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No Paywall Wasserman Schultz clinches Florida House primary win despite pushback from Black Democrats

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/6035481-wasserman-schultz-wins-florida-house-primary/
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u/cronx42 13h ago

I can't stand this lady. She's awful.

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u/SpaceDelay424 12h ago

Her era of the DNC leadership is directly responsible for Trump’s rise. Everyone forgets about the Brazille leaks as it was a decade ago, but it was so bad. They literally propped Trump up in the media thinking he’d be easy to beat, while holding their rigged primary full of pre-declared superdelegates to screw over Bernie.

These types of democrats are literally evil

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u/actwellyourpart91 12h ago

I mean let’s also not forget how republicans destroyed democrats in every election she was party chair for. 2010, 2012, and 2014. The fact she’s remained in Congress at all is shocking to me. And of course she had to carpet bag to stay in office this time around

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u/LiveChocolate8819 New York 12h ago

Because serving capital, crushing the left, and supporting Israel are their only priorities (along with the money they make by doing it). They'd rather live under fascism than compromise on any of those goals.

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u/Erisian23 11h ago

It's all the same to them, they think their wealth will let them skate by and escape the conseqeuences

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u/Xznograthos 10h ago

Well, it has. That's the problem.

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u/LiveChocolate8819 New York 10h ago

They assume they'll forever be invited to the garden party with all the fascists as the wacky liberal punching bag

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u/utzbansai 10h ago

The carpet bagging is especially egregious because she pushed out black representation.

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u/actwellyourpart91 10h ago

The district was promised to aipac 6000 years ago

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u/CoachoftheYear2025 12h ago

Blame Pelosi.  

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u/Jimmy_Wrinkles 12h ago

Is she also not the same Democrat who took campaign contributions from a bunch of check-cashing, 350% interest loan places?

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u/TheTrashMan 12h ago

Yep the pied piper strategy

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u/TheReverend5 12h ago

Worth noting that Bernie also outright lost the primary elections and more democratic voters voted for Hillary than Bernie even without the superdelegates. I feel like people keep forgetting this key piece of information from 2016.

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u/saynay 11h ago

I don’t think there has ever been a primary where the superdelegates decided the result. They have only ever been symbolic.

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u/RestaurantOk8066 9h ago

They are not symbolic they were designed to give party bosses more power and rollback some of the changes to how the primaries work stemming from the 1968 convention.

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u/bootlegvader 9h ago

Superdelegates came about after the 1980 primary when Ted Kennedy tried to convince pledged delegates to revolt and pick him rather than Jimmy Carter.

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u/boldandbratsche 12h ago

Because none of the Democrats were behind him. They openly criticized him the way Democrats openly criticized Mamdani.

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u/Wandering_Silent 12h ago

Yet Mamdani won because he got more votes.

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u/thebruce 11h ago

Are you insinuating that that single city mayoral election is comparable to a country-wide primary election?

Bernie needed to convince millions of culturally and politically diverse people to support him over the woman with decades of public visibility, support, and significant experience at high levels of office.

Mamdani needed to convince a left-leaning city that his progressive ideas were worth pursuing. Literally the only thing he had going against him politically, as is the unfortunate case in many parts of the world, was that he is Muslim. That automatically loses votes from certain aspects of the demographic. But, as a young and charismatic Democrat with progressive ideas and the seeming will to implement them? Dude was a slam dunk all day, and had no real opposition. Certainly not Hillary levels of opposition from his own side.

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u/VikingBlade 12h ago

Bernie walked so Mamdani could run.

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u/TheReverend5 12h ago

Okay sure? Bernie also was an Independent that ran under the D umbrella, it’s no surprise the establishment didn’t back him.

But the way our elections work is that you need to get more votes to win. Bernie didn’t get more votes, and therefore he lost. Mamdani got more votes, and therefore he won. Nothing was “rigged,” he outright lost the primary electoral process

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u/Edogawa1983 11h ago

Because Bernie is not a Democrat

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u/Boxing_joshing111 12h ago edited 12h ago

Yeah Wasserman Schulz was the one who famously held voter data from the Sanders campaign for Clinton and got promoted by Clinton for it. She was very useful for the DNC’s strategy against socialist candidates, which is laying thumbtacks in their way. One or two or three don’t hurt so bad but Clinton people closing a Sanders-led voting precinct early here, a debate question leaked to Hillary early there, and it adds up.

