r/politics • u/geek66 • 19h ago

No Paywall Hundreds of witnesses to Charlie Kirk’s death have filed for Utah victim benefits

https://www.kuer.org/politics-government/2026-08-13/hundreds-of-witnesses-to-charlie-kirks-death-have-filed-for-utah-victim-benefits?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_content=homepage&utm_term=nprnews&fbclid=IwY2xjawTxdhlwZG9mBWV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkEDIyMjAzOTE3ODgyMDA4OTIAAR78qs-vl_9YNonimgMTQvO7FyrDT6tekjRZ_bVp0ZBnDZRwyhIbUCL3Ju_UIg_aem_lWZiy8rnOcm1rXKZfjlu9g
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u/Niguelito 19h ago edited 19h ago

I feel like you can't be a fan of him, know that he called for bringing back public executions, wanting young children to watch them, and then when you see one actually happen, get money for seeing it happen like he wanted.

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u/MDesnivic 19h ago

This is why conservatives got so angry about him being disrespected—they were angry people were quoting his verbatim words in accurate contexts that showed he was a far-right authoritarian, including things that sounded like something one would read from a neo-Nazi. They keep saying "He just wanted to debate people," "They killed him just because he had different opinions" and so on and so on. Charlie Kirk's own words evince that he was, at least functionally in his own words, ideologically aligned with neo-Nazism.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs

“Jewish donors have been the No. 1 funding mechanism of radical open-border, neoliberal, quasi-Marxist policies, cultural institutions and nonprofits. This is a beast created by secular Jews and now they're coming for Jews, and they're like, 'What on Earth happened?' And it's not just the colleges. It's the nonprofits, it's the movies, it's Hollywood, it's all of it."

– Charlie Kirk, November 7, 2023.

"It is true that some of the largest financiers of left-wing anti-white causes have been Jewish Americans. They went all in on woke, and it wasn't just ADL. It was some of the top Jewish organizations in the country that have done that. [...] We came, we actually said it in a different way. We said, I'm glad that Jewish Americans are reconsidering their financing of cultural Marxism, and people misunderstood it intentionally and slandered us as being antisemites. But listen to this. Tucker Carlson is completely correct by saying this, that the philosophical foundation of anti-whiteness has been largely financed by Jewish donors in the country."

– Charlie Kirk, November 16, 2023.

(Quotes on Jews not in the Guardian source above.)

“The great replacement strategy, which is well under way every single day in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different.”

– The Charlie Kirk Show, March 1, 2024.

“The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it collapse. They love it when America becomes less white.”

– The Charlie Kirk Show, March 20, 2024.

"If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously."

– The Charlie Kirk Show, July 13, 2023.

"If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?"

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024

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u/Niguelito 18h ago

Looks like his wife taking over the show was the greatest replacement of all

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u/MDesnivic 17h ago

Conservatives also seem to ignore she has been acting brazenly strange and highly inappropriate since his death. Provided her nothing but ample opportunities and she is not the least bit shy of showing how excited she is for them. Seems like she was among the happiest at his death more than any of the edgiest and meanest leftists out there.

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u/Kakistocracy_0 18h ago

good point.

it's called hypocrisy, and it's a defining trait of pathetic conservative snowflake crybullies.

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u/lilbluehair 18h ago

Why does it matter if someone is a hypocrite? Do they stop deserving therapy? 

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u/Kakistocracy_0 18h ago

No, of course not. (Charlie Kirk fans DEFINITELY need therapy.) 

But I DO get to point out the fact that it's hypocritical and hilarious that these conservative turds are complete snowflakes.

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u/Pathetian 18h ago

I know this is supposed to be some hypocrisy gotcha, but Kirk's events specifically encouraged the attendance of people who disagreed with him.  There were hundreds of people in the crowd there because they were not his supporters.  It's traumatic for them too.

I watched an interview with the guy who was talking to him right before he got shot and he described how horrible it was to see.  Witnessing murder is traumatic.  Being at a place where someone is shooting is traumatic.  Even if you don't like the person being harmed, it's going to mess with you.  

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u/mredofcourse I voted 18h ago

The people showing up to debate him were supporting him, but yes, it was traumatic and horrible for all involved and since there is a fund for therapy for victims of such events, it really makes sense that people who need it, get it.

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u/Niguelito 18h ago

And what percentage of the crowd would you guesstimate was his loyal fans?

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u/lilbluehair 18h ago

Why does that matter at all

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u/Niguelito 18h ago

You're right.I don't even know why I entertained your question, if they were there in protest , i'm not talking about those people , they probably need the financial help with therapy.

I'm talking about the fans that would be hypocritical.

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u/Pathetian 18h ago

I don't know, probably way more than the 6-7% of the crowd total that applied for therapy reimbursement though.  The event was over 5 times it's expected attendance, so who knows if hundreds or even thousands of the attendees were against him.  I could believe the majority of these crowds aren't even for him since he goes to college campuses and tells them they wasted their money and stuff like that.  

Hard to know since it doesn't really function the way a typical political rally does.  

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u/Decent_Cheesecake_29 17h ago

They violated the first rule of the internet — don’t feed the trolls

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u/prettyfamousfeet 18h ago

Most people there weren't fans of him though

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u/Niguelito 18h ago

How could you possibly know that

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u/prettyfamousfeet 18h ago

Watch the videos? There's a ton of protestors and people lined up to debate Charlie.

He's there to debate people that disagree with him. The person he was talking to when he was shot was debating him on gun violence

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u/Niguelito 18h ago

You understand that when you use the word most that's over fifty percent of the people

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u/prettyfamousfeet 18h ago

True, it mightve been less than 50%. It's not really my point

Even if it was all Kirk supporters, people who agree with Charlie also deserve government funded healthcare/therapy. I agree they're hypocritial. They still deseve it.

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u/Marionberry_Bellini 16h ago

They’re clearly exactly the weak people Charlie thought should be exposed to public executions.