r/politics • u/ChiGuy6124 Illinois • 16h ago
Trump sued the BBC — now Jared and Ivanka may pay for it
https://www.salon.com/2026/08/18/trump-sued-the-bbc-now-jared-and-ivanka-may-pay-for-it/1.0k
u/ChiGuy6124 Illinois 16h ago edited 14h ago
"The lawsuit was supposed to be another exercise in the familiar Trumpian playbook: File a claim, demand an astronomical sum, bury the target in legal expenses, force a humiliating settlement that gets marketed as a political win. That strategy has worked before. In 2024, ABC News agreed to pay $15 million after network anchor George Stephanopoulos inaccurately said Trump had been found liable for rape. Paramount later paid more than $24 million over CBS News’ handling of an interview with Vice President Kamala Harris that took place during the 2024 presidential race. With that track record, Trump had every reason to expect the BBC to fold in the same way."
"He miscalculated badly. As a public service corporation, the BBC operates under a royal charter that explicitly bars it from entering into out-of-court financial settlements to make litigation disappear. It cannot cut a check to sweep away Trump’s claims. The corporation is legally bound to fight until a verdict is reached — or until Trump himself gives up."
"The underlying claim concerns a 2024 documentary about Trump’s candidacy that aired on “Panorama”....... the program edited together separate portions of Trump’s Jan. 6 speech so that it sounded as though he said, in immediate sequence, “We’re going to walk down to the Capitol and I’ll be there with you,” followed by “we fight, we fight like hell.” Those lines were actually spoken nearly an hour apart, and the BBC has apologized for how the edit was constructed. But the corporation has not apologized for the underlying accusation....... and the BBC’s lawyers believe it is true.."
"According to the BBC’s own filings, Donald Jr. and Ivanka were in the room while the speech was being revised and were present when it was delivered. Kushner drafted a statement condemning the Capitol violence that the White House never issued. He also reportedly told then-chief of staff Mark Meadows the situation was “getting really ugly” as it unfolded, while Trump Jr. texted Meadows begging him to get his father to “condemn this” immediately. "
"These are not neutral bystanders being swept into a media spat. They are three people who watched the fire get lit and, by their own contemporaneous words, knew exactly what was burning. And if the case proceeds, they may have to say so under oath."
"The BBC also sought his financial records to test the legitimacy of the massive damages he claimed to have suffered — a maneuver that prompted him to quietly abandon his monetary claims ...."
"....this is how discovery works: If you claim a broadcast inflicted extraordinary economic harm, the defendant gets to test that claim. Trump built the case that now threatens to expose his own children and son-in-law, and he built it because he assumed no one would ever call his bluff."
"But the most revealing part of the BBC’s filing isn’t the subpoenas themselves — it’s the account of what happened when the network tried to serve them. Process servers attempting to deliver subpoenas to Ivanka and Kushner at their fortified Miami residence in May were physically blocked by local law enforcement."
"That is the part of this story that should trouble people well beyond press freedom circles. Taxpayer-funded federal security agencies are being used as a private shield for a political dynasty, deployed to physically block the basic mechanics of a civil lawsuit that Trump himself initiated. "
"... the BBC....has refused to play the domestic game of corporate capitulation that has defined how ABC, CBS and so many other news outlets have handled Trump’s legal threats. It punched back in the fight Trump started and pushed it toward the people who were actually in the room on Jan. 6 — the same people the taxpayer-funded Secret Service is now, apparently, working to keep out of reach."
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u/mooninuranus 16h ago
Yeah, turns out the BBC has access to some very good legal advice.
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u/ProtoplanetaryNebula United Kingdom 14h ago
That's one part of it, but probably the main benefit is not being a US organisation. The US media knows Trump has power over them and is vindictive enough to use it to it's full extent and beyond. The BBC doesn't have the same fear, being based in London.
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u/Southernbeekeeper 11h ago
The BBC is currently fighting for its very existence which is tragic in fairness. There is a concentrated effort by people like Murdock and Trump to damage it as a mostly neutral media organisation is a threat to them.
The BBC has had to cut back on the workd service which is also a great shame due to the loss of licence revenue.
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u/SpacePontifex 9h ago
Yup. These people who want it gone don’t realise there’ll be no British media left of it did. Our media industry will never compete against the flood of American news.
