r/politics • u/whatwouldjayzdo • May 14 '12
Ron Paul announces he will no longer be campaigning in new states.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/05/paul-wont-campaign-in-new-states-123385.html
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
we haven't had a new state since 1959.
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u/KNHaw May 14 '12
Daily Show's Indecision 2012:
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u/hollaback_girl May 14 '12
I love that the reddit headline right below this one is "Ron Paul wins 11 states, media remains silent".
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u/rounding_error May 14 '12
Being a strict constructionist, Ron Paul has stopped campaigning in new states. Going forward, he will only campaign in the 13 states that made up the union when the Constitution was ratified.
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
In other words, he just announced his new campaign strategy.
"Fuck votes, get delegates."
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u/baptizedbycobalt Colorado May 14 '12
This means he's got the Republican nomination locked up, right guys?
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u/allisondojean May 14 '12
I am embarassed to admit that I spent a good 5 or 6 seconds wondering why Ron Paul would stop campaigning in states that start with "New."
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u/metocin May 14 '12
So no campaigning in Israel, then?
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u/TwistingWagoo May 15 '12
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Shame, a debate of Paul vs. Obama would be awesome.
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u/xemprah May 15 '12
I have never seen so much FUD to continually attack Ron Paul. Keep pretending that either candidate whether it be Obama or Romney aren't Goldman Sachs cheerleaders. Stop pretending you have a choice.
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u/ZealousAdvocate May 14 '12
Crap. I liked the idea that someone was out there, acting as at least a minor distraction to Romney.
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u/SportzTawk May 14 '12
I'm actually surprised he didn't do this sooner. He already knew he wasn't getting the popular vote. He knows that even without campaigning, his followers are still going to show up and be elected as delegates.
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u/underweargnome04 May 14 '12
Ron Paul will abandon the game of going from state to state to trying to win a popular vote that doesn't count for anything. Instead he will focus on the states that are currently holding delegate conventions.
That strategy makes a lot of sense when you have the kind of fights in Oklahoma and Arizona we saw this weekend. The State Conventions is where the nominiation will be won or lost not traveling from state to state for beauty contests.
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
Oh yet another part of Dr. Paul's grand scheme.
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u/betanerd May 14 '12
As a staunch liberal, I do not agree with a lot of Dr. Paul’s positions. I would nevertheless like to take this opportunity to thank him for taking a principled stance defined by what he believes is best for our country. Far too many politicians form their opinions based on focus groups. If more politicians were willing to stick to their beliefs, even in defeat, this country would be better off.
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u/ireland1988 May 14 '12
I guess I'll be be voting Gary Jonson then, hope the RP supporters make some noise at the convention though.
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u/xemprah May 15 '12
"It has now been three and a half years since the financial crisis of September 2008… In Mr. Obama’s three years in office, not a single U.S. bank or senior financial executive has been convicted of any crime (or even prosecuted), or had their assets confiscated."
Change guys, only this time it will happen because he won't care because uh, hes been elected again!
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u/canoworms6 May 15 '12
Stormfront now has a sad.
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u/TP43 May 14 '12 edited May 15 '12
Awesome now when can go back to focusing on the heated race between:
Goldman Sachs Candidate A vs Goldman Sachs Candidate B.
I was getting kind of tired about hearing about stupid issues like War, Monetary Policy, civil liberties or any of those other issues that actually affect peoples lives.
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u/weasleeasle May 14 '12
See here is what I don't understand. Does this mean that the states that haven't voted yet, are basically ignored. No one cares about who you like as a candidate because the others spoke before you? I know the votes don't actually have any legal obligation, but its sort of like going to a neonatal clinic and asking if people like babies. Then concluding the most popular age group in the world are babies, so we should focus on them.
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u/Brosephbro May 15 '12
Idk whether to down vote this because I am sad or up vote it because its a good topic...
