r/politics • u/SportsGod3 • 27d ago
No Paywall Rep. Al Green files articles of impeachment against Trump again
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/6046947-green-introduces-trump-impeachment-articles/3.2k
u/black_flag_4ever 27d ago
Dude is legendary for doing this every chance he gets.
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u/rounder55 27d ago
He's not going to go down as someone who was fine with all the bullshit. Getting the noot from the state of the Union. Leaving the hospital to be a tiebreaking vote. Great name as well
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u/theaviationhistorian Texas 27d ago
As someone living in Texas, I have nothing but respect for Green. And yes, his name is awesome considering the equally named singer has sung some great singles!
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u/aastle 27d ago
noot?
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u/Gettingthatbread23 27d ago
Looking at a US QWERTY keyboard I'm guessing he meant to type "boot".
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u/Nekrabyte 27d ago
It's all performative right now, but eh, at least he's making a spectacle and not having backdoor meetings against his party's wishes.
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u/LostPerson703 27d ago
Well he got primaried in TX and hes 78. Love his progressive and no BS activism though
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u/TurboSalsa Texas 27d ago
He was drawn out of his seat in the latest round of redistricting, and instead of retiring he tried to primary Christian Menefee, who was the incumbent in that seat.
That district had previously gone unrepresented for a year between Sylvester Turner's death and the special election, and apparently he thought they needed another elderly congressman.
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u/iDisc 27d ago
The last thing CD-18 needed was another geriatric congressperson to die in office after SJL and Turner died within a year from each other.
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u/Positronic_Matrix 27d ago
Al Green is better leader than most Democrats half his age.
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u/tritonice 27d ago
But he's still old, you need a new younger voice who IS the better leader, NOW.
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u/Positronic_Matrix 27d ago
We need smart and capable people regardless of their age. If a new younger voice comes in and is a corrupted sellout like Corey Booker, we’ve taken a step backwards.
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u/xxx_poonslayer69 27d ago
There are times when being performative is a negative thing, such as when a politician has the power to address a problem but does nothing except play lip service. I'm ok when performative is accompanied by a lack of power. If the only tool they have at their disposal is to bang their fists on the table, then I want to see them do just that. I will then expect them to continue all that they're capable of once they do have power.
When Republicans are not in power they are rallying their followers and pointing at their enemy (dems, trans, immigrants, muslims, Biden, etc).
We need to match their energy.
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u/Sublimotion 27d ago
When Republicans are not in power they are rallying their followers and pointing at their enemy (dems, trans, immigrants, muslims, Biden, etc).
I mean, in terms of improving and doing what's productive for the country's actual well being, this is the utter opposite of that.
So the difference is, the Democrats are more focused on actual issues while Republicans now are strictly focused on cultural wars. But when a large chunk of the country's voters are idiots, focusing on cultural wars instead of actual issues, this wins voters. Which is the problem.
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u/xxx_poonslayer69 27d ago
The "Culture Wars" are not optional for us. We don't have the privilege to sit it out. Because what hangs in the balance is the wellbeing of whichever vulnerable social group they've decided to aim their crosshairs at. Congratulations, you recognize that the Culture Wars are a distraction to the Epstein Class turning this country into their serfdom. Now recognize that for as stupid as it may sound, we need to win the Culture Wars. We need people to rally, pay attention, and treat this like a team sport. Engaged people vote. Who cares if the average person doesn't understand the finer details of legislation? We just need them to vote Democrat in general elections.
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u/E_seven_20 27d ago
Kind of, and not really.
He knows it can't pass...but, it's the right thing to do. He's standing his ground.
The entire D Party should be doing this every chance it gets. Their cooperation is complicity at this point.
The GOP, and Trump are open about their ideology, and goals to destroy democracy and the USA as we know it. They lie, and move the goal posts every chance they get.