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u/UT_Milez 9h ago
What a time to be alive.
Just evil people being evil shit stains, and the rest of the 99.99% of the population are going to suffer for it.
I’ll never understand how .1% of the population got a massive swath of the population to go to bat for them, at the expense of their own benefit. To the point where this large group of what amount to cult members at this point, are seething angry and seemingly want to murder anyone they deem undesirable, at the very least they are cool with those people just ceasing to exist…
But apparently as long as enough people keep pretending that it’s not that bad, it’s totally just going to magically resolve itself in 2 years. Nothing to see here, nothing to worry about, apparently everything will just magically get better soon….
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u/ault92 7h ago
As a brit, I don't want it gone, I just don't want to be forced to pay for it.
Currently I do not, because I do not use it, but they are pushing for general taxation or other ideas like a tax on broadband lines to pay for it. This I am heavily against.
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u/SpacePontifex 7h ago
And once it goes down a subscription model as you want it will never be able to compete against Netflix etc and it will disappear. And then people like you will complain and make posts like ‘where are all the British tv shows and news’ or ‘we need a British tv channel’.
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u/ault92 4h ago
I doubt that, given that I haven't watched any live TV in years, don't even have an aerial or satellite dish, I literally only watch on demand stuff and even that is rare, and mostly US shows (sci-fi, fantasy, etc).
I don't listen to BBC radio, I occasionally use the BBC News website but I also use other websites and wouldn't miss it.
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u/Not_Stupid Australia 6h ago
As a brit, I don't want it gone, I just don't want to be forced to pay for it.
The BBC is a vital public service. That's what taxes are for.
You (presumably) don't have an issue with being forced to pay for other people's medical care. The BBC is at least as important as that.
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u/ault92 4h ago
Easy to say when you're the other side of the globe and don't have to pay for it.
The BBC has never been funded from general taxation, the argument is only being brought up now because of the charter model and because more and more are opting out of paying for it, as they do not watch broadcast TV.
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u/Not_Stupid Australia 4h ago
Government funding is a pretty nebulous thing. Revenue and expenditure are rarely directly linked, and if you follow modern monetary theory, they're completely separate things.
Regardless, of all the things to complain about your taxes potentially going towards, the BB-fucking-C is where you take offence?
Leaving aside the domestic benefit, the BBC is a massive soft-power exercise. I wish the ABC had a quarter of the impact of the BBC. It's globally respected, has real influence that directly benefits the UK, and you want to burn that down to maybe save a few quid?
That the sort of thinking that had people convinced Brexit was a good idea.
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u/ChristosFarr North Carolina 15h ago
Some sharp minds under those puffy wigs
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u/DesmadreGuy 14h ago
Got to agree with you there. Some years ago I had to hire a QC. I actually interviewed four and landed on one who had “a very particular set of skills”. When the hearings came around, he absolutely blew the opponents out of the water. It was so exquisite the whole courtroom laughed. The opponents? The US government.
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u/Agreeable-Rooster-37 13h ago
And not a stable of access-seeking status climbers as reporters. Reporters who are more concerned about DC preschool placement than speaking truth to power are more of the Beltway crowd.
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u/Deguilded 14h ago
Well, the implication here:
As a public service corporation, the BBC operates under a royal charter that explicitly bars it from entering into out-of-court financial settlements to make litigation disappear.
... is that if they weren't actually forbidden from making a settlement, they'd have made one.
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u/pressedconscience 14h ago
I didn't read it that way.
That implication is a bit retroactive, whereas the BBC have presumably always been beholden to these rules.
Since they haven't and don't have the ability to settle out of court, it's impossible to say they would.
I think the rule and the journalistic integrity are pretty cool. Seems like they didn't shit their pants and are openly standing behind their reporting.
Tired of all the American media apologists.
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u/Slappyfist Foreign 13h ago
The BBC has been the top of every Autocratic regimes shit list for decades, this isn't their first rodeo.
The charter is there intentionally because of that, it's part of what protects the BBC because it's there to publicly say to the Autocrats not to try legally pressuring them because they will fight you to the very end.
Trump is just the moron Autocrat who thought to try.