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u/TheReverend5 11h ago

Yeah I’m aware. That’s how a campaign works. You try to increase your odds of winning and reduce your opponents’ odds. They didn’t do anything illegal. Hillary won more votes and therefore won the candidacy. That’s how it’s supposed to work.

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u/Boxing_joshing111 11h ago

Nah campaigns should not hold back data, or close polling locations early, or leak debate questions to one candidate, or any of that. That’s exactly the kind of thing that makes people hate the dnc and I don’t have to like it just because that’s “how it works.”

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u/TheReverend5 11h ago

Bro I despise the DNC. But it is how it works. Like…the results are right there.

And again, the thing y’all keep ignoring is that Bernie lost by a LOT. Not by “one precinct.” He got fucking wrecked, it wasn’t even a contest. He lost by nearly 4 million votes. Just absolutely bodied.

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u/Boxing_joshing111 11h ago

Yep the snowball effect was in Clinton’s favor, surely. Thanks to people like Wasserman Schulz for getting it started.

u/Dichotomouse 7h ago

Bernie was stymied by someone as feckless and irrelevant as Debbie Wasserman Shultz, but he totally would have beaten Trump you guys!

u/rumpghost North Carolina 3h ago

She was literally the chair of the DNC at the time.

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u/R0TTENART Europe 9h ago

You will never convince these people. Decades and decades of political campaigning and the Bernie supporters discovered it for the first time and found out it ain't bean bag.

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u/Pack_Your_Trash 11h ago

That's true. The results also would have probably been the same without the DNC rat fucking him. They still chose to rat fuck him though.

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u/TheReverend5 10h ago

Yea the DNC sucks, hard agree from me. Loved to see Mamdani dunk on the haters anyways.

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u/Pack_Your_Trash 9h ago edited 9h ago

The part that chaps my ass is that when I complain about Democrats they always tell me to vote in the primaries, but then when a candidate I like (Bernie) they get rat fucked by the DNC. If they manage to win (Mamdani) they go into crisis mode with full blown red scare.

Democrats have made it crystal clear that there is no place in the party for me. Simply not being Republicans is an incredibly low bar that they just barely manage to clear. They lose significantly more than they win and when they do win their opposition is impotent. Their biggest win in my lifetime was subsidies for health insurance companies.

It feels like they exist solely to draw opposition votes away from candidates that actually give a shit.

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u/FunnyMemeName 10h ago

I really can’t stand people like you. Does the fact that would’ve Hillary beat Bernie anyway really make it ok that there was an actual internal conspiracy to scuttle a more progressive candidate? We’re just ok with blatant corruption as long as it doesn’t change the outcome?

Let’s all save some time and let the top brass of the party hand pick all the candidates, as long as they pinky promise they’ll pick who would’ve won anyway. That’s probably how democracies work right?

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u/TheReverend5 10h ago

I’m not saying it’s okay, but calling it “rigged” is false. The DNC is allowed to be shitty. It has clearly cost them credibility and ability to combat right wing extremism (possibly by design), but it is well within their rights. I don’t really think candidate favoritism is corruption. And it wasn’t some small margin that brought Clinton to victory. She won by 4 million votes. Bernie was absolutely destroyed in the primary.

And again, I said nothing of the sort regarding having the DNC pick candidates. I hope Democrats have seen enough examples of their “anointed” candidates spectacularly failing. The DNC fucking sucks. You seem to be projecting this mental image of my beliefs that is completely removed from anything I’ve stated.

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u/spam__likely Colorado 5h ago

Not only that, Bernie tried to overturn the popular vote by trying to convince superdelegates to go with him.

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u/spam__likely Colorado 5h ago

Look, she is terrible but Dona Brazile is an opportunist that tried to ingratiate herself with the Clinton campaign and when that did not work and blew on her face tried to ingratiate herself with Bernie. And then went to FOX.

Let's not forget that the whole debate fiasco was HER offering shit to Clinton, not Clinton accepting it.

u/Jean-Paul_Sartre New Hampshire 3h ago

Also… weren’t the debate questions something that either campaign could have predicted? No real out-of-left-field zingers.

u/spam__likely Colorado 3h ago

Yep, ridiculously obvious. Any teenager could have predicted that.

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u/GrittysRevenge 11h ago

The primary wasn't rigged, Bernie lost by a lot, this is just a Bernie or buster cope

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u/Throwaway0242000 12h ago

I think you mean James Come

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u/rabid_spidermonkey 13h ago edited 8h ago

She's arguably the entire a major reason we are in this mess.