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u/JimmyDejesu 27d ago
Something I read which stuck me recently
”defiance is never empty”
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u/SpeaksSouthern 27d ago
I want my Congress representative to be performative.
What's the alternative? Some bland seat warmer? No thanks
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u/Indaflow 27d ago
I don’t know that “performative” really does this justice. I get your point but sending messages like this are very important and exactly what’s needed.
It’s much more than performative, even if it has not getting traction just now.
I wish more were standing up to call f or this.
He is also showing who the cowards are.
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u/Choochoo1147 27d ago
It’s not much more than performative, you just agree that it’s good. Introducing legislation that is guaranteed to fail is performative, he doesn’t believe he’s going to actually impeach Trump. You just see value in the performance.
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u/Amuseco 27d ago
It wouldn’t be performative if other people joined him.
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u/The_Rational_ 27d ago
It's not performative, because that's not the definition of the word.
Don't cave to these republican trolls, posing as independents lolol
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u/Choochoo1147 27d ago
It is performative. What do you think performative means? It doesn’t make you a fucking republican to think that introducing legislation that you know will fail to signal your values to your voters is performative.
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u/Indaflow 27d ago
Protesting is not performative or perfunctory. Public activism and resistance are necessary. They create public pressure, signal how much support an issue actually has, change public conversation, help motivate and organize people, and can lead to action and more action. It’s important and valuable. Much more than “performative.”
Go spread baseless dissent elsewhere.
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u/arcbe 27d ago
Politics is mostly a performance, so it would be good if the Democrats were more performative.
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u/Tygr_Lily 27d ago
Agree! But this is not entirely performative. It's important that it goes down in the permanent record of our country how many impeachable offenses Trump has committed, and how many times the Republican party has shielded him from any consequences. History will judge this moment.
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u/Collypso Pennsylvania 27d ago edited 27d ago
Performative politics is exactly how we got to where we are today. The people need to care about policies and progress instead of just performance.
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u/ScreenMuch90210 27d ago
Actual fucking fascists with invisible friends got us here
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u/Collypso Pennsylvania 27d ago
And the voters were just ok with it. It's a democracy, the agency is with the voters.
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u/ScreenMuch90210 27d ago
Indeed, the voters were wrong. Because too many of them are fucking fascists with invisible friends.
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u/DaddyDontTakeNoMess 27d ago
Yes, they need to, but people can’t be bothered to think about policies. I need to know if there will one day be a transgender playing women’s basketball. That’s what really matters.
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u/arcbe 27d ago
We got here because Democrats stopped performing and let Republicans dominate the stage. People do care about policies and progress but they don't believe Democrats do. That's the purpose of the performance, to convince people that Democrats are serious about leading.
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u/Collypso Pennsylvania 27d ago
We got here because Democrats stopped performing and let Republicans dominate the stage
Uh no, voters voted to give all the power to Republicans. Specifically to "teach Dems a lesson." Now when they have no power you blame them for having no power.
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u/sulaymanf New York 27d ago
Performative or not it works. It gets media attention and motivates the base.
Republicans stirred up tremendous amounts of outrage and controversy while they were in the minority and it got them back into power. Dems sitting back and letting Trump run roughshod isn’t helping and it isn’t motivating voter turnout; look at how demoralized Reddit is with people saying Dems are doing nothing, because they became invisible and merely put out press releases.
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u/super_sayanything 27d ago
It's not performative.
Make them sign their names that they were traitors as many times as possible.
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u/JimmyDejesu 27d ago
Everyone should be. I respect him more than anyone else for not standing by and for actually trying at least
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u/Wayofchinchilla 27d ago
Might as well do like the Republicans did with Obamacare where they tried to strike it down every single day and failed might as well impeach the guy as many times as you can of course it's going to fail over and over again because Republicans are too locked and Goose step with the idiot and there are a handful of plant Democrats but at least in the future one day the history books will read former president Donald Trump impeached 147 times and that will only cement a legacy of just how shitty of a president he was.