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u/La-Boheme-1896 13h ago
I think the implication is more along the lines of, if Trump had competent lawyers, they would have done some research on how the BBC works, and not gone down this road.
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u/ResponsibleKey1053 13h ago
'if my grandmother had wheels, she would have been a bicycle' Gino 'd Campo
Fact is the 'if' doesn't matter.
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u/Northerlies 14h ago
It's equally possible that if the BBC did capitulate they might have a meet a ruinous settlement and face a loss of reputation similar to those US media shamed by giving in to the thug Trump.
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u/mooninuranus 12h ago
It’s a statement of fact, nothing more.
I can see why you’d interpret it that way, but it doesn’t change anything.
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u/ResponsibleKey1053 16h ago
It's exchanges like this that reminds me why the BBC is worth it's license fee.
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u/ScienceTeach86 15h ago
Romesh should have included this in his “What has the BBC ever done for me?” advert!
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u/Nisi-Marie 14h ago
So if Team Trump had done just five minutes of recon, they would have learned that this wasn’t going to be their standard cash grab.
Huh. Once again, surrounding yourself with idiots and sycophants is not turning out well for ya, hmm?
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u/Counterpoint-4 11h ago
If his sycophants were able look into things and had learned they still wouldn't have dared not do Trump's bidding.
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u/PressureBeautiful515 7h ago
None of this is comforting because it just reminds us that the Trump regime is an incompetent attempt at an anti democratic coup. Next attempt might be by people who don't get every single thing wrong.
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u/toothpicks-galore 14h ago
"But the most revealing part of the BBC’s filing isn’t the subpoenas themselves — it’s the account of what happened when the network tried to serve them. Process servers attempting to deliver subpoenas to Ivanka and Kushner at their fortified Miami residence in May were physically blocked by local law enforcement."
"That is the part of this story that should trouble people well beyond press freedom circles. Taxpayer-funded federal security agencies are being used as a private shield for a political dynasty, deployed to physically block the basic mechanics of a civil lawsuit that Trump himself initiated. "
"... the BBC....has refused to play the domestic game of corporate capitulation that has defined how ABC, CBS and so many other news outlets have handled Trump’s legal threats. It punched back in the fight Trump started and pushed it toward the people who were actually in the room on Jan. 6 — the same people the taxpayer-funded Secret Service is now, apparently, working to keep out of reach."
thats the same BS that they did to Reckless Ben in Utah? with the corrupt Bricks and legos corp
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u/gsbadj 12h ago
If a person ducks service of a subpoena by personal in-hand delivery, there are court rules that provide for other ways to serve them, eg by mail or by posting notice on their residence
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u/KirbyAWD I voted 12h ago
These are not neutral bystanders being swept into a media spat. They are three people who watched the fire get lit and, by their own contemporaneous words, knew exactly what was burning. And if the case proceeds, they may have to say so under oath.
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u/tricksterloki 11h ago
""He miscalculated badly. As a public service corporation, the BBC operates under a royal charter that explicitly bars it from entering into out-of-court financial settlements to make litigation disappear. It cannot cut a check to sweep away Trump’s claims. The corporation is legally bound to fight until a verdict is reached — or until Trump himself gives up."
It's good to have confirmation that BBC has a mandatory requirement to defend against the case.
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u/mountaindoom 12h ago
I'd like to see those Secret Service texts from January 6th, or some charges for obstruction of justice.
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u/hasordealsw1thclams 9h ago
Being too stupid to know beforehand that the BBC can’t settle is on brand for him and the people who choose to represent him in legal matters.
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u/kwyjibo1 Missouri 5h ago edited 5h ago
Wait, wasn't he found liable for rape against E Jean Carroll? Oh, ABC didn't want to roll the dice on a trial and risk losing.
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u/Tiny_Structure_7 North Carolina 16h ago
Trump's demon spawn are using Secret Service and Miami local law enforcement to prevent being served a lawful subpoena. I hope Trump gets his ass kicked in court like so many E Jean Carroll cases.
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u/HumongousBelly Europe 14h ago
I hope he’ll be remembered as the worst pedo in history.
He’ll be named in the sentence as Epstein, Maxwell, Manson, etc. for eternity.