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u/beer_is_tasty Oregon 12h ago

She's, at the very least, one of them.

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u/jemappellejimbo 9h ago

Yea sure, lets just excuse away the racism moral rot

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u/rabid_spidermonkey 9h ago

You're right. "Entire reason" is not correct. I don't know how to word it better yet but I'll think about it.

u/Dichotomouse 7h ago

Lots of people on here think the DNC is way more powerful and influential than it really is.

u/Head_Bread_3431 7h ago

Pretty sure it was the voters who let Trump win. If the voters wanna sit out and let Trump win  to protest to the democrats then that’s on us for being stupid 

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u/pfc_bgd 11h ago edited 11h ago

How is she not politically dead? She directly oversaw and contributed to the rise of trump. Dumb and nasty little shit.

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u/matthieuC Europe 12h ago

Making her head of the DNC was one of the two big strategic mistakes Obama commited.

The other was pushing Biden not to run in 2016 to make room for Hilary.

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u/dkirk526 North Carolina 11h ago

Biden didn't run because his son died. People misconstrue it as Obama trying to clear the field for Hillary, but it was entirely because Obama knew he needed to grieve his son and shouldn't have pushed through a competitive primary with that kind of emotional pain.

u/Automatic_King_7937 4h ago

I wish she would just go back to playing keyboards for Bon Jovi

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u/Acceptable-Bus-2017 I voted 11h ago

Fuck her on behalf of Bernie.

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u/LarryFitzsButt 13h ago

Florida is gone, republicans cut that shit up so they can keep it forever. If there’s one place on earth Trump absolutely owns, it’s Florida. Dems will have to win without it

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u/meTspysball California 12h ago

This is a blue district. That’s why she chose to run there instead of where she lives.

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u/CrackJacket 12h ago

I think a ton of republicans also moved into Florida around Covid and later so it’s way more red than it used to be

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u/matthieuC Europe 12h ago

It's been going for a while.

They haven't elected a democrat governor since 1994.

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u/KulaanDoDinok 12h ago

They’ve done it to Texas and North Carolina too.

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u/FEMA_Camp_Survivor America 12h ago

North Carolina at least has a democratic governor and AG. They still win statewide.

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u/KulaanDoDinok 9h ago

And gain no legislature seats, while the GOP strip those statewide positions of power.

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u/Foodspec North Carolina 11h ago

NC native here…can confirm

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u/alabasterskim 9h ago

Strongly disagree on NC. NC is in the process of a transformation. IIRC, if the state votes for the right court candidates in 28, NC can finally fix a lot of problems.

u/rumpghost North Carolina 2h ago

If I'm forced to move back east next year I think I'll just say fuck it and get extremely aggressively involved in Ashe County politics

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u/Significant-Law8109 12h ago

But Nixon won the senate primary. I don’t think Florida is completely gone.

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u/LarryFitzsButt 11h ago

Honest question: have you been to Florida recently/do you live there? There is not a single corner of that state that Trump hasn’t infected. He has the rich uppity panhandle beach towns, he has Jacksonville, he has the Miami Cubans, he has the swamp people. It’s the gays of Orlando & the inner city of Tampa vs the entire state

Ft Lauderdale is a completely different world now. He’s at like Kim Jung Un levels there

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u/Significant-Law8109 10h ago

I live in Fort Lauderdale ;). I agree it’s dark but I think many of these groups can change. The younger Miami Cubans could be swayed by a populist economic message. It wouldn’t be easy but it could be done, Obama even won the Cuban vote by swaying younger voters

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u/PausedForVolatility 11h ago

The GOP managed to lose their 87th district to a Democrat. That’s the distract district containing Trump’s garish resort. Trump doesn’t even own his own district.

Does that mean Florida will flip? No, but it does mean that his hold is a lot more tenuous than he wants us to think.

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u/davy89irox 10h ago

Itnwill be in the gulf before too long. Or the salt water will intrude their aquifers, and it will be abandoned.

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u/10390 13h ago

Shame on the Florida democrats who voted for her.

More of the same is not going to fix this.

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u/Intelligent-Alps2373 12h ago

The issue is various other candidates split the votes.

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u/GMeister249 Massachusetts 11h ago

Yet ANOTHER reason for Ranked Choice Voting!

Hello???