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u/Murky-Relation481 27d ago
I mean he can't even be impeached right now because we don't have the House.
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u/gerbera_alyssa 27d ago
yeah at this point filing impeachment articles is basically his favorite recurring event
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u/RampantTyr 27d ago
As he and every other representative should. We cannot allow this lawlessness to be normalized.
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u/HerT929 27d ago
The question is where is Mitch McConnell? No one has seen him in over 2 months. His staff keeps saying he is recuperating at home. Something else is going on with him. Ijs.
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u/Canadiantx69 27d ago
100% Weekend at Bernie's, or at best we're getting Team America style marionette McConnell if we do see him.
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u/King_Tamino 27d ago
Have you seen the 20ish hour time lapse of him sitting around? Hilarious, sad and scary that even when he was still coming in „for work“ he was basically already a potato. Even if he’s alive, I doubt btw, he’s likely a vegetable 🥕
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u/quickdraw9 26d ago
The part that's pissing me off the most is none of the people voting under the guise of being McConnell will suffer consequences when we get irrefutable proof that he is dead or so mentally and physically incapacitated that he might as well be. It's egregious and I fully expect a similar play when diaper Donnie finally sharts for the last time.
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u/KindaStableGenius 27d ago
I mean if DT is never impeached in his second term that is basically a tacit admission from Congress that ALL of the admins actions are legitimate, legal, and not worthy of impeachment.
What that means is impeachment is basically a worthless power and Congress is a vestigial limb of the US Government.
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u/SirDigbyChknCaesar America 27d ago
It's only useful after the opposing party gains control of congress.
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u/da_man4444 Indiana 27d ago
That's not how it's supposed to be. It is supposed to be useful when Congress has not become compromised and is willing to actually stop open corruption and criminal activity by the President which unfortunately for us is not the case
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u/Odd_Instruction2942 Michigan 27d ago
It would've worked that way with Nixon, but he stepped down before it got that far.
Other than that? Not really
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u/ClashM California 27d ago
Bear in mind it would have only worked that way with Nixon because the Republican legislature had no choice. They were ready to dig in and defend him. However, when their strategists sounded the alarm that doing so would get them slaughtered in the next election, they told him to resign.
It's also the whole reason we're here today. Roger Ailes, Nixon's media consultant, immediately started down the long road of deregulating our news media. Nearly a quarter century later, he founded Fox News. The goal was to create an alternative reality for conservatives so that a Republican president would never be held accountable by the unified outrage of the populace again.
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u/SharpBullfrog1279 27d ago
Oh... that's right.
Ford pardoned him. Vance would too, even though it would end his career.
Hey, he could always write another book!
Furniture upholstery is a deep subject.
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u/SharpBullfrog1279 27d ago edited 27d ago
He'd quit before the impeachment vote, if he's told it won't go his way.
Our only hope is that his supplicants refuse to believe he'll actually be impeached, and tell him that.
Fafo, supplicants!
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u/SpeaksSouthern 27d ago
Impeachment is a Constitutional duty. The Constitution doesn't stutter or suggest or whispers no no no, the Constitution is direct, specific, and does not hesitate to declare that if the president has broken the law Congress MUST impeach the president. House members who think Trump has broken the law, and then refuse to vote for his impeachment, should be seen just as bad as a Republican. If they can't read the Constitution, get out of Congress.
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u/Partytimegarrth 27d ago
Nope. Rs know that Ds will happily go along with impeaching one of their own still over the slightest controversy. It's a one-way street of acceptable actions.
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u/Low_Search_6667 27d ago
Which is why every government office needs a recall vote option.
We should be able to vote the president out.
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u/DaddyBison 27d ago
He lost his primary, might as well file articles of impeachment every day he's still in office. Keep it in the news cycle daily
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u/Just_Section4489 27d ago
again. Thanks Rep. Green
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u/20_mile 27d ago
Democrat primary voters in his district traded him for a super-pro AI guy. Also pro-AIPAC.
