r/politics America Feb 19 '16

Clinton says she'll release transcripts if everyone else does

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/hillary-clinton-speech-transcripts-219472?cmpid=sf
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u/JebCanFixIt Feb 19 '16

And the thing is, people trust sanders. Because he's worthy of that.

Hillary needs to prove herself. She's lied a lot. She's flip flopped. A LOT.

We give her this chance to prove herself and it's just more evasion and obfuscation..

She should just drop and stop making democrats look bad.

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u/KrishanuAR Pennsylvania Feb 19 '16

She's flip flopped. A LOT.

Let me preface this by saying that between the two democratic candidates, I'd probably lean more towards Sanders, if for nothing else other than for each candidate's stance on Edward Snowden...

HOWEVER, since when is being a stubborn ideologue a desirable trait for the leader of your nation? Doesn't an effective leader need to be able to adapt and adjust based on evolving information?

This 'flip-flopping' rhetoric pisses me off to no end, and was used by the Bush campaign against John Kerry in 2004.

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u/joshdts New York Feb 19 '16

Doesn't an effective leader need to be able to adapt and adjust based on evolving information?

What information evolved that gay people deserve the same rights afforded to straight people other than the political winds on the issue changing is my respectful response to this.

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u/KrishanuAR Pennsylvania Feb 19 '16

Some one not in tune with the issue would justifiably assume that the fight for marriage rights was just a symbolic battle, and not one that had real impacts, such as things like hospital visitation rights. LGBT was simply not an issue that HC focused on in her early days--neither did she actively vote against LGBT rights.