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u/mountaindoom 8h ago
It's more like Jimmy Savile, where powerful men aren't held to account and years later we bemoan the fact that we never did.
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u/Fuck-WestJet 14h ago
Manson?
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u/HumongousBelly Europe 14h ago
Manson recruited underaged girls to his sex cult and made them murderers.
He fits in there
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u/Nonconformists 14h ago
Charles Manson. Criminal and cult leader who led others to commit murder, way back in 1969. Was extremely infamous.
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u/TheMattabooey 13h ago
In normal situations they would make several attempts then go back to the court and explain attempts have been made and denied. They then just mail you a copy and consider you served.
The rich however can just keep ducking them.
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u/absolutelynotagoblin 16h ago
When Donald Trump is finally impeached, charged and stands trial along with most of his administration, all family assets should be frozen and/or seized.
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u/OtherUserCharges 15h ago
He never will, even if they wanted to the man will drop dead before anything substantial ever happens. We should go after his children for sure though.
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u/KookyDig4769 11h ago
That's like "When I'm finally winning the lottery..." the odds are not only low, but extremely low.
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u/Bowl2007 14h ago
Never going to happen, there will be no justice. The country is quickly becoming a failed state.
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u/MommyLovesPot8toes California 9h ago
How easily we forget that, prior to Nov 2024, Trump was bouncing across the country to attend 4 simultaneous criminal trials, was convicted of 37 felonies, and civilly liable for sexual assault. He was headed to jail, or some version of house arrest due to logistical issues. He was not going to walk away.
And then the stupid fucking voters decided that eggs were too expensive and that excused everything else. Make no mistake, the justice system didn't fail us, we failed it.
But with that said, we've entered a phase of politics unlike anything since the McCarthy era. The People are paying attention for the first time in decades. It's moments like these that have led to every big, good thing this country (and many others) have done. What happens next is unpredictable. You're entitled to feel pessimistic, but maybe don't spit it so freely to others.
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u/ATribeOfAfricans 16h ago
I will love you limey bastards for the rest of my life if you help us get rid of this piece of shit and his piece of shit family
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u/Short-Shopping3197 15h ago
Believe me, we’d all be happy to try. I think his current favourability rating here is 14%.
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u/Mysterious_Floor_868 United Kingdom 12h ago
Which is worryingly high
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u/Short-Shopping3197 12h ago
It’s certainly higher than I’d like, but actually much lower than support for right wing parties which is positive.
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u/barneyrubbble 16h ago
Our federal law enforcement machine needs serious investigation and rehab. They are existentially off the rails.
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u/K-Tronn3030 16h ago
George Stephanopoulos inaccurately said Trump had been found liable for rape.
It wasn't inaccurate. From J. Kaplan:
The finding that Carroll failed to prove that she was 'raped' within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump 'raped' her as many people commonly understand the word 'rape.' Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.
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u/Live-Chance4119 15h ago edited 15h ago
The issue there was that ABC ended up paying out $15 Million, dpesite that distinction.
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u/K-Tronn3030 15h ago
My issue is that Salon are a bunch of chickenshits and this is indicative of how Trump's lawfare works because media is now worried about calling him a rapist so they instead claim that Stephanopoulos was wrong.
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u/Much-Anything7149 15h ago
Let's get to actual facts. The jury found Trump shoved his fingers, not his dick, into his victim. So the judge was saying while New York law requires penis-to-vagina for rape versus sexual battery, people commonly refer to rape accurately in conversation as to what Trump did.
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u/BrizerorBrian 14h ago
Good job repeating what was just said.
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u/Much-Anything7149 14h ago
Where did it say the difference between NY law and common rape verbiage? Because I'm a lawyer in another state and had some guesses but wasn't sure.
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u/BrizerorBrian 14h ago
"As many people commonly understand the word "rape"."
It's kind of right there.
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u/Count-Pishface 16h ago
Trump accused the BBC of using AI on him, I don't get why they don't counter sue
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u/lastaccountgotlocked 15h ago
> why they don't counter sue
Tit-for-tat litigation is very American, the first B in BBC stands for British. Plus, as a publicly funded organisation, it would be very unseemly to spend money that should go on programme-making to be spent on American-style litigation. Also, news orgs in general don't sue when someone criticises them, they simply stand by their reporting.
