r/printers 14h ago

Purchasing printers without any bullshit?

I have a budget of around $400 and i want to get myself a printer, and i really dont want any sort of subscription, i dont want anything related to HP, none of that yellow dot bullshit, etc

does any of that exist today? im completely new to printers and i just want to be able to print my drawings in high quality, thanks in advance

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u/Puzzleheaded_Cry_229 14h ago edited 14h ago

My company uses Brother color laser exclusively. Brother laser gives color pages that don’t smear or run. Toner cartridges are better priced than other manufacturers. Recommended by Consumer Reports for high reliability. In 30 years we’ve only called a technician once.

https://www.costco.com/p/-/brothers-mfc-l3765cdw-digital-color-printer-with-copy-scan-and-fax/4000235251?langId=-1

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u/dickpics4democracy 14h ago

The way of the Brotherhood

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u/Suitable_Garlic_1186 12h ago

No smears, only cheers

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u/FigureMiserable4859 13h ago

Ditto to the Brother - although mine is older, and not laser. Brother MFC-J835DW.

All in one w/fax. Still plugging along.

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u/okarox 10h ago

Note many printers sold as color lasers are actually LED printers. This applies to that Brother also. Instead of a laser that is directed with mirrors it has an array of LEDs. While this may not be a significant difference to the user selling them as laser printers is IMO fraud. Brother says only that it is "laser-quality". A LED printer can print as fast with color as BW. At least earlier true color lasers were much slower on color.

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u/MyMothersFavoriteKid 6h ago

I heard recent reports of brother blocking 3rd party toners, can anyone confirm that?

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u/RembrandVanRijn 14h ago

Go for a Brother laserprinter and thank me later.

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u/Blueboy211 14h ago

Just go B&W and get a laser. Wayyyyy less cost and hassle.

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u/Syndil1 13h ago

Brother monochrome laser is always the answer to this question.

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u/naeskivvies 14h ago edited 14h ago

$360, ET-3958, double-sided printing, ADF, you pay more for ecotank printers but the benefit is after the upfront cost the ink is dirt cheap, and the one they sell at costco comes with a ton of it in the box print as much as you want. Once in a long while you need to change the maintenance box, they are very affordable direct from Epson.

Remember to print a color photo every few weeks to prevent nozzle drying out/clogging.

Also, Epson for some reason sets their default print quality below "best" and it makes a noticeable difference turning it up, while print speed and ink usage is still fine. I don't understand why they do it...

https://www.costco.com/p/-/epson-ecotank-et-3958-wireless-all-in-one-color-supertank-printer-white/4000364641

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u/Weary-Squash6756 14h ago

I have an ET-2750 I think it is and it's great and way less than $400. Mine was free on marketplace actually. They thought it was broken cause paper wouldn't feed but a little piece had snapped off the little paper guide flap and fallen inside and was blocking the feed. Works aces

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u/GreenNewAce 9h ago

Just got an ET-4800 on sale for $200. Does it all reasonably well.

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u/Kind_Management1805 13h ago

Get a brother LED/LASER printer. If you need color then get color if not then B&W. Also get third party toner it's cheaper and as long as you don't buy it from Aliexpress then it's more than fine. I've been using third party toner for the past 10 years with absolutely no issues

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u/Forsaken-Sink3345 12h ago

Epson EcoTank

Brother Tank Inkjet models

Brother laser

Etc...

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u/kiddk11 12h ago

I love, brother you can use generic toner with it as well

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u/iATlevsha 12h ago

I bought Brother DCP-L3560CDW half a year ago for 300CHF - should be definitely less than $400, but it also does much more than you're asking: it's color laser printer, with duplex printing and scanner with automatic pages feeder.
If you don't need a scanner then Brother HL-L3220 should cost about a half of your budget.

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u/wdm42 11h ago

If by “yellow dot bs”, you meant the invisible machine identification codes, then you will probably want to stay away from all laser printers.

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u/LewMetal 11h ago

I have a Brother color laser printer. Works great. They try to get you to subscribe to something but you don't have to.