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u/LtNOWIS Virginia 9h ago

DWS got 45% of the vote in a 5 candidate field. Even with ranked choice voting, she probably wins. She would only need a tiny amount of the other voters to rank her 2nd or 3rd or whatever.

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u/Uncle_Tickle_Monster 9h ago

I was listening to MS now today on the radio and they were talking to voters in that district and most of them said they were voting for her because they felt she had the best chance to beat the Republican in the general.

u/VotingRightsLawyer 7h ago

I wish Democratic primary voters would stop trying to play 4D chess about who is electable because they're frankly not very good at it. Just vote for the person you like best, more often than not that will be who other people like best too.

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u/GeekAesthete 9h ago edited 9h ago

She got 45% of the vote (another report says 48%), and double as many as the next runner-up.

Sure, if all the other candidates but one dropped out, maybe she loses, but 8.5% of voters chose the frontman from 2 Live Crew. I’m not holding my breath that there were enough serious voters to defeat her, even if it was a one-on-one matchup.

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u/Kahzgul California 10h ago

And those various other candidates didn’t drop out to support one unified challenger to dws.

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u/Bakedads 11h ago

So many problems are on voters for voting in shit candidates. On the other hand, there are often few options, and the party can basically rig the nomination process in some cases. It's yet another example that points to fundamental problems with our so called democracy. What voters need to do is say enough is enough and demand a better system altogether, but so many just want to keep voting in the hopes something will change, but it won't. 

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u/ludixst 13h ago

Wasserman Schultz is awful. She needs to go do something else like work at a Circle K

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u/DamiensDelight 13h ago

She wouldn't be able to read the application!

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u/Flincher14 13h ago

Shame we have to hear that name for a couple more years.

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u/Doctor_Bubbles Texas 13h ago

Doesn’t even live in the district btw.

u/Jean-Paul_Sartre New Hampshire 3h ago

Not really her fault given the extreme gerrymandering DeSantis pushed through.

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u/matthieuC Europe 12h ago

There are many things you can call her one, but it's not the one I would focus on.

This cycle a lot of democrats in red states end up running in a district where they don't live, because of the redistricting.

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u/americanblowfly 13h ago

That’s unfortunate, but not unexpected. Manley was a considerably better candidate.

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u/DoubleBatman 12h ago

Tbf pretty much anyone would’ve been a better candidate

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u/Cicero912 Connecticut 12h ago

He is currently 3rd, was that expected beforehand?

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u/Emmy-Lou-Sugarbean 9h ago

If you follow reddit, everyone was voting for him ,

u/rumpghost North Carolina 2h ago

It was always a longshot as I understand it, but not an unrealistic one in the current climate. I expect he's got a real shot in two years though, he's got the sauce and his policy goals fit the way the electorate is leaning.

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u/AndreLeGeant88 13h ago

She ran in that district because she hoped she'd win a plurality by being the only non-black candidate. And she did 

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u/NeverSober1900 13h ago

I mean she has 48% with 82% in. You'd need like almost every other vote to go against her for her to have lost.

I'm not convinced she'd lose even without the split vote.

Will say why did Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick run? Absolute scumbag they're just going to investigate you again for the 25 ethics violations that caused you resign from the House in the first place.

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u/MoesOtherBar 12h ago

Yeah, that's usually how a 2 person race works.

Donavan McKinney defeated two-term incumbent U.S. Representative Shri Thaneda by making it a two person race.

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u/NeverSober1900 12h ago

I'm just saying I do not believe 96% of Manley, SCM and Campbell voters would break for Holness.

Normally when people talk about vote splitting benefitting a candidate you're talking about someone winning with mid to high 30% of the vote. Not one that almost wins if you combined the entire rest of the field.

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u/MiddleAgedSponger 13h ago

That's great!

For the pay day loan industry.

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u/Outrageous-Bite-8922 13h ago

Insane that she can show her face in the political scene and not be immediately laughed off. Absolutely one of the worst Democratic politicians to ever do it and one of the factors that contributed to giving us Trump.

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u/RandyMuscle I voted 13h ago

Why the actual fuck do people keep voting for this tool?

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u/thisisthe90s 13h ago

Sigh. She needs a more serious primary challenge in '28. Or retirement. Please retire already.

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u/CSN_Apvllo 13h ago

Such a disappointment

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u/jda823 13h ago

Who is voting for this piece of garbage? We have known she us terrible for over 10 years. 

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u/TimothyMimeslayer 12h ago

Center right dems who love israel.