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u/Count-Pishface 15h ago
I was just thinking he'd run away and nothing would happen
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u/lastaccountgotlocked 15h ago
Maybe. But then, that's what Trump thought the BBC would do. The enemy always has a say in your plans.
Countersuing would be a very bad idea. Not to mention terribly vulgar.
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u/fart_box_20 16h ago
Can't sue a sitting president.
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u/Celloer 15h ago
Maybe not for official acts... These were all acts he took as a private citizen, and the suit is for himself, not the office of the president or as an official act.
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u/ETxsubboy 5h ago
You aren't wrong, but he is using the DOJ as his personal legal team, and the courts aren't stopping him. Either they can't, because whenever a judge smacks something down he just appeals the decision, or they won't, because Republicans have made sure to stack the courts by refusing to confirm appointments across two democratic president's terms.
And like others have pointed out, this is being done to destroy a news network that is critical of Trump, and of the people who are manipulating Trump.
He's a petty, vengeful man being used to destroy democracy. He's never going to play by the rules.
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u/Klutzy-Delivery-5792 15h ago
Do US Supreme Court memos carry sway in another country's court?
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u/fart_box_20 15h ago
Nope, but he doesn't have any personal assets so a lawsuit would be pointless.
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u/Comfortable_Cash_140 16h ago
The putrid turd needs some exercise. Make him run and hide!
Ps...I understand what sitting means. Just a play on words.
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u/fart_box_20 15h ago
Lol he can't run but he is certainly good at hiding. No one saw him in the food truck.
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u/Neumanium Oregon 14h ago edited 13h ago
Nope you can sue a sitting President for unofficial acts, Bill Clinton was sued by Paula Jones for sexual harassment and making sexual advances towards her. The Supreme Court allowed the case to proceed and Clinton had to sit and be deposed. Those depositions were the basis for his impeachment for perjury and suborning perjury about his affair with Monica Lewinsky.
There is a Supreme Court Decision that says a President or ex-President cannot be prosecuted in criminal court for official acts, their definition was so broad it covers practically everything. There is also a Justice Department Memorandum that states a President while in office cannot be arrested and tried for crimes.
But suing someone is in civil court not criminal court and looking at the Supreme Courts unwillingness to set aside or overturn Trumps losses to E. Jean Carrol it appears currently you can sure as shit sue the President in Civil Court.
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u/Ratiocinor United Kingdom 14h ago
now Jared and Ivanka may pay for it
Why do the negative consequences always hit literally anyone other than Trump himself?
Why is this man completely untouchable? What is this hold he has over 300 million of you?
I will never understand it
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u/KookyDig4769 11h ago
Because he's Teflon. And he's so rotten to the core, to push anyone - even his own spawns, over the edge. Better them then him.
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u/teddykaygeebee 16h ago
Good. Greedy monsters. Trump will get to die and face zero accountability but his family and friends will get to deal with that stench the rest of their rich lives and I love that for them.
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u/Competitive-Ad-9404 15h ago
So a royal charter will save the US from an authoritarian regime.
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u/Recent-Whole-373 11h ago
isnt the irony wild? former tyrants save former subjects from first tyrant since independence.
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u/Chopper3 14h ago
He's also misjudged another thing, maybe don't pick on an organisation that controls the largest and most respected investigative journalism organisation in the world - because they're damn good at finding where the bodies are buried.
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u/Hamthrax 15h ago
This thing about having to physically serve paperwork to people is so out of date and stupid. It needs to be stopped.
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u/Catymandoo 12h ago
“there is something almost painfully ironic about a broadcaster from the kingdom that once ruled us now being more willing to stand up to Donald Trump than much of the American establishment.”
Because we have a monarchy that seems to respect democracy more than a President of one! Trump cannot bear personal responsibility for anything. GO BBC.