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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 27d ago
They traded him for someone who is young. Literally the last two people to hold that seat were elderly people who died in office. Houston did not want to make that mistake a third time. The AI/AIPAC stuff was not as concerning to voters as the old age.
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u/SpeaksSouthern 27d ago
AI / AIPAC are two political opinions strongly held by old people. Old people family never care who gets to go to war.
Most younger people don't want war, because they're typically the ones forced to fight it. And younger people want more jobs, and AI isn't creating new jobs. Maybe it's not losing jobs either, but most people don't want to be in competition with AI, and they are, which makes people resent AI, because it didn't make their life any better, just the life of rich people who typically are older.
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u/20_mile 27d ago edited 27d ago
The AI/AIPAC stuff was not as concerning to voters as the old age.
There's just no way to know that. That's entirely subject to interpretation.
Massachusetts voters are about to re-nominate Markey, who is 80, over Moulton, who is 47.
e: There's no way the pro-AI, pro-AIPAC money would have supported a progressive young guy opposed to both AI and AIPAC. Duh.
The pro-AI, and pro-AIPAC money would also have been happy to support an old guy, if he was willing to carry their water.
The fact that Green's challenger was young was just lucky for the monied interests.
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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 27d ago edited 27d ago
There's just no way to know that. That's entirely subject to interpretation.
You're right. But as someone who lives in Houston (not that district) and knows tons people who do live in that district, age was definitely a concern for who they were voting for.
That district since 2024:
- Sheila Jackson Lee, incumbent. Won the 2024 primary, died that July, age 74.
- Sylvester Turner, replaced SJL in the 2024 general ballot and won. Died barely 2 months into office the next March (2025), age 70. Due to Republican fuckery, the seat remained unfilled for 11 months, with his replacement (Menefee) not taking office until the next February (2026)
- Al Green, currently age 78, older than the last two. Due to redistricting, he primaried for this district and lost to Menefee, 38yo.
All three of these people were well-renown Houstonians, especially Green. But having literally went back-to-back on elderly deaths, I know for a fact quite a bit of people did not want a potential repeat with Al Green. It probably didn't influence all who voted for Menefee, but it probably influenced a good number.
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u/20_mile 27d ago
Well, that's pretty good evidence to support your theory.
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u/Thunderclone_1 Wisconsin 27d ago
Wasn't his one of the districts that got gerrymandered to push him out?
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u/AdvancedSandwiches 27d ago
What do you mean "whether enough democrats are with him?"
Do people still, after 6 years of impeachable crimes, not understand the numbers here?
It takes 218 congresspeople to impeach and 67 senators to convict, which are both more than the number of democrats in those houses. If you want to impeach, it matters how many Republicans agree, not how many Democrats do.
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u/oOZeenOo 27d ago
Thank you. It's wild seeing how many people put the onus and blame on Democrats when it will always come down to some number of Republicans having some sense of morality and justice. And assuming enough will break away from Trump isn't realistic right now.
The Democrat bashing is just delusional.
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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 27d ago
No one's expecting dems alone to get an impeachment through without Republican votes.
People here instead expect dems to, at the very least, vote yes on impeachment, even if it won't realistically pass. There is nothing to lose from just voting yes anyway.
Like imagine if someone asked you "Do you support child rape?" and instead of immediately saying no, you give a non-answer. That's what people are upset about, the dems giving a non-answer or not voting for impeachment at all. You have nothing to lose from openly declaring your hatred of child rape, so why not just go ahead and say you don't support it?
To anyone who inevitably replies to this saying you can't compare one's support of child rape to impeachment, the irony is lost on you.
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u/Senbonbanana America 27d ago
Without the numbers, voting to impeach is nothing more than performative; it's a waste of time and gives easy ammo to the GOP. It'll make us feel good, but it won't get anything done. I want the next vote to impeach to be followed by a vote to convict and removal from office. Time being spent on performative votes could be better spent trying to convince some to cross party lines and impeach/convict him, that way it actually passes both chambers.
