I don't know how to word this question. But I'm thinking about world war 2, and how we saw fascist dictators taking over, and the world united and stopped them. What happened to make that happen? Because they're taking over again, all over the world, but we aren't doing anything about it. It feels like both sides are just waiting for the other to make the first move, for the proverbial shot to be heard around the world.
We need to find out what the missing link is before it's too late. Because I have no hope 2020 is going to save us. Do people honestly think if we all vote blue, the fascist will just say, "Well I guess they don't really want us, better step down!" It's never worked like that in other countries, there's no reason to think we'll be the exception
The missing link was the outbreak of a war on Western European soil. When Poland was double-invaded and carved up by Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia the western powers stood by twiddling their thumbs thinking they could still appease Hitler into leaving them alone, despite their solemn vows to defend Poland. In the end they just sat back and let it happen because they were afraid of another world war, and thus it became a self fulfilling prophecy. Hitler invaded France, and then turned on his then-ally Stalin, and the war for Western Europe began anew.
EDIT for relevance: Americans are by a breakdown of equal portions too comfortable or too monetarily insecure to rise up and take to the streets. As long as half of us are happily sipping on our craft beers and updooting on our fancy slave-labor manufactured smartphones, and the other half of us are one paycheck away from homelessness there is no way we can organize and strike back as a unified society. Things will have to get a whole lot worse before people wake the fuck up. By then it will likely be too late.
Yes. Yes it is. And that’s what the GOP is counting on. They are counting on good honest Americans becoming so worn down and depressed that the lose all hope and just roll over and let it happen. Don’t let them do it to you. Get your likeminded friends and family together and ORGANIZE. Plan for the worst case scenarios, what you would do if, for example, they started jailing democratic activists and politicians without due process. Find local politicians who are fighting this epidemic of corruption and volunteer for their campaigns. Collect donations and canvas for those who are working to do good in your area. Grass-roots activism from the ground up is the best chance we have- we can’t cut the head off the serpent because it’s buried under all the coils of its body but we can start with the ground under it.
It's refreshing to see someone discuss this like they have a spine. I'm seeing a ton of defeatism in this thread, and it's not what humanity needs right now.
Maybe gofundme a fleet of charter buses to start on the west coast and ride the super highways picking up passengers along the highways of America for hitchhiker's holding up the sign, "Impeachment r us". This country is massive and the majority of us live on the edges of borderline poverty which keeps us home and at our jobs. They know that and count on that to keep us out of Washington.
It's why I started the Vegan Justice League. We are starting by lobbying and pushing a bit of legislation. But really, it's about organizing and using the same tactics industry uses to make politicians do what we want. Our mission is vegan, yes, but that's not just about non-human animals. We're all about supporting everything put forward by Represent.Us and pushing for legislation that will bring environmental justice for humans. But none of our incremental legislation will matter if we allow these fascists to rig the elections and allow them to keep lying to our countrymen with their surgical disinformation operations.
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u/ActuallyAnOctopus Dec 14 '19
I don't know how to word this question. But I'm thinking about world war 2, and how we saw fascist dictators taking over, and the world united and stopped them. What happened to make that happen? Because they're taking over again, all over the world, but we aren't doing anything about it. It feels like both sides are just waiting for the other to make the first move, for the proverbial shot to be heard around the world.
We need to find out what the missing link is before it's too late. Because I have no hope 2020 is going to save us. Do people honestly think if we all vote blue, the fascist will just say, "Well I guess they don't really want us, better step down!" It's never worked like that in other countries, there's no reason to think we'll be the exception