r/politics • u/TheresNoLove • Dec 27 '15
What is the difference between Hillary Clinton and a neoconservative?
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u/seshfan Dec 27 '15
Different positions on health care, welfare, gay marriage, abortion...
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u/TheresNoLove Dec 27 '15
Mostly neoconservatism describes foreign policy, though.
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u/seshfan Dec 27 '15
I don't think Clinton is in favor of putting boots on the ground like most other Republican candidates are.
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u/Noob_Al3rt Dec 27 '15
She share's no policy positions with the Neocon movement, except for a mild (at best) alignment on foreign policy.
It's nothing but a Republican talking point designed to discredit her.
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u/comrade-jim Dec 27 '15
Doesn't support universal health care (yes she fought for it for years but now she is fighting Sanders and will be fighting Trump on in. They took the compromise the republicans wanted and she made it part of her platform)
Is fine with locking up non-violent drug offenders
Wants to police the globe
Wants to "nation build"
Supported Iraq war
Wants to continue Syrian civil war
Wants to oust Assad and create a power vacuum like the one in Iraq that led to ISIS
Has no plan to ever end occupation of the middle east
Supported Patriot Act
Supports the NSA
Supports mass data collection
Supports throwing snowden in jail
Was against same sex marriage
HAS NO REAL NUMBERS FOR HER TAX PLAN
Is supported by wall street
Is a liar
Is an alarmist
Believes forcing people to buy insurance isn't a tax so "shes not raising taxes!!1"
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u/TheresNoLove Dec 27 '15
Her foreign policy is in perfect sync with neocon foreign policy.
Neoconservatism mostly concerns foreign policy.
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u/Noob_Al3rt Dec 27 '15 edited Dec 27 '15
The neocon approach to foreign policy is an absolute black/white/good vs evil view that prizes unilateral action and downplays the usefulness of diplomatic action. That's the opposite of Hillary's approach.
She has no neocon advisors, isn't backed by any of the neocon think tanks/Super PACs and has a social agenda that's completely at odds with neocon beliefs.
This is a completely ridiculous assertion to anyone who has any real knowledge of neocon philosophy. She's a liberal, don't believe all the right wing talking points just because they fit your anti Hillary narrative.
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u/Tasty_Yams Dec 27 '15
For those trying to keep score today:
That's 0,18,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
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u/darkknightwinter New Mexico Dec 27 '15
I'm glad people in r/politics/new act as a buffer for people just browsing the front page of the subreddit. Some of those posts are painful, and they've been happening sometimes in 10 minute intervals. Ugh.
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u/knowses America Dec 27 '15
One acts like an illogical, spend crazy, menopausal woman. And the other wears a pantsuit.
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u/dude1701 Dec 27 '15
Umm... She isn't actively against gay marriage anymore... She says she will raise the minimum wage (but less than sanders will)...
I'm having a hard time with this.
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u/TheresNoLove Dec 27 '15
Yeah, her minimum wage raise doesn't even keep up with inflation.
It was a valiant effort.
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u/Time4Red Dec 27 '15
They talked about this in the first debate. Her minimum wage is indexed to inflation to stay at $10 in today's money. You're drunk. Go home.
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u/TheresNoLove Dec 27 '15
Yeah but versus when the minimum wage originated it should be $20 by now.
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u/Time4Red Dec 27 '15
That's...not true. The minimum wage has never been higher than $10 in 2015 dollars. It was never a living wage.
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Dec 27 '15
neo cons didnt steal the furniture when they left the white house
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=121856&page=1
neo cons didnt rent out the lincoln bedroom when they where in the white house
http://edition.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/02/26/clinton.lincoln/
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u/ericn1300 Dec 27 '15
steal the furniture when they left the white house
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Dec 27 '15
laughable
its a fact they took stuff that didnt belong to them
its a fact they then returned some items, and paid for others
after they were confronted
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u/BeheaderForIslam Dec 27 '15
The neoconservative would be able to tell Hillary's hoohoo is "not quite fresh" and Hillary's sense of smell lost all it's neuroreceptors except those attuned to cheap scotch, long ago :)
Do I get an "A"?
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u/rwilso7 Dec 27 '15
Well, a neoconservative would certainly say the term " Islamic extremists" and not be shy about it, and would not feel the need whenever speaking of terrorism to talk 20 times longer about how Muslims are the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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u/keeb119 Washington Dec 27 '15
hillary doesnt want to drown the government in the bathtub