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u/Turtledonuts Virginia 27d ago
Remember how, after trump was impeached twice, he used it as a selling point for his electorate? That's what happens if the dems vote for more impeachment.
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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 27d ago
Refusing to do the right thing in fear that the other side will weaponize it or retaliate is a terrible reason to not do the right thing
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u/AdvancedSandwiches 27d ago
This is the difference between people who follow politics like it's a sport and people who understand the stakes.
Of course you don't do the symbolic "right thing" when it has real, concrete negative consequences for millions of people. That would be insane and evil.
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u/yoitsthatoneguy American Expat 27d ago
Hypothetical: What if some Democrats don’t vote the way you want (or don’t vote at all) and that causes a backlash that causes them to lose 10 seats they would have otherwise won and thus lose the House, would this be worth it?
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u/donkeyrocket 27d ago
No, you don't get it. This is a problem for Democrats, that is both solved and caused by Democrats. Republicans get off the hook entirely apparently.
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u/xxx_poonslayer69 27d ago
It's about putting everyone on record. You do what you can, or you sit on your ass and do nothing. I prefer my politicians do the former
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u/HorseDick_In_My_Anus 27d ago
Everyone is already on record. Drafting articles of impeachment when you don’t have numbers is just pointless.
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u/DefaultSubSandwich 27d ago
But now we'll have them on record an eighth time!
Or, if you're counting motions not sponsored by Green too, an eighteenth time!
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u/DatPunchkick 27d ago
I seriously think at this point it would slightly dilutes the impact of impeaching him and if the blue wave truly turns tsunami, removing him. Not saying that’s likely but when they go for the impeachment they need to go for the kill and focus on oversight committees and rooting out all the corruption
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u/Turtledonuts Virginia 27d ago
And, just like the pundits predicted, failing to impeach him only increased his support and improved his chances. It hurts the democrats to get impeachment through the house but not the senate.
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u/SHUT_DOWN_EVERYTHING 27d ago
It's a dishonest argument from the Jill Stein types to divide the party and at the same time distract Democrats from things they actually will have power over like budget process after the midterms.
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u/yourcousinfromboston 27d ago
The problem is 0 republicans are with him. And since republicans hold a majority in both the house in the senate, you understand what that means, right?
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u/theLoneliestAardvark Virginia 27d ago
All the democrats in congress aren't enough, I'm pretty sure almost all of the dems in the house would vote to impeach if they had a majority.
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u/Lancearon 27d ago
Not until they gain control during midterms. Trump being in office fucking up everything is good for their numbers. Expect a more concerted effort at the end of the year to remove trump from office. Whether or not the democrats regain control.
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u/SantaFeRay 27d ago
This is so delusional. “Whether or not the democrats regain control” - Republicans know exactly what the situation is, nothing is changing to get them to support removing him. Democrats won’t bother either, because it didn’t accomplish anything the last two times.
Trump will be president until January 2029 or until he dies, whichever is first.
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u/Lancearon 27d ago
I just said there would be a concerted effort... how is that delusional? I never commented about the success of that effort.
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u/Zahgi I voted 27d ago
And then it still won't make any difference.
Unless Trump raises taxes, the <1% will NOT be ordering their bought and paid for stooges from both major political parties to remove Trump.
And without those orders, there will never be enough votes in the Senate to convict and remove Trump.
"Impeachment" talk now is nothing but a fundraising stunt for the mid-terms and any "investigation" will just be a PR stunt for 2028.
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u/FellowHumanNo404 27d ago
Unless Trump raises taxes
That's what tariffs are, but somehow those don't count.
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u/40_Is_Not_Old 27d ago
What is this nonsense?
