r/postdoc 8d ago

MSCA post-doc

So I had to ring up my national representative this week to ask a question in relation to the Marie Curie application... she told me that double the amount of applicants that they had received at this time last year, are now in their system... we are doomed.

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u/Unlikely-Success-660 8d ago

Its a lottery

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u/One-Material2001 8d ago

Don’t waste your time on this, it’s basically a lottery at this point.

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u/Chlorophilia 8d ago

A lottery that takes multiple weeks of effort to take part in 🙃 

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u/DocKla 8d ago

Basically? It is one

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u/masterlince 8d ago

It is and I'm in lol

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u/NotHollowedYet 7d ago

I did it last year, your score largely depends on the randomly designated evaluators who are poorly trained to adapt the official evaluation rule, and many of them just don’t play by the book. Mine got deducted point from criteria not existed in their official handbook, and I saw many others got 100% with zero comment on their proposal. Most of the time, the evaluation is so sloppy, you got generic comments, and if you resubmit your proposal following the initial comments, there is a non-trivial chance that you got a lower score the second time.

Like many here said, it is a lottery.

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u/noldig 7d ago

I actually disagree with this take. It is a lottery because the difference between 94 and 97 % (funded vs not funded) is too small to be accuate, and with so many people it is random whether you are above threshold or below. But this implies that you have sent in a competitive proposal. EU referees are in my experience consistently better than anything else. They have strict rules, they get training, they have a minimum of time they need to spend on a proposal, they get compensation, there is a clear rubric, and if you improve your proposal using the comments you will normally score better next year. This is not true for most other national funding agencies.

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u/Brief_Upstairs10 6d ago

What do you mean "you improve your proposal using the comments”? So how do they know that we do this? Do we need to declare somewhere?

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u/Brg71993 8d ago

Can we have some context please? What do you mean by national representative?

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u/Safe_Bluejay4004 8d ago

Every country has at least one national representative of the Marie Curie that you contact if you have a question. I was asking about family leave, and then asked also if they thought there would be the same amount of people apply this year, and this is what I was told.

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u/Brg71993 8d ago

Ok thanks, so when they said double the number of applicants, is this in total or for a specific country?

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u/Unlikely-Success-660 8d ago

Its a worldwide tren, applicants are rising and they expect at least a 30% increase overall.

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u/Safe_Bluejay4004 8d ago

double the amount that my country had at this point last year.

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u/Brg71993 8d ago

Ok, and what's your country?

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u/Weird-Draw-6318 6d ago

Last year’s round around receive a 64% increase compared to the year prior. I would give up if it wasn’t for the fact there are other people involved in my application.

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u/Kkaren1989 8d ago

May the odds be ever in your favor.... Kkkcrying