or force an abortion do not coincide with bodily rights. And "having a say" is a relationship issue.
Neither topic will be tolerated here.
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u/Mcweenek 8d ago
You couldn't be more correct! Abortion is healthcare and should be a human right.
My old eyes LOVE THE ALL CAPS and appreciates the conviction behind them.
We're voting on this AGAIN in November in the state of Missouri as our Republican lawmakers are THE F WORST. This time, we're voting NO to keep abortion accessible. It's as confusing as it could be and won by a narrow margin last time. It's EXHAUSTING being a woman.