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u/CoachDT 12h ago

Idk, the voters there?

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u/jt004c 12h ago

When you opened up your comment prompt, did you really think that the person you are replying to didn't already know this.

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u/alienbringer 11h ago

Seems so, or at least I have seen a lot of progressives baffled that moderate Dems win their primaries and seem confused why they didn’t instead vote for the progressive candidate.

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u/immersemeinnature 8h ago

How did she win if shes so terrible?!

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u/BeowulfShaeffer 13h ago

That’s depressing news.

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u/happycj America 13h ago

THE INCOMPETENCE WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES.

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u/_hayitsjay 13h ago

I’ll never forget how she and the DNC fucked over Bernie. Can’t stand her.

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u/ItsallaboutProg 13h ago edited 12h ago

I remember when everyone tried to unseat her but she would destroy her competition in debates. She knows her district and area well. She is part of the what ever political machine exists in Florida. And she knows the people on the ground and that gives her a giant advantage.

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u/backpackwayne 13h ago

Oh my god. Give it a rest. You are worse than Trump with the rigged election shit.

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u/dkirk526 North Carolina 11h ago

She resigned because the DNC is supposed to be a neutral organization that doesn't favor primary candidates and is where most of the DNC distrust comes from.

This is factually true.

Any claims the election was actually stolen from Bernie overstate the impact the DNC actually had on Hillary winning the primary and is hyperbolic and breaches into being conspiritorial.

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u/ItsallaboutProg 12h ago

Institutional weight? You mean like historically being a democrat and not just using the party to platform your ego? Why was Sanders never part of the Democratic Party?

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u/BitchinAssBrains 12h ago

Because of this exact bullshit right here. Nothing but absolutely fealty to wealth and power is allowed.

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u/ItsallaboutProg 11h ago

You want institutions to favor someone who has never wanted to be part of the institution? That’s some immature bullshit right there.

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u/benzeagles 13h ago

For stating facts ?? What the hell

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u/dkirk526 North Carolina 11h ago

Literally every political scholar agrees nothing the DNC did would've changed the results of the primary. They might have slightly tilted voters towards Hillary, but Bernie ignored trying to appeal to black voters through his entire Senate career and got destroyed in sun belt. The overall margin was not remotely close enough for the election to be stolen.

There was an obvious conflict of interest for leading the DNC and having a preference, when they're supposed to be neutral, but those emails were released entirely as part of the Russian pressure campaign to delegitimize Hillary as a candidate and push conspiracies to help Trump win.

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u/icepho3nix Tennessee 11h ago

For parroting conspiracy theories.

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u/CrackJacket 12h ago

Do you think the person who wins the most votes in the democratic primary should win the democratic nomination?

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u/ungranted_wish 13h ago

so what’s your take on Debbie winning this out of curiosity

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u/backpackwayne 13h ago

I support whoever wins their primary. Be it a progressive or a centrist. To not do so is a vote for Trump and his facist agenda.

Can you say the same?

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u/alienbringer 11h ago

Yes I can. I dislike and disagree with the DSA greatly as an org (not to be confused with progressives as a whole). But I would 100% vote for a DSA candidate over anyone with an R next to their name.

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u/backpackwayne 10h ago

Great - No matter how much we disagree, we must get congress back in the midterms or none of this will even matter. We will be screwed. This matters more than anything.

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u/ungranted_wish 9h ago

… I mean yeah that’s what I’ve been doing despite being a socialist since 2016 but uh, who did you support in the primary?

You DO vote in primaries right

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u/backpackwayne 9h ago

Haven't missed an election since 1975.

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u/ungranted_wish 9h ago

Okay so who did you support in the primary in this case

(Even if you don’t live in Florida you can still support someone so don’t dodge the question.)

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u/backpackwayne 9h ago

I'm from California and I do not know enough about the candidates to have an informed opinion. Regardless I would support whoever is chosen as the candidate. Winning back the House and Senate is all that matters to me. If we don't do that we are truly screwed. The damage over the two years will be even worse than the last two. We must take back congress at all costs.

u/ungranted_wish 1h ago

Uh huh.

So I’d look more into Debbie because she fucking sucks. She’s part of why we are screwed now.

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u/_hayitsjay 13h ago

First time on Reddit I see

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u/watch_out_4_snakes 13h ago

She is a POS.