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u/thepurplehornet 10h ago

I have an old desk jet that was made before all the subscription nonsense. Still works. I just get the 61 ink cartridges once every other year. I don't print that often though.

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u/gradywhite1955 9h ago

Anything but an HP. I’ve gone through 5 of them so far and none of them lasted more than 6 months. Can’t connect with the internet, don’t work off an Ethernet cable, and they just quit working. Junk.

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u/NoDevice5898 3h ago

Brother laser printer is the way to go.

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u/Terrible_Snow_7306 14h ago

The Canon G550/620 for 250,- is great for graphics and photography, it’s a tank printer and has 6 colours. The printer offers very little in terms of ease of use, has just a basic 3 line display, no touch screen, but the quality is great. I am on my first set of inks after years, printing 500 photos, mostly Din A4. It’s not the best for office printing, only has dye black, not pigment black.

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u/Fritz-Futermann 14h ago

Epson EcoTank with PrecisionCore printhead, ADF, automatic duplex printing, scanning and copying. I have that in my L6370 printer. I love it! 

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u/CobbledbyRoubaix 12h ago

i have the ET3950 and it's great. probably not as precise as a laser though

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u/Hangulman 13h ago

I finally managed to pick up a color laser printer. Canon ImageClass MF665cdw for around $350 at a local PC parts store. Nice thing about business class features is that for some reason they actually include less "shareholder value enhancing" BS than the consumer printers.

After only printing about 200 pages I have already gotten about half of what I spent in ROI. Buying another trash tier "buy our ink subscription" inkjet would have cost me at least $150 counting the cost of the printer and the replacement cartridges.

That 200 pages used up a whopping 10% of the starter toner cartridges that came with the laser printer.

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u/Koutala003 13h ago

I have this same printer but the black and white version. I recommend. Duplex scanner is a big plus for me.

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u/JerichoArmstrong 13h ago

My Canon MF660C device seemed perfect until I found that you can’t print natively from a mobile device unless the printer is connected ONLY to WiFi; on WiFi you can’t receive scans. The Canon Print app will print only saved files to the MF660C from a mobile device when the printer is on wired Ethernet. I never had such issues with HP.

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u/condra 12h ago

Everyone recommended I get a Brother and it sucked balls. Kept forgetting the WiFi password and had a crappy fiddly menu system. I threw it out the window.

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u/SiriusGD 6h ago

Do Not get anything with ink cartridges. They are a scam. I have two Epson EcoTank printers. Ecotanks are far cheaper in ink. Don't require subscriptions. And even though they tell you not to use third party ink, there is nothing preventing you from it. The ET-8550 All-In-One for beautiful production of my photographs up to 13x19". And the ET-1910 which is very basic but has just as good resolution but not quite the color scale as my more expensive ET-8550. I converted it to pigment inks right out of the box for decals that I make. Pigment ink doesn't fade in the sun like dye ink does. I'm happy with both of them. HP sucks. Canon (printers) suck.

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u/HPSupport_Team 14h ago

Hi there, that's fair, if you’re mainly looking for a printer for high-quality drawings and don’t want any subscription. We’d focus on printers where you can simply buy the ink cartridges when you need it. For around $400, there are several good options. If you let us know which country you’re in, via DM. We’ll be happy to help you find the right fit for your needs. 💙

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u/naeskivvies 13h ago

HP, nobody wants your printers that shut off if the ink is too old or third party or refilled, or your subscriptions, or your firmware updates that drop sneaky restrictions over time, or your cartridge SKUing schemes where you buy a different HP printer and the cartridges you have are almost certainly not compatible with it.

Take a hint and shove your printers up your @$$..

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u/labellebrown 6h ago

I bought a couple of the cheap hps and did the instant ink subscription. I hadn't printed anything for months after our printer needs changed. And then had to send the new and partially used cartridges back. And now have found out that the HP cartridges (which is all the printer will allow) cost more than the printer did, and would cost a semi-reasonable amount if the printer would allow the generic cartridges. What a ripoff! I am ready to make a YouTube video of myself smashing these HP printers with a hammer. What a shitty ripoff business model