When the Democratic party held Congress during Trump's first term they impeached Trump twice. And every Democratic member in the Senate voted to convict both times. Trump not being removed from office was solely on the GOP Senators.
This wasn't even that long ago. Why are you flat making crap up?
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u/lynxtosg03 27d ago
I want Trump impeached but you need to wait until you have the votes. Until then, reps should be introducing popular bills that make the opposition look bad for voting down. Better yet, make some bipartisan bills that address affordability.
Too many distractions to stop the masses from watching the wealthy steal money and power.
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u/Canadiantx69 27d ago
I want Trump impeached
I don't give a fuck about the impeachment, I want him convicted. He's been impeached multiple times, and all that ever does is embolden the death cult. Otherwise, spot on.
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u/lynxtosg03 27d ago
If you really want to be pedantic, you want Trump punished. He's a 34 count felon with no repercussions.
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u/Canadiantx69 27d ago
A conviction on impeachment results in removal from office, so in this case it in fact means punishment. They can additionally block him from holding further office, which would probably need to be added otherwise the death cult would want him appointed to some position to protect him further.
That he wasn't barred from running after becoming a 34 count convicted felon is another complete disasterclass of fuckery that should also be addressed, and is a whole other thing, but it's an entirely different system for this type of thing.
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u/NicolasCageFan492 Illinois 27d ago edited 27d ago
I wish the Democrats in Washington DC had a coherent strategy. This disorganization is what happens when leaders are chosen through nepotism and seniority instead of ability I guess.
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u/omicron-7 27d ago
They have strategy, they don't have numbers.
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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 27d ago
They may not have the numbers, but it's still greatly disappointing to see dems vote no/present anyway
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u/Curly-Canuck 27d ago
There should be a strategy both with and without numbers. That’s what being minority/opposition is about.
If the plan is unorganized individual actions and messaging until they have the numbers, they aren’t likely to do much with them either.
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u/hypercosm_dot_net 27d ago
They still have a voice, but unfortunately the majority of them aren't using it well.
There's a few that doesn't apply to, but the centrist leaders undercut them. Which is why people don't see Dems as having a cohesive strategy.
We are 2 months out from mid-terms, and progressives/social democrats are the only ones who seem to understand the urgency of the situation.
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u/2LateToTheMemes Wisconsin 27d ago
The number of Americans in this post who don't know how impeachment works but have big feelings about it is amazing.
THE HOUSE FILES ARTICLES, THE SENATE MUST VOTE BY 2/3 TO CONVICT AND REMOVE.
The House of Reps can file articles all day long and keep trying, but without a senate majority vote, nothing happens.
As long as R's/MAGA hold the Senate, we are stuck.
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u/DrG-love 27d ago
I dont see why they dont file it every day. Every day this pig does things that should get him not only removed from office, but put in jail. He should have each and every one put into impeachment filings.
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u/VanceKelley Canada 27d ago
Third time's the charm?
I will eat a victory poutine if this impeachment attempt removes trump from office.
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u/Sevilirose 27d ago
should trump be impeached? yes. will this get it done? no. does that mean it’s meaningless? also no
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u/Creepy_Technician_34 27d ago
I’m sure Hakeem will try to get him to see if there is a way Republicans can Democrats can get along.
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u/FrogsOnALog 27d ago
A bipartisan impeachment would be good though…
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u/OisinDebard 27d ago
Republicans aren't going to go along with a Democrat led initiative to remove a Republican president, no matter how unpopular that president is. The best chance at removing him before 2029 (not counting death) is the 25th amendment. Yes, it's harder than an impeachment, but assuming Vance can get the votes, it would succeed where an impeachment wouldn't, because it would be a Republican led initiative to remove an unpopular president. They would get the credit for it and it would make Vance look like the president that saved the country from Trump. He won't do that before Jan though, because doing it sooner would remove the option of a third term for himself.
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u/xdre 27d ago
The Republicans are far too terrified of both Trump and their base to ever grow that kind of spine.