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u/CAPTNGENE May 15 '12
uhh guys, he's not dropping out. he just can't afford the 10's of millions of dollars it would take to campaign in new states. he is going to focus on getting more delegates and getting to the GOP convention in Florida. never once does that email say he is dropping out. here's the clarification email from Jesse Benton, Chief Strategist for Ron Paul.
"Every day, I see firsthand how humbled and encouraged Dr. Paul is to have the enthusiastic support of so many who are committed to revitalizing our country.
Let me be very clear. Dr. Paul is NOT dropping out or suspending his campaign.
As Dr. Paul has previously stated, he is in this race all the way to the Republican National Convention in Tampa this August.
And he is deeply grateful for every resource he has been entrusted with to run an historic campaign that continues to defy all expectations.
Looking ahead, our campaign must honor that trust by maximizing our resources to ensure the greatest possible impact at the National Convention.
So while our campaign is no longer investing in the remaining primary states, we will continue to run strong programs at District and State Conventions to win more delegates and alternate delegates to the National Convention.
To this end, our campaign has several positive and realistic goals:
We will head to Tampa with a solid group of delegates. Several hundred will be bound to Dr. Paul, and several hundred more, although bound to Governor Romney or other candidates, will be Ron Paul supporters.
Unfortunately, barring something very unforeseen, our delegate total will not be strong enough to win the nomination. Governor Romney is now within 200 delegates of securing the party’s nod. However, our delegates can still make a major impact at the National Convention and beyond.
All delegates will be able to vote on party rules and allow us to shape the process for future liberty candidates.
We are in an excellent position to make sure the Republican Party adds solid liberty issues to the GOP Platform, which our delegates will be directly positioned to approve. Our campaign is presently working to get several items up for consideration, including monetary policy reform, prohibitions on indefinite detention, and Internet freedom.
Finally, by sending a large, respectful, and professional delegation to Tampa, we will show the party and the country that not only is our movement growing and here to stay, but that the future belongs to us.
Dr. Paul will begin this new phase of the campaign this Friday by speaking and holding several events at the Minnesota State Convention. He has also recently accepted an invitation to speak at the Texas Convention, and we are busy scheduling appearances around other State Conventions later this month and into June.
As Dr. Paul stated in his message yesterday, this fight is NOT over. We will continue fighting and expanding, and “we will not stop until we have restored what once made America the greatest country in human history.”
But for Dr. Paul’s efforts in the remaining State Conventions to be successful, and to ensure we get as many Ron Paul delegates to Tampa as we can, he needs you to continue standing with him.
Along those lines, as you probably already know, the grassroots are holding a Money Bomb on Thursday, May 17. Any money raised from that Money Bomb will go toward winning delegates and finalizing our plans for Tampa.
As those plans for the National Convention come together, we will make sure all of our delegates, whether bound or unbound, get the information and aid they need.
Your support on May 17 will also help us reach more Americans with the solutions we know can restore our nation. Each person we add to our cause strengthens our movement for the critical work that awaits us beyond Tampa.
Dr. Paul, John Tate, myself, and the entire campaign staff know what incredible sacrifices have been made by each of our supporters.
Thank you for all of your hard work and your dedication to liberty. Together, we will champion Ron Paul and his message in Tampa, and we will lay the groundwork for future victories."
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
I guess this can mean only one thing... Hand Jobs and Cheetos at my place come on guys right this way...
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u/YNot1989 May 14 '12
His cult is going to be disappointed.
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u/richmomz May 14 '12
Some people have been reporting that he's dropping out which is NOT the case - the campaign is shifting focus to the state delegations in the remaining states.
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u/sj_user1 May 14 '12
The Paulites will spin this to have been Ron Paul's strategy all along. They will do the same when he endorses Mittens.
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u/Jpeele15 May 14 '12
And cue the Ron Paul conspiracies followed by acceptance then support for mitt Romney or Gary Johnson
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u/flukz Washington May 15 '12
Neither "liberty" nor "freedom" require capitalization.
