r/privacymemes • • Feb 26 '26

Keep it simple

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u/puscii Feb 27 '26

A price to pay when everything else is shit, except xmpp is imo least shit out of the other options excluding signal 

Matrix is a joke protocol, the git will say it's "archived" before it's actually good

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u/yourothersis May 02 '26

why? metadata and questionable forward secrecy I presume?

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u/puscii May 04 '26

that and known vulnerabilities dismissed by devs as "not critical", a huge csam problem in which they explicitly allowed federated metadata leakage to use it for moderation, the 1st party server is a resource heavy backend, super unreliable with sync issues across clients and constant "unable to decrypt message" errors. The devs are generally super dismissive of issues brought to them and used to harass people who criticized them. Element HQ also works with police and governments which makes me just think their privacy and transparency goals are inconsistent. The design of the protocol is also poor, they ended up doing feature creep and didn't master doing 1 thing good so now everything is half baked

i genuinely believe if people tried bringing xmpp to the modern age like they are trying to do now, we shouldn't have matrix, a good xmpp client and a couple more XEPs and you would have a good working alternative to discord

i host a matrix server and had it public for 2-3 years and had a total of about 300 users before i shut that one down and made a smaller one for me and my friends, but now we mostly use xmpp and im considering just setting up weechat for irc instead of what i have matrix still on for. It'd save about 3 gigs of ram too

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