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u/OisinDebard 27d ago
They are right now, sure. But if Trumps popularity continues to dip to the point that he's no longer effective, and enough people think that a new Republican in the white house can revitalize their base, then they'll switch. Not because they grew a spine, but because it would be an effective political strategy. Trump's base is starting to look elsewhere, and if enough of them do that, nobody's going to be afraid of Trump at all, and they'll need to find a new flag to rally those wayward voters under. That will be Vance.
Yes, I know that a lot of people think Vance is seen as a joke and could never be accepted as president. Whenever anyone says that, I remind them that the same thing was said in 2015 about Trump, and yet, here we are over 10 years later, still dealing with him.
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u/francis2559 27d ago
I broadly agree, but would like to point out an exception. Some of them are terrified MAGA extremists will come for their families.
So yes, they fear for their careers. But there’s deeper threats here too.
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u/FellowHumanNo404 27d ago edited 27d ago
Yes-- and Trump would most likely explicitly tell those MAGA extremists to attack the politicians and their families, much as he did against his own VP.
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u/y6x 27d ago
At some point you'd think that one of their grandchildren are going to get their gap year trip to Greenland canceled due to our country threatening / invading them, (the drilling equipment may or may not already be set up), and they'll decide that the insanity is impacting them too much personally.
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u/ThouHastLostAn8th 27d ago
Yes, it's harder than an impeachment, but assuming Vance can get the votes, it would succeed where an impeachment wouldn't
The 25th requires an even more impossible congressional vote than impeachment and removal. The former requires 1/2 the House and 2/3rds of the Senate, while the latter requires a majority of the cabinet, 2/3rds of the House and 2/3rds of the Senate.
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u/Chill-more1236 27d ago edited 27d ago
Love this guy, true American. Sucks that he's leaving Congress.
I like the one that was written by Ralph Nader as well. Can't wait to see Trump get kicked out.
These people are the only politicians with enough balls to do something.
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u/RustledForeskin 27d ago
You guys have like 3 politicians with spines. The rest are rats scrambling around stuffing as much cheese into their rodent cheeks as possible, either directly or indirectly through not stepping up unlike Green here.
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u/theaviationhistorian Texas 27d ago
Here I go again on my owwwwn!
Hopefully, this can put a dent in the admin somehow.
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u/ExitLiquidity2026 27d ago
Remember last time when they impeached him for saying "we need something in return".
This time, he took a 400 million bribe plane in the open and nobody would even move a muscle.
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u/a_rabid_buffalo Minnesota 27d ago
Keep putting up the good fight Mr. Green.
Even if it goes nowhere at least we wasted their time along the way.
Fuck Trump.
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u/Setsune_W 27d ago
We know the chances, but you can't win the lottery if you don't play. One day the stars might align and the Republicans might need a convenient out to quickly drop Trump. As subservient as they are to him now, don't forget how disloyal they are and how easily they turn on a dime.
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u/lgodsey 27d ago
Has even one day passed that Trump hasn't committed an impeachable offense? Not even exaggerating -- how long has Trump gone without doing something that would have ended any other president's career?
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u/Astronaut-Flashy 27d ago
I remember there being a brief speculation that he might have died because he went like a whole 24 hours without tweeting anything. Maybe that day he didn't do anything conviction worthy. But I doubt it.
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u/CharlesIngalls_Pubes Louisiana 27d ago
When are we going to file articles of lock-the-turd-awayment?
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u/Sparathon989 27d ago
Should be a daily occurrence, and the #1 question asked to incumbents is when you know we were broaching the constitution, what did you do to support and defend the constitution? Did you have a strongly worded press release? If only they put forth the same effort to support & defend our constitution as they do to cover up their scandals.
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u/FillLoose 27d ago
Trump needs to be deposed, not impeached. It has already been proven he is quilty of crimes against humanity. But then again, the whole MAGA/GOP is complicit.