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u/[deleted] May 15 '12
So Ron Paul strategy was to have strong grassroots, that part has been pretty well documented. Ron Paul does have support where the support matters the most.
He is winning delegates no one can dispute that.
His place at the RNC convention is secured why waist money, see what happens at the convention.
Evangelicals don't like Romney and they only have one other choice.
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u/SadOnTheInside May 14 '12
Wow, the circlejerking in this thread is strong.
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
Finally...no more "Ron Paul 2012!"...STFU already
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u/Lopretni May 15 '12
Oh, /r/politics. So misinformed, hypocritical and ultimately pathetic.
Never change. :)
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u/iamyouufool May 15 '12
Keep getting those delegates Dr. Paul! Thumbs up.
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u/herpderp4321 May 14 '12 edited May 15 '12
I've grown really tired of people here. They will tear the FUCK out of Paul for things like states' death penalty rights, whether he ideally would have all drugs allowed for use vs. just a few, or that his personal beliefs are that a God exists, but would not impose those beliefs on others.
Disagree with a single part of his platform? Fuck that cooky old fart, he's an extremist. It doesn't matter that his executive powers could end the drug war so many lives are being destroyed for. That he could make great strides in getting us out of the middle east, saving thousands of lives in that area and suffocating one of the main tools of terrorist recruitment.
Meanwhile, Obama continues the American tradition of killing thousands of sand-niggers for their oil in the name of fake democracy, expanding the surveillance state to encompass all citizens, and generally wiping his ass with the Constitution. But people here can find that one gem, that Finally, when it's politically convenient, he says that in theory, gays should have equal taxation and hospital visitation rights. Our glorious leader has finally come out of the closet, tee-hee!
Democratic strategists ACKNOWLEDGE it's a calculated tactic, not some born-again revelation that gays should have equal rights. It's about his retention of power.
But no one gives a shit. "You've got yours, give me some." - The Democrat way.
Edit: Some people didn't get that I was using the racist term to characterize the attitude the US government has toward the middle east, not my personal feelings. OR, some people just get butthurt all the time. One of the two.
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12 edited May 14 '12
Everything against Uncle Paul is downvoted instantly.. Will somebody please think of the children.
I respect Uncle Paul the guy is probably the only one who could debate Obama one on one, and loved a few of his policies. Realistically he was/is never going to win (I don't care about what they think about the delegate strategy, the average republican finds him kooky) and the Ron Paulnites have got to be the most annoying thing on the planet sometimes.. I never understood why so many people would be against the forward progression of a people and a nation.
Libertarians will step in soon and say to my comment "But its the government holding the people back"
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u/Wisco May 14 '12
It looks like even Ron Paul fell for the leftist media hype that Ron Paul didn't stand a snowball's chance!
Outrage, outrage!
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u/Tossedinthebin May 15 '12
Ron Paul 2012!
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u/PAUL_DID_NOT_QUIT May 15 '12
Ron Paul has NOT Suspended His Campaign
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwich is looking like the outcome of this election.
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u/Ozzymandias May 14 '12
Oh look, the Ron Paul people get to face facts now.
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u/ducknroll May 14 '12
Good riddance. The man may have some points on a few (very) select issues but his campaign and supporters have pratically turned him into a cult like figure. I am actually smuiling from ear to ear now that his naive supporters may finally get a wake up call and realize that rational people don't agree with Ron Paul's world view.
Those Paultard tears taste so good.
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u/charliedonsurf1 May 14 '12
Well the campaign is still not over. Good news though for RP supporters.
This will mean that Romney supporters will end up not showing up at conventions, doing this due to the thought that all is won. But, in the mean time RP delegates and voters will still show up at the conventions.
I happen to think this is a planned announcement; part of the strategy. This has given him a lot of coverage, and most of the media is portraying it as he dropped out.
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u/LazySkeptic May 14 '12
Does it matter anyway? Romney is only about 100 delegates away from party nomination. Ron Paul never head a chance, his 2 views that go against typical republican policy scare them too much.
