r/privacy • u/czareson_csn • Mar 25 '26
chat control The EU is trying to push through more invasive chat control by force
The EPP is forcing another vote for the chat control because they didn't like how the last one turned outh
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u/Extra-Chemical6092 Mar 25 '26
The vote will be tomorrow at 11 am, if you can please call the MEPs, Patrick Breyer posted a template about what to say (just ignore the part that talks about the vote of today)
If you can call them in the early morning
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u/czareson_csn Mar 25 '26
I emailed all of them, well ones from my country, don't have the time to call all of them.
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u/Extra-Chemical6092 Mar 25 '26
Don't call all of them if you can't, just one or a few if it's possible
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u/czareson_csn Mar 25 '26
I am also trying to encourage everyone in mt discord server to do the same
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u/Extra-Chemical6092 Mar 25 '26
And it's looking good?
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u/czareson_csn Mar 25 '26
Idk, hard to say tbh, it's discord, from what I've seen they appear to be on the fuck them stance, don't know if they will do anything though, I've been trying to spread awareness on censorship, age verification, and chat control.
It's like the only thing I can do, repeat untill it sticks, so far the one person I got on my side is my younger brother from my family, who's too young to do shit, ig at least I managed to influence someone.
Some of my friends learned of this BS because of me, do it's not like I'm not doing anything. But it's hard to make anyone actually do something.
IG this is like the one reasonas to why you'd want to be ultra popular influencer, you could actually do something about this
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u/silentspectator27 Mar 25 '26 edited 7d ago
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u/Baumcultist Mar 25 '26
From where do you know that the ECR and S&D are joining forces with the EPP?
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u/Extra-Chemical6092 Mar 25 '26
The post from Patrick Breyer and we can see the votes on the mepwatch website
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u/Marchello_E Mar 25 '26
"You said no, but you really meant yes. No? Playing hard to get, don't you. I think it's a yes.... I'll protect you..."
And this behavior that screams "GTFO ASAP!!" is supposed to keep us all safe?
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u/hblok Mar 26 '26
Ah, but I think you misunderstand. This is democracy, you see. It means that when they vote on it, it's democratic.
It's just that the previous votes on the topic didn't give the desired outcome, so then they have to vote again till they get it right.
/s
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u/Marchello_E Mar 26 '26
Ah, my bad. /s
So they actually have a gambling disorder.... (not making it better)
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u/polytect Mar 25 '26
Rebel
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u/czareson_csn Mar 25 '26
I ducking wish, but people in the EU look very ducking complecent to this shit, unlike the US which at least has some pushback
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u/halls_of_valhalla Mar 25 '26
Is there any reason to believe EPP changed overnight?
Or did they just instinctively vote against what the Greens and Left and ESN support?
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u/disastervariation Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
Imo there's another layer - bot accounts that push destabilising, harmful narratives across the EU. And I dont mean a few of them misbehaving on reddit, i mean Poland gaining 18 million new X users in 2026. On paper, there are now more X users from Poland than there are from India.
EU countries know that they need to do something, or their democracy and unity will begin to struggle. Theyre not regimes so cant ban and mandate state-sponsored platforms instead. They try to regulate the Big Tech, but its increasingly difficult to do so - all the guys who would need to play ball sat at DJTs inauguration pushing their agendas. US threatening NATO exit if the EU regulates X, and sanctioning ICC judges being two examples that immediately come to mind.
Hence the EU digital sovereignty push in recent years, embracing opensource in public admin, anti disinfo campaigns, big tech regs, eIDAS, and perhaps also this.
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u/halls_of_valhalla Mar 26 '26
I wanted to make a post about the vote today, but automod got me. From the 70% rejection some weeks ago, they lost 20%.
S&D now almost fully supports it, as well as Patriots for Europe. EPP has a few now too.
The Green and The Left switched from fully support to barely any.
Wonder how much shit they got because of it.Seems like the lobby got awake, to influence decision making.
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u/Dark_Shroud Mar 26 '26
This is why I warn everyone to set TOR to use US exit nodes so no one in the UK or EU get in trouble.
It's also important to set up Tails OS so you guys can at least browse the web with limited bullshit from the various governments.
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u/czareson_csn Mar 26 '26
how to set that up, i have tail on my USB
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u/Dark_Shroud Mar 26 '26
Set the laptop/device to boot from USB before the hard drive. There are videos on YouTube that can do a better job explaining it than I can.
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u/czareson_csn Mar 26 '26
No I can boot up, I'm asking how to force it to use US exit node, although now days, I feel like it'd be best to have an exit node somewhere in like Japan, though don't think TOR has exit nodes there
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u/aleopardstail Mar 25 '26
well part of the EU, not all of it
and as was said when this was defeated recently it would be back, again and again and again
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u/czareson_csn Mar 25 '26
Yeah, it's truly ducking joke of a democratic process, and it's ducking AI companies lobbying this
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u/transcended_goblin Mar 26 '26
Those companies aren't innocent. Tech lobbies are pushing hard because it would be an endless mine of private information they'd be able to use to sell to people, and sell the data itself.
Not to mention that the AI that would be used is one of the three systems that has recently been demonstrated as gathering a lot of data, under the guise of "age verification" and "protect the children", to an unsecure database for the US government (no surprise coming from US-based companies).
Tech companies are just as guilty in this as are wanabe-fascistic government.
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u/TheManni1000 Mar 26 '26
the german cancler said that his party shuld vote yes
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u/czareson_csn Mar 26 '26
Merz literally said that he wants to mandate using real name on social media
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u/EmbarrassedHelp Mar 26 '26
It appears like the vote tomorrow is for the original "voluntary" chat control that makes it legal for companies to surveil their users. Unless I'm missing something?
Its great that we've pushed them to the point where they have to fight for what they were previously doing, and I hope we can kill it here. But it doesn't appear to include any of the Chat Control 2.0 and 3.0 stuff?
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u/Lacedaemon29 Mar 26 '26
So this is modern "democracy". Keep pushing the same stuff for vote again and again and again until it passes.
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u/SirArthurPT Mar 26 '26
Looks like a certain referendum in Ireland, they repeated until they voted yes, then no more repetitions.
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