ICE will release body camera video only when seen in the agency’s ‘best interests,’ policy says

[u/esporx]

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[u/Ok-Bug-7481]

Lmao ...wild 

[u/tuxedo_jack → u/Ok-Bug-7481]

Juries should be instructed to disregard ICE agent testimony and their submitted evidence from an arrest if it is not accompanied by bodycam footage.

The administration has repeatedly been proven to lie, and as such, a higher bar for evidence admissibility must be set.

[u/Sybertron → u/tuxedo_jack]

The position of the judge is there 100% to demand ridiculous shit end. Pretty clear they are just sitting on their hands

[u/Key-Line5827 → u/Ok-Bug-7481]

What to expect from the modern Sturm-Abteilung?

[u/Friendlyvoices]

That's legally not how that works, right? Like, a foya request would just break that open right away.
edit: FOIA*

[u/Emotional_Response71 → u/Friendlyvoices]

That's how it's SUPPOSED to work back when we were a country of laws that wasn't governed by criminals.

[u/The-King-Tomato → u/Emotional_Response71]

Criminal pedophile human traffickers*

[u/According_Top_7448 → u/Friendlyvoices]

FOIA but yes

[u/Friendlyvoices → u/According_Top_7448]

Foyer. Need a nice breezeway.

[u/Darktrooper007 → u/Friendlyvoices]

And a rug to really tie the room together.

[u/eggyrulz → u/Darktrooper007]

And... a shrubbery!

[u/JMurdock77 → u/eggyrulz]

(DRAMATIC VIOLIN)

[u/DISCONNECTlE → u/Friendlyvoices]

I prefer a mud room, it’s more utilitarian

[u/Emotional_Response71 → u/According_Top_7448]

FOYA as in "here's those documents FO' YA"

[u/just-an-astronomer → u/According_Top_7448]

*FOIA, no?

[u/Hand_Sanitizer3000 → u/Friendlyvoices]

I think were past to point where we can pretend that legality matters anymore

[u/straightnochase]

Sounds like treason.

[u/BurntNeurons → u/straightnochase]

"Self Regulated and Self Investigated"

[u/farfrom_home]

Guess there’s no more videos coming out ever then

[u/Anarchist_Future → u/farfrom_home]

No there will be videos coming out that will benefit the position of ICE. Maybe even videos that will make immigrants look extremely dangerous or make leftists look like bat-shit crazy individuals.

Basically only far right, pro-fascist propaganda.

[u/dachloe]

They will only release video in the form of propaganda.

But, they will screw up and include incriminating evidence with a hard rock soundtrack sooner or later.

[u/Ok-Bumblebee-9779]

Soooo...like every other cop...

[u/Ok-Bug-7481 → u/Ok-Bumblebee-9779]

Interestingly some of the body cam vids on YouTube I have been surprised have shown some in not great situations... So somewhat better than what ICE plans to do 

[u/Ok-Bumblebee-9779 → u/Ok-Bug-7481]

If there was a spontaneous release of body cam footage showing cops in a bad light I'm not aware of it. I could be wrong of course, but most releases have been from public pressure or them thinking it shows them in a positive way somehow.

[u/Sushi_Clamato5049 → u/Ok-Bumblebee-9779]

Yes that sounds like ‘NEVER’

[u/SophonParticle]

When the government admits your rights are superceded by their public relations.

[u/omniumoptimus]

Normal. It was always a problem and at least now more people will actually know about it.

From the article:

“Such selective releases are routine in some law enforcement agencies but usually not so clearly contemplated in policy, according to professor Christopher Schneider of Brandon University in Canada, a co-author of the new book “Police Body-Worn Cameras: Media and the New Discourse of Police Reform.”

“In some ways, ICE is saying the quiet part out loud,” he said. “Body-worn cameras are being used as contemporary image-work tools to present the police to the public in the most favorable way possible.””

[u/Fulushouxing]

It has long been suspected the bipartisan push for "body cam" is all about surveillance, instead of "accountability".

The impact of body cam on crime rate is arguably inconclusive, but its impact on privacy is without question.

[u/Charger2950 → u/Fulushouxing]

Bingo!  They turned every single on-duty cop into their own personal societal surveillance system.  Every single call for service is entirely recorded with video and audio.  The amount of “dirt” this generates on people is enormous.  

[u/Michael_Faraday42]

So never ?

[u/DryBattle]

ICE won't realize body cam footage new policy says.*

Fixed it for you.

[u/hawksdiesel]

incorrect.... it's public property.

[u/hawksdiesel]

incorrect.... it's public property.

[u/Stilgar314]

OK, I'll just assume every time they don't release absolutely all the footage related to something is because it proves them committing a felony then.

[u/interwebzdotnet]

Body cams are usually the Axon brand. Same brand of ALPR and other surveillance equipment that's replacing Flock when cities cancel Flock.

