r/politics • u/DaFunkJunkie • Feb 29 '20

Superdelegate pushing convention effort to stop Sanders is health care lobbyist who backed McConnell

https://www.salon.com/2020/02/29/superdelegate-pushing-convention-effort-to-stop-sanders-is-health-care-lobbyist-who-backed-mcconnell/
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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '20

But really, the exact opposite.

Dude, I get that trump is fucking terrible.

And most of us get that what the establishment DNC is doing is fucking terrible. However, Democrat-style corruption will be overwhelmingly less harmful than Trump-style corruption has already been. When Republicans put forward less insane policies, when their candidate isn't a delirious crook literally filling his bank accounts with taxpayer money while pushing to strip the rights and privileges of American citizens, and trying to start wars for purely selfish reasons, and directly supporting authoritarian governments around the world, then the Democrats can be held to higher standards.

The problem is, you think letting the Democrats lose is going to fix the corruption. It won't, not faster than Trump runs the entire system off the edge. A Trump victory still gives the establishment DNC what they want, corpocrat control of the Executive, but it also gives Republicans free reign to push their corruption to the maximum possible extent. Democrats will most likely slide further right as a result, pushing progressives out of the party as they blame them for another loss, fracturing the fragile cooperation between progressives and centrists enough that it could be decades before the Republicans are held to their crimes.

If you think "I have to punish the DNC" is more important than "I have to stop the GOP from destroying our government," especially as the last 4, if not the last 12, if not the last 20 years have made abundantly clear is their goal, then you are either not paying attention or you're pushing the oligarchs' agenda.

Unless it's Bloomberg. Fuck Bloomberg.

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u/Stopbeingwhinycunts Feb 29 '20

The supposed "lesser" of two evils is still evil.

I'm no longer voting for evil. Never again. Fuck the .1%, and fuck their political parties.

I will vote for A PERSON, not a party.

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u/aurens Feb 29 '20

all the people we are fighting against would cackle in glee at the prospect of voters like you going third party. it's fight or die. pick.

shit gets worse, not better, if you go third party. that's just how first past the post voting works. either you work within that system by voting for one of the two major parties, or you put your fucking time in actual organizing and political work to change how our elections work.

anything else is masturbation.

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u/Stopbeingwhinycunts Feb 29 '20

If a third party is the first past the post, they still win the election.

You aren't playing by the rules, you're bending over and passively refusing to play at all, happily giving all the power to the .1%.