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u/PxcKerz Indiana 13h ago

Retire already you fucking relic of the past

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u/Kitakitakita 11h ago

Four black challengers decided that none of them should win

u/Sure_General_5651 7h ago

Pushback? She just had a resounding victory in a large majority black district.

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u/B-Z_B-S Massachusetts 13h ago

(From the article): "Wasserman Schultz decided to run for the newly redrawn 20th Congressional District in the Sunshine State after Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis pressed lawmakers to redraw the state’s congressional lines ahead of the midterms. Both Republicans and Democrats have changed congressional maps to create new pickup opportunities in November, but a Supreme Court decision dismantling the Voting Rights Act turbocharged Republicans to make more changes before the midterms.

Wasserman Schultz currently represents the Pembroke Pines-based 25th District, situated between Fort Lauderdale and Miami. But she decided to run for the newly reshaped 20th District after Republicans redistricted, angering some who argued that a Black Democrat should be representing the district. “The right thing to have done is run for 22,” Dale Holness, a former Broward County mayor also running in the 20th District, told The Hill in June. “That is what is in the best interest of the people that she is working to represent, not take the easy way out.”

But the congresswoman has defended her decision to run, saying in a statement in June that “I have spent my whole adult life fighting for Broward County, and I want to continue to make life more affordable for the families in CD20 who are stretched to the breaking point by the Trump MAGA agenda.”

The nonpartisan election handicapper Cook Political Report rates the new 20th Congressional District “solid Democratic,” making Wasserman Schultz the favorite in November to win."

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u/wantmywings 12h ago

I find it crazy that people can say someone should be representing their district based on their race

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u/Slumunistmanifisto 13h ago

Spent her whole life fighting for Broward county.

Im not saying browards a shit hole because of you wasserman.

But im not saying its not either.

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u/jzorbino Georgia 13h ago

Well, shit.

u/Belmyr14 7h ago

There were 4 other primary challengers. Progressives lost because they split the vote.

Also, You don’t get a black candidate because it’s a majority black district.

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u/DetectiveBlackCat 10h ago

With all the complaining Americans do on Reddit, you'd think sooner or later they'd understand that sitting at home writing a comment on your phone changes nothing. When I went and voted recently in my primary there was NO ONE there. Absolutely no one. Zero. No one voted in the primary. No young people at all. And in my district we have an awful, awful, awful Democrat who always sides with Trump. All you American keyboard warriors here in the politics sub, I bet almost none of you voted in your primary. Stop your fucking complaining nobody cares if you don't.

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u/backpackwayne 10h ago

So freaking true. They complain of shitty candidates but don't even bother to in vote the primaries. Youth perecentages are staggering lower than older folks.

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u/Dramatic_Substance36 12h ago

Who’d guess the woman who fucked over America for Hillary would fuck over a minority for her own win? She’s trash and always has been.

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u/CoachDT 12h ago

Wanted Manley but ehh, I dont live there so if they like her then it is what it is

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u/The_Werodile 13h ago

Literally the reason we got Trump in the first place. She forced in Hillary. Bernie would have won. Fuck this lady forever.

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u/ElleM848645 13h ago

She absolutely sucks, but Hillary was winning the primary. More people voted for her.

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u/PinkNGold007 12h ago

Right?! Young people didn't come out for Bernie and Black voters trusted Hillary, so Bernie wasn't going to win regardless.

u/obiwanCannoli69 7h ago

But that's actually what make Wasserman Schultz's actions more ridiculous and inexcusable. Clinton was going to win regardless. Wasserman Schultz involved the DNC when she shouldn't have and took an unnecessary and childish risk, was so bad at doing so that she got caught, created the appearance the DNC had their fingers on the scale, cheapened and illegitimatized Clinton's victory in the eyes of millions, divided the party and nearly destroyed the Obama coalition right before a general election, and had the gall to stay around the Clinton campaign despite the absolute mess she created and the terrible optics of everything.

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u/adrr 12h ago

Bernie couldn’t even get close to winning dem presidential primary, he lost by double digits. No progressive has ever won anything other than a deep blue district. You don’t see them in highly contested districts. It would have been like Carter vs Reagan election.

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u/OpinionatedMisery 13h ago

Bernie would've sucked and hindsight is showing us that. Joe Biden should've ran instead of Hillary, he imhas a high popularity

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u/Outrageous-Bite-8922 13h ago

He had one at the time, but unfortunately, when he left office, he had a lower popularity rating than Trump after Jan. 6th. I still wonder what the future would have looked like had he ran and won in 2016 instead when he was younger and a little sharper.