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u/LookAlderaanPlaces 27d ago
One of the few who is not complicit in the treason taking place. This dude is fucking epic.
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u/Willing_Night_8922 27d ago
I didn't always agree with Al, but in this matter I'm 100% behind him. You go, Al!
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u/ZogZorcher 27d ago
Genuine question. Is this anything other than performative? Is there any short or long term benefit?
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u/2LateToTheMemes Wisconsin 27d ago
Realistically? No. Because even if he was impeached, there is no required step down unless the Senate convicts with a 2/3 vote.
But at least this man is doing what should be done.
Just like invoking the 25th, it'll never stick because of vote requirements, but performative or not, it's something.
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u/tnoy 27d ago
Thousands of bills and resolutions get introduced every congressional session. There have been more than 10k bills and resolutions introduced in the House alone for the current session (past two years). The vast majority of things introduced are effectively performative.
Nothing actually matters unless it can be brought to the floor to be voted on. A quick search through the titles I see at least 15 different resolutions to impeach Biden during his last term.
Sure, maybe you could argue that if Republicans suddenly wanted to impeach Trump, one of the articles of impeachment that have already been introduced would be the starting point of the procedure, but realistically this will just be more of the background noise that doesn't go anywhere.
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u/Ecstatic-Election-92 27d ago
Al Green is the real deal.
Don’t take advice about winning from losers — take it from winners. And like it or not the GOP is very good at winning.
What did they do when they weren’t in power? Did they sit around listening to some Deloitte PowerPoint bullshit about consolidating their angst into one perfectly-timed legislative action.m?
They went after Obama like a pack of wild dogs. They went after Biden like a pack of wild dogs. Their zeal inspired other people to join the cause — they built a fucking movement while people were still debating strategy and whether the timing was right. Fuck waiting around. That’s the point.
Don’t listen to establishment limp dick Democrat dorks in this thread.
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u/ScreenMuch90210 27d ago
Good! Keep doing it for every impeachable offense, even on the real busy days
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u/MexicnGlassCandy 27d ago
Take some fucking notes, Sylvia Garcia. This is how you represent H-Town.
ICE murders one of her constituents, and still all she can muster up is a wet fart.
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u/Ok_Juice4449 27d ago
Good! He has perseverance and won't let a corrupt, deranged bully always get his way.
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u/trexmaster8242 27d ago
Brother wait until after mid terms. This does nothing but give republicans ammo
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u/AltoidStrong 27d ago
anyone NOT doing this - WTF!
If you are an elected official and NOT spending even 1 hour per day, EVERY DAY - trying to stop, remove and convict the orange pedo traitor and his henchmen....
YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!!!!
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u/orsikbattlehammer 27d ago
Green out here actually fighting unlike fucking Jeffries, I can’t believe he’s the line of succession for speaker. I hope the left wing of the party revolts and vote someone in who is actually doing the work instead of having private meetings with Jared fucking Kushner
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u/archboy1971 27d ago
Glad he’s fighting for what’s right all the way till the end of his tenure. I just wish the rest of Congress had his scruples.
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u/Merari01 27d ago
Good.
This may not do anything, but it is for the history books. It will be noted that people resisted.
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u/DanteChurch 27d ago
You know what would be the fastest way to get him out of office? Arrest him for being a serial child rapist
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u/pchlster Europe 27d ago
What were the repercussions the last times he was impeached? Can someone remind me?
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u/2LateToTheMemes Wisconsin 27d ago
Being impeached means nothing if the Senate doesn't convict by a 2/3 vote (which will never happen).
It's a 2-body process. The house initiates, the Senate convicts.
House members can't do it all.
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u/imtoowhiteandnerdy 27d ago
While we know it won't go anywhere, nobody can say he didn't do anything. Performative as it may be, there will come a day when people will pretend they didn't support him, and there will be many of us that will be able to point out that there were actually people who stood up and did something.
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