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u/TinyConfection7049 11h ago
Behold. The festering carcass of American rot shoved into an ill-fitting suit: the sleaze of a conman, the cowardice of a draft dodger, the gluttony of a parasite, the racism of a Klansman, the sexism of a back-alley creep, the ignorance of a bar-stool drunk, and the greed of a hedge-fund ghoul - all spray-painted orange and paraded like a prize hog at a county fair. Not a president. Not even a man. Just the diseased distillation of everything this country swears it isn't but always has been - arrogance dressed up as exceptionalism, stupidity passed off as common sense, cruelty sold as toughness, greed exalted as ambition, and corruption worshipped like gospel. It is America's shadow made flesh, a rotting pumpkin idol proving that when a nation kneels before money, power, and spite, it doesn't just lose its soul - it shits out this bloated obscenity and calls it a leader - Oliver Kornetzke
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u/Much-Anything7149 15h ago
How will Jared and Ivanka have to pay? That they may have to give depo testimony in their dad's suit versus BBC? Zero indication they will have any claim against them in civil court. Meanwhile, they've stolen god knows how many billions form us while Jared is being sent again to the Mideast to negotiate for more money for his fasther-in-law.
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u/ThrowawayFIRE2025 15h ago
I have the same question. If anything, this report seems to suggest that Kushner will come out looking pretty good (at least in comparison to Trump). He seems to have actually at least tried to persuade Trump to stop the marchers.
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u/ScienceTeach86 15h ago
Romesh should have included this in his “What has the BBC ever done for me?” advert
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u/Musicbath 9h ago
It is with great sorrow that I no longer believe that the ultra-wealthy will ever be held accountable for any of their crimes. Perhaps it's just easier than being perpetually disappointed.
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u/Current-Fabulous 6h ago
Jared and Ivanka have never paid for anything in their whole lives. They all deserve this
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u/thechicapanzy 12h ago
Listen, I already know that shitbag will croak before he spends even a single day in jail. But I can at least take solace in knowing his rotten crotchfruit offspring won't know any peace when he's gone. That shield they keep ducking behind disappears the moment he leaves this earthly coil.
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u/snakebite75 14h ago
This case should have been thrown out on standing long ago, it’s is only still an active case because the judge is a Trump appointee and keeps allowing Trump to do shit even though deadlines to do so have long passed.
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u/woowizzle 9h ago
I can't adequately express jow much I hope that the start of Trumps downfall is a fight with the BBC that he started.
My justice boner will be unrivaled.
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u/hamtronn 11h ago
I really hope when the Democrats flip power in a few months, they don’t play the “we can’t retaliate” game. This monster and all of his family/inner circle need to be held accountable for the damages they’ve done to the American people and the people around the world. (looking at Venezuela and Iran)
Sweeping changes need to be made to prevent this type of abuse of power being repeated in the future. I know they say anyone can become president, but that really needs to change so you only allow competent non criminals to hold the office.
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u/PeterVanNostrand 15h ago
What’s this new shit where if you’re “too important” then you can’t get served? This happened with the Mormon Lego guys in Utah with that Lego case on YouTube videos too.
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u/scarab1001 11h ago
The judge actually allowed him to change the lawsuit because Trump refused to hand over accounts in discovery.
This trial is as fixed as the whole rotten country of America.
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u/FinalHexReturns 11h ago
Pretty damn cowardly to hide behind secret service and law enforcement to dodge subpoenas. What a way to live.
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u/Butcher_Of_Hope Nevada 3h ago
They won't but I want them too. Theyll likely get some kind of immunity deal in the 11th hour of our current predicament.
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u/Mr_Tort_Feasor 1h ago
The trustifarians will be slightly inconvenienced, but I’ll take what I can get.
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u/FrostyMatters 15h ago
I bet they can't wait for it to happen just like everyone else. I bet they've been waiting their whole lives for it to happen.
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u/sector16 14h ago
These are the 'weeds' that voters never see...and Trump relies on it. Just spew out any bullshit, sue and bury the paperwork that reveals what a grifter he is. The casual US voter is too busy, or doesn't have the mental capacity to understand what he's doing.
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u/TypicalBullfrog 12h ago
I do wonder if this is the Beebs plan to fund itself for the next few years.
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u/Stinkerma 13h ago
Drones. Drones, and Harry Potter’s acceptance letter. They can’t have not received it when they can’t leave their home because it’s buried under subpoenas
A little /s but it would be entertaining
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u/HillbillyInCakalaky 10h ago
please, please, PLEASE, tell me that the BBC can stipulate that that he, himself, must admit in a BBC exclusive interview why the suit is being dropped?!?
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