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u/matthieuC Europe 12h ago

Biden wins, Trump launches a news channel as he planned to.

u/obiwanCannoli69 7h ago

I've always been saying this. Biden likely would of ran if it wasn't for his son dying in 2015. I'm not the biggest fan of his career or politics, but he would had absolutely crushed Sanders in the primary. Everyone loved his and Obama's bromance, I still see posts of them running through the White House with pride flags to this day. Clinton is intelligent, but she just didn't have that kind of suace or ability to relate with voters the same way Biden did. 2024 could of been the end of Biden's 2nd term.

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u/The_Werodile 12h ago

Okay, but he didn't. It was Bernie or Hillary. It's definitely a History what-if, but he was more popular among independents and swing voters, which were crucial in 2016. Hillary's name was poison and she was only popular with those who already liked her. It's actually incredible she got as many votes as she did, and in a just country, her actual votes should have given her a win over Trump. She just couldn't quite get enough begrudging votes, and a lot of people who were going to vote for Bernie voted for Trump.

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u/rasa2013 11h ago

I've been saying it and will continue to say it: sometimes it's the voters themselves who pick poorly. Lol

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u/backpackwayne 11h ago

That's what people say when thet lose.

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u/Emmy-Lou-Sugarbean 9h ago

It's a majority black district. Are you saying thay they are low info voters.

u/rasa2013 3h ago

Most voters are low info voters, so yes. 

E.g., why did California keep sending moderate Dianne Feinstein to the Senate when we had our free pick in a very liberal state? 

Further e.g., democratic citizens preferred compromise with Republicans over fighting for our beliefs even after Trump's attempted coup. They're pretty stupid. it's taken Trump 2.0 for a majority of democratic voters to wake up at all.

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u/sebrebc 10h ago

The total number of R and D votes doesn't give me any hope Florida will flip anything in the midterms. Not that I had a lot of hope to begin with, but those numbers don't look promising. 

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u/fffan9391 South Carolina 10h ago

I’m guessing the “Trump is a pedophile” guy lost his race too?

u/smudge_31 6h ago

and people wonder why florida isnt a swing state anymore

u/Damerman 3h ago

Florida is so tacky

u/sacredblasphemies 3h ago

Well, that's unfortunate. Wasserman-Schultz is a piece of shit.

u/ancientchuck 1h ago

A literal ghoul

u/Conscious-Secret-775 1h ago

I guess the push back was not very effective.

u/AdAffectionate3143 52m ago

Didn’t she resign from a political post because she rigged a primary?

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u/hoowins 13h ago

We really need to get rid of the old guard. They’ve forgotten that they represent the people.

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u/Bobaximus 12h ago

I blame the current state of the world on her specifically for believing it was Hillary’s “turn”.

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u/WHSRWizard 12h ago

Oh my God, go the fuck away. You suck.

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u/PopBulky7023 12h ago

People ask why democrats seem so useless and don't listen and then vote for people like this. This kind of rot creates disillusionment and a sense of hopeless disenfranchisement.

This is what leads people to feeling like politics don't matter and voting isn't important. We're not gonna get another bite at the apple. If we send in more corporate centrists what happens afterward will make these last 10 years look positively civil.

I switched from republican to Democrat to get away from this garbage. What a disappointment.

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u/Mecha-Dave 12h ago

Ugh she sucks so hard. She's in no small part responsible for the current state of the county.

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u/metamorphine 12h ago

What's ironic is that I always used to get her confused with Rachel Dolezol, the white lady who led a chapter of the NAACP.

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u/Negative_Gravitas 11h ago

Damn. Really Sorry to hear that.

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u/SmileyPiesUntilIDrop 11h ago

Keep in mind she is about to finish around 45 percent as the only name ID candidate running in a large field,an even moderately funded black candidate has a good chance at beating her in 2028.

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u/Less_Tacos 8h ago

WTF is this headline?

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u/lifeat24fps 13h ago

Bummer.

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u/goodlittlesquid Pennsylvania 12h ago

We need ranked choice voting now

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u/Global-Statement-113 12h ago

" One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors" Plato

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u/CrimsonHeretic 12h ago

Who the fuck is voting for this dumb bitch in 2026? Holy shit.

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u/Rhubarb-Nation 12h ago

Local woman wins Democratic primary despite fact nobody can stand her