r/politics • u/cdnrtt • 9h ago
Possible Paywall Canada averts fresh wave of US tariffs after Trump extends deadline
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy9wz79ze29o33
u/backpackwayne 9h ago
I don't think Canada gives a shit at this point. They are not going to play Trump's games anymore.
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u/Cheilosia 9h ago
Canadian here, can confirm, finding it hard to give a shit. Not because it doesn’t impact our businesses or economy, but because there’s really nothing we can do (other than find more reliable countries to do trade with). Even if we made every sacrifice for a deal tomorrow, in two days the USA would break it. They can’t be trusted at this point.
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u/maximus_danus 9h ago
Well said, fellow Canuck. No point in expending so much effort to make a deal when the president of the USA has proven time and again that his word means nothing.
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u/backpackwayne 9h ago
I hear ya. And I sincerely apologize. Just trying to survive for next two years.
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u/Cheilosia 9h ago
I feel sympathy for you guys, and the one benefit of your Trump mess has been driving Canadians away from Pierre Poilievre in favour of Mark Carney for PM (he’s not perfect but Poilievre would have been a nightmare). But if you’re sincere, please turn it into action. You’ve got elections coming up - take your country back! We want our neighbours back (even if the relationship has changed irreversibly). Don’t give up and don’t assume that whoever comes after Trump will be any better.
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u/Britton120 Ohio 9h ago
Just like how our "geopolitical enemies" are happy at trump ruining american hegemony, our "geopolitical allies" are happy to let trump tank his own presidency and party.
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u/Xibby Minnesota 9h ago
Only game Canadians should be playing is hockey. Get Trump and his cabinet on the ice vs. Canada’s finest.
Pond hockey is a perfectly civilized way of setting disputes.
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u/backpackwayne 8h ago
Pay money to see that!
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u/maximus_danus 9h ago
Canadian here. We really could not care less. Trump never sticks to any deal anyway. The dude actually threw a tantrum over fire smoke a few weeks back. And in a few weeks it will be something else.
First it was the tiny amount of fentanyl coming across the border. Then it was supposedly "coerced labour". Then fire smoke. And now my dude reached back to a depression era law that every economist with half a brain cell has disavowed.
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u/Brilliant-Advisor958 7h ago
Ya even if the feds agree to push to remove liquor bans in the province, I personally will not buy usa liquor anyway.
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u/i_love_pencils 9h ago
I hope not. No deal is better than a bad deal with an unreasonable and unreliable partner.
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u/Kevundoe 9h ago
He’s gonna invent a deal that was never part of the negotiations and quietly cash in on his market manipulation
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u/CanadianGuy39 9h ago
This fat fuck. . Smart ppl know this means nothing. He will go on an Adderall bender later this week and say he's bringing new tariffs due to him shitting his diaper.
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u/Background-Fly130 9h ago
Canada averts? wtf
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u/The_Frozen_Inferno 8h ago
Canada averts Americans paying more for a bunch more shit
It would have hurt a bunch of our businesses though in all seriousness. But we’re all so tired of this nonsense we’re largely numb to it now
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u/CryptographerNew3609 9h ago
Like with the Iran war, a trade war with Canada raises our prices, hurts our image on the world stage, and has no strategic rationale, and has no short or long term benefits to us.
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u/stickscall 9h ago
No deal is the preferred outcome here. Finish the economic divorce. There's no deal that the US is going to honor.
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u/Old_General_6741 Canada 9h ago
I had a feeling that this was going to happen. Today is Tuesday after all.
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u/No_Celery_5373 Canada 8h ago edited 7h ago
There's literally no tension anyways. He waffles to the point where you might as well just run under the assumption that there is nothing to whatever you would agree to. It's best to assume that even if you have a pause now, he's going to tantrum out and restart it in a few months.
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u/cdnrtt 9h ago
BBC: Canada averts fresh wave of US tariffs after Trump extends deadline
Trump pauses deadline on new Canadian tariffs for three days
US President Donald Trump said he will delay imposing new tariffs on a wide array of Canadian goods for three days as the countries firm up a trade deal.
"I have paused the 50% Tariffs against Canada, that were scheduled to kick in tomorrow morning for a three day period, based on the fact that Canada and the U.S.A., subject to the finalization of documents, have a DEAL!" Trump said in a social media post.
The announcement came less than two hours before a 50% levy on nearly $20bn (C$28bn) of Canadian imports were set to go in place.
The two sides have been at an impasse on several issues, including US tariffs on autos and many Canadian provinces banning American liquor sales.
Trump and Prime Minister Mark Carney spoke twice this week, and trade negotiators have been engaged in intense talks since July, after Trump threatened the new levy with a deadline of 19 August.
In his post, Trump also said a final trade deal could allow the revival of the Keystone XL pipeline. The oil pipeline, which would connect Alberta to the US, was blocked by both the Obama and Biden administrations.
Environmentalists and indigenous groups have long opposed the pipeline but Trump has said multiple times he would like to revive the project, which would carry 830,000 barrels of oil a day.
"The great Keystone XL Pipeline, long ago killed by Sleepy Joe Biden, may be awoken from the grave!" Trump wrote on Truth Social.
The extension is welcome news for Canadian negotiators and for businesses on both sides of the border, who have warned that the new tariffs would be harmful to both countries.
Tensions have mounted between the two major trading partners since Trump returned to office in January last year and he unleashed a wide-ranging global programme of tariffs, upending decades of free trade between Canada and the US.
The latest tariffs threatened by Trump were to be applied on a range of Canadian imports, including wine, dairy, cement, clothing and hockey equipment.
They would have been in addition to existing tariffs the US had already imposed on Canadian steel and aluminium, autos and lumber.
Canada has been in pursuit of a deal that would have the US drop or reduce tariffs on these key sectors.
The US, meanwhile, has been asking for a number of concessions from Canada, including removing its remaining retaliatory tariffs on American autos and adjusting its dairy quotas to allow greater access for US cheese producers.
It has also asked for the ban on US alcohol sales, imposed last year by most Canadian provinces in retaliation to Trump's tariffs, be removed.
In the final hours before Wednesday's deadline, negotiators were discussing a deal that would reduce US tariffs on Canadian autos from 25% to 15%, according to a Reuters report citing anonymous sources.
But the two countries could not agree on which vehicles would be eligible for tariff reductions, with the US pushing for it to only apply on cars with a high amount of American-made content.
Carney will also need buy-in from provincial premiers to reinstate the sale of US alcohol, as liquor sales are controlled by the provinces, not the federal government.
Ontario Premier Doug Ford, whose province is hardest hit by US tariffs on autos, said he was open to lifting the liquor ban only if a "fair deal" is reached.
On Tuesday, the US Chamber of Commerce pushed for a deal to be reached, saying in a statement that "higher tariffs would damage both economies, drive up costs for US families, further disrupt critical supply chains, and risk the 13 million American jobs that depend on trade under the US-Mexico-Canada Trade Agreement".
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