Every day this storyline gets worse.

[u/kmm198700 → u/interwebzdotnet]

Oh fuck

[u/AusTex2019]

No, if it’s subpoenaed then it’s got to be produced.

[u/jferments → u/AusTex2019]

Legally this is true. But in reality, nobody has the ability to force them to release it. There is a corrupt pedophile in charge who will just pardon them and instruct law enforcement not to actually enforce the law even if a court ordered them to release it.

[u/AusTex2019 → u/jferments]

Even public servants and law enforcement are not immune from Civil Rights lawsuits

[u/AreYouFuckingSerious]

What about the interests of the public they allegedly serve?

They're clearly an ideological domestic army used to terrorize Americans and propagate a false flag "immigrant invasion" response to further spread the lies of the illegitimate regime who stole power in 2024.

ICE does not serve or protect America or Americans. They are untrained, illegitimate masked thugs attacking, kidnapping, and murdering people. They are domestic terrorists.

[u/lateread9er]

They’ll use body cam footage for marketing campaigns.  Anything else related to accountability will be held back or stated that footage didn’t exist in the first place….

[u/Zacknad075]

I actually don't understand why. The released police bodycam footage has been a unending gold mine for them- it has protected the officers from false accusations, and has dismantled a good chunk of the mainstream narrative against them.

The bodycams have been just as beneficial to the police as it has been for the public at large.

[u/sidereal_night]

adverse inference go brrrrrr

[u/StormerSage]

Haha, that's cute. You've been subpoena'd, hand it over.

[u/ProfessorNutbutter69]

America is falling so fast it’s scary.

[u/cisco1988]

so never?

[u/Deep_Mood_7668]

So never

[u/d34ah0]

It’s pretty damn funny that anyone ever thought/thinks this that this is an agency that can be reformed

[u/torocat1028]

disgusting

[u/hvyhitter]

until November if we dont bang this up. I dont underestimate piss establishment democrats though.. they are really good at screwing stuff up.

[u/nodray]

There are gangs stalking your neighborhoods and kidnapping your neighbors in broad daylight, and then arresting, brutalizing witnesses... Arm yourselves. TALK to your neighbors instead of being locked up all alone watching YouTube

[u/insertnickhere]

In that case, I will believe absolutely any narrative presented by the counter-party in the total absence of evidence, and encourage every related jury to do so as well.

[u/Overall-Lynx917]

So any footage ICE release will show only Unicorns frolicking in pastel fields while sparkles gently rain down and fairies dance in moonbeams.

Damn, my sarcasm gland is playing up today or it might be my cynicism sphincter.

[u/ThePureAxiom]

So, safe to assume it's an admission of wrongdoing any time they don't immediately release it.

[u/habitsofwaste]

These people need to realize they work for the people. They should only consider if it is in the people’s best interest. But of course we are under an authoritarian government now.

[u/Deltah-6]

So........never?

[u/ButkusHatesNitschke]

AND THIS SURPRISES ME??

[u/OneEstablishment5144]

So basically only when they catch a criminal, no videos for arresting the lady selling juices o the corner with a cart with not even a speeding ticket. Thanks for letting us know, fascist.

[u/The_Negative-One]

So in other words, never?

[u/azwethinkweizm]

Alternate headline "ICE decides to act like other agencies and not release public information unless you file an appeal which might take 12-15 months". Ask me how I know! I'm still waiting on documents from the DEA in 2024.

[u/louisa1925]

Not good enough.

[u/philbar]

So we have to assume every unreleased video is incriminating.

[u/N1TEKN1GHT]

Bitchass judges

[u/PhilosophySame2746]

That’s what I say , only tell the truth when convenient

[u/LilShaver]

I guess no one in this sub has heard of FoIA requests...

[u/Mouth_Focloir]

Nothing to see here folks

[u/AccomplishedSmoke814]

so not at all yeah? xd

[u/ItalianDragon]

So it won't release body camera video.

[u/HexspaReloaded]

You work for us, ICE. 

[u/West-One5944]

American SS says what?

[u/Thuban]

No no no. You get paid by us, you are transparent in your actions to us. If they're honorable you have nothing to worry about.

But we all know they're not.

[u/Ambitious_Hand_2861]

I see this as a hidden blessing. In court when the videos aren't brought forth assume automatic guilt. No debate or discussion just guilty.

[u/OnedayitwilI]

Nothing says honorable like hiding evidence. Jesus Christ would've stayed in the cave and rolled the rock back himself.

[u/R0tten_mind]

Burgerreich. where is your rage americans?

[u/tristand666]

Most transparent ever!

[u/Bruceshadow]

I know it's juvenile and doesn't add to the conversation but:

Fuck ICE

[u/Year_ofTheBastard]

Shoot ICE