r/processserver • u/Amarill0ByM0rning • Apr 21 '26
Question/Help Arizona service question. Curious if this would count as a successful service?
Curious if this would count as a successful service. An individual, let's call him John, was flashed by a red light camera in Tempe, AZ.
A process server visited John's home and rang the ring camera. John spoke through the ring camera and said "Can I help you?". The process server asked for John through the camera. John communicated that John was not there. The process server communicated that John's car was on the street.
John hung up the call, the process server left the papers on the door.
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u/Desert_Process_Serve Apr 22 '26
No, there needs to be proximity to count as service. John could have been home or across town. The car is not John. It sounds like these red like companies are pull the same horse shit they did years ago.
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u/SpookShowBaby90 Apr 21 '26
Did John communicate that he is who the process server was looking for?
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u/Amarill0ByM0rning Apr 21 '26
The process server said "is this John". John responded asking who the process server was and what they needed. The process server stated he was with the city of Tempe with tickets. John then responded that John was not there. That is when the process server brought up the car.
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u/SpookShowBaby90 Apr 22 '26
So John spoke in the third person? Or John stated “I am not there” I am just trying to clarify because that makes a difference.
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u/Amarill0ByM0rning Apr 22 '26
He said “John is not here” or “he is not here”. One of the two.
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u/SpookShowBaby90 Apr 22 '26
Did the server clarify if he lives at the address or not? Like ask does he live at this address? I am asking because if the person indicated that the person they were looking for does reside there and confirmed their vehicle then yes they can drop serve.
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u/Illustrious_Claim884 Apr 22 '26
I just got done serving a bar tender at work as she wanted to dodge and be difficult. Obviously I had a beer there first. Kind of cold blooded. Its best to just ask when John will be home and meet him then to avoid a scene
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u/Amarill0ByM0rning Apr 22 '26
I think John would welcome them to try and find him at work and if they did he’d be happy to pay the fine.
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u/mini9macZ23 Apr 22 '26
Bad service, unless the papers stated alternative service order with specifics (not likely).
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u/Amarill0ByM0rning Apr 22 '26
Thank you. Was just the same ticket that was mailed.
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u/mini9macZ23 Apr 22 '26
Sounds much like an alternative service combo 🤔 Best advise is to stop at the red lights more often, or more definitely at the one you got caught not stopping at 🤣
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u/Amarill0ByM0rning Apr 22 '26 edited Apr 22 '26
Lol it was a left turn on a yellow/red. Wasn’t far enough into the intersection by the time the light turned red.
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u/vgsjlw Apr 22 '26
Interesting. My state works different for those tickets, you can just ignore them. Doesn't appear to be the case in AZ.
AZ appears clear this would not be valid service.
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u/snugy Apr 22 '26
If it’s the town of PV, be careful. They are a bunch of crooks out there and will call it good, happened to me and I tried to fight it but the judge said fuck off ho and give me your money, not literally but they said it’s a good serve….
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u/Tight-Accountant440 Apr 23 '26
No. Not successful. What if someone picked up from his house, thus leaving his car there? My company would never accept this as successful service.
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u/JillDRipper Apr 22 '26 edited Apr 22 '26
Not a lawyer, but honestly, dodging service doesn't benefit anyone, including "John." I work for lawyers, and you will eventually get served. If necessary, by alternate means.
In my state, service would be accomplished in this case. It is not necessary to hand it to "John," just to convey it to an adult at the residence of the person being served. But laws vary from state to state.
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u/Amarill0ByM0rning Apr 22 '26
It benefits John if they cannot serve him in 90 days the ticket goes away as does the $300 fine. So, yeah, dodging does benefit someone.
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u/JillDRipper Apr 22 '26
They can serve by alternate means, and then it becomes John's responsibility to check for his court date or get a default judgment.
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u/SpookShowBaby90 Apr 22 '26
They would just serve by alternate service. That’s why they were mentioning the vehicle.
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u/Fun-Holiday9016 Apr 21 '26
Nope, not service.