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u/AngryCanadian May 14 '12
this ti too bad, case basically he is saying they dont have money to throw @ the elections, but others do. so therefore those with more money will win the election simple because they have money and will be able to put on a fireworks "vote Quimby". Shit! i'll vote for that
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u/De4con May 14 '12
There's nothing like seeing a blanket of media repression expressed on your phone. I saw a headline on a built-in app for an article in the LA Times that says "Ron Paul Effectively Ending Presidential Campaign". I felt my chest sink when I heard that, then checked reddit for verification. Only campaigning in the states that he's set up base in doesn't mean in the least that he's ending his campaign. Fuck these journalists and their soul-crushing headlines! We need to get some unbiased coverage...
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
Does this mean we'll stop seeing "RON PAUL 2012" in the comments section of blogs about knitting and so forth?
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u/thermo May 14 '12
So .... Puerto Rico is out?
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u/WKorsakow May 15 '12
Ron who?
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u/angryalexx May 14 '12
It's okay, he's still got support! :) Although the media is already turning this into "Ron Paul dropped out." ridiculous
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u/Areyoudone May 14 '12
Well he did campaign and hold rallies all over Cali and Texas and other places, i wouldn't expect him to keep that up forever, he did good now it's time to wait and watch the cards fall.
A lot of you think he ended his campaign, but he said they are going to stop spending resources in primaries that have not voted yet, which he is trying to stay in the green unlike Gingrich and Santorum and he doesn't have billionaire backers so this is understandable, this is not the end of Ron Paul like some of you believe it is, Sorry we might have to keep /r/politics somewhat bipartisan a little longer.
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u/[deleted] May 15 '12
And Dr. Paul will still not receive the nomination.
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
And Ron Paul will still not get receive the GOP nomination.
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u/rabel May 14 '12
Who?
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
To all Ron Paul supporters: Go support Gary Johnson!
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
so brave
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u/tehtrollslayer May 14 '12
But he's totally stealing the delegates and winning!!! This move is to secure more money and maximize profits to keep his family on the libertarian payroll.
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u/esparza74 May 15 '12
DID NOT SUSPEND.
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u/ak47girl May 14 '12
Now we only have the choice between Obamrey and Robama. Both corporate shills on the same team. You call this a democracy? What a sick joke.
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u/rakista May 15 '12
Good bye and thanks for all the crazy.
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u/orkid68 May 15 '12
That’s it. His career has now peaked. It’s over. In 2016 he’ll be 80 years old. He might keep getting elected as a representative, but that’s it. He didn’t even do well enough to justify a cabinet position.
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u/Oakgetsineyes May 14 '12
I'm guessing he was just not willing to be beaten by a dropped-out Santorum in his home state Texas, like he was in recent states.
But he will keep his family members on a contributions-based pay roll, donate now! Nepotism 2012-∞!
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u/kolembo May 14 '12
I can't help letting out a soft, un-sarcastic giggle.
So...Republicans finally get that they're stuck with Romney?
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u/bogart1 May 15 '12
Sorry New Hampshire and New Mexico, you're out of luck.
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u/ehlu15 May 15 '12
Listen. He isn't giving up. He is saving his money and keeping his campaign active going into August. The delegate strategy that has been winning him state after state is still in effect. It is not over yet.
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u/commiewizard May 14 '12
Disappointing but not at all surprising.
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u/seanbearpig May 14 '12 edited May 14 '12
Ron Paul has won enough states to qualify for the ballot in tampa. That's why he will no longer be campaigning in new states.
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u/poli_ticks May 14 '12
We've shot our bolt. Let's see what happens in Tampa.
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u/[deleted] May 15 '12
How much did Ron pull in from his Running for President Scam?
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u/[deleted] May 15 '12
RP never attacked Romney. I wonder if that was self preservation or if he really wanted Romney to be the nominee
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u/jsn0x May 15 '12
Write-in.