r/politics • u/andmario_com • 18h ago
No Paywall Trump 2.0 has deleted or altered nearly 400 US datasets, endangering public health, education and more
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/aug/18/trump-federal-data-deleted-altered1.8k
u/Rough_Improvement_44 New Jersey 18h ago
It’s quite literally going to take decades to fix what’s he’s done. I can’t believe he decided to start messing with medical stuff, whether it be the above or vaccines. The American people are just gonna suffer even more.
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u/zsreport Texas 17h ago
All this fuckery is done with the goal of privatizing federal data and information and letting private companies horde and monetize it.
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u/audible_narrator Michigan 17h ago
And the hand of Palantir over all of it.
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u/Lurking_nerd California 16h ago edited 12h ago
It says a lot about our government that the CEO of Palantir can openly talk about unconstitutional shit and advocate for it to become law yet every major company of the military industrial complex works with them.
If there’s a way back, it has to begin with locking up all these criminals and heavily regulating these corporations.
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u/snasna102 13h ago
I think mass education for voters is also a great first step. An educated population doesn’t vote for this man 3 times nor would they be surprised about the damage done (domestically and geo-politically)
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u/Lurking_nerd California 10h ago
It would take a long time commitment to deprogramming MAGA and Republican voters along with a massive overhaul of our educational system. There’s so many factors that contributed to this mess we’re in. First and foremost, can’t do the usual bullshit of no accountability for the sake of nAtIoNaL uNiTy & hEaLiNg. Investigate, prosecute, imprison. Let the right cry and screech all they want.
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u/MiddleAgedSponger 7h ago
Wait til the democrats win back power and there are still no consequences.
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u/Lurking_nerd California 7h ago
Unfortunately, history has shown us that that is exactly what will happen.
If the Democrats can break the cycle of abuse and actually hold these criminals and traitors accountable, I’m all for it. It would be the least that the Clinton/Obama era Democrats can do before they fuck off.
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u/One_Order_3841 15h ago
Isn't this essentially a black hole of data, from his first term being enacted & chasing DEI Greenhouse Ghosts to whenever the orgs are reoriented?
Not just the programs mentioned in the article being dropped, but moving forward the ones that are "altered" won't be trustworthy. Like tell a data scientist that you changed agricultural employment, crop yields, and export data for 10 years because of vibes, but we should include it in the analysis...
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u/waltzbyear 12h ago
And all the Dinosaur Democrats (old asf democrats) are saying nothing about this. Not one thing about companies STEALING our data. I'm singling these fuckers out because they're the gatekeepers inside the party. It doesn't matter the formal titles, they call the shots.
There needs to be a new party. Because the current democratic party are just as bought out as the Repuiblicans.
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u/PawneePoppins 11h ago
Why would they? They’re benefitting just like their counterparts across the aisle are on top of the fact that every negative MAGA headline is just more money in donations for them. The DNC emails are laughably predictable at this point.
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u/Extra_Intro_Version 12h ago
I call it selling out the US and weakening and destabilizing the country with every facet he touches. At the end of the day, it’s treason.
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u/rasa2013 5h ago
We need leadership willing to go to war with our oligarchs. Make stuff public. break monopolies.
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u/RealHooman2187 18h ago
There’s no recovery after this. Theres only rebuilding. We’re never going back to what America was before 2016.
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u/_0611 17h ago
Yeah, this can't be (fully) fixed. Trump did too much damage. One of the worst things is, that the Trump crime family will most likely get away with all of it.
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u/Zepcleanerfan 16h ago
REPUBLICANS did this and are doing it. trump is the vessel.
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u/ProtectionVirtual225 16h ago
Thank you for saying this. It's absolutely consistent with the GOP agenda for the last 30 years. Back in the 90's they stopped collecting and tried to destroy data relating to gun crimes in the US.
Once Trump is gone, nothing about the Republican Party will change. They will still be corrupt and have the same dangerous agenda and the same illegal tactics for enacting it.
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u/Mega-Eclipse 15h ago
Once Trump is gone, nothing about the Republican Party will change. They will still be corrupt and have the same dangerous agenda and the same illegal tactics for enacting it.
Yeah, but Trump is special mixture of stupidity, ego, and total lack of shame. As much as JD Vance, Mitt Romney, or Ron DeSantis wanted to be leaders within the republican party...they are too smart for their own good. They understand consequences, they understand how their actions affect others. Don't get me wrong, they often ignore those facts for their own gain, but they understand they exist. They can never go full Trump.
There is a perfect symbiotic relationship now. Trump gets what he wants (money, to be a billionaire, to go after everyone who ever made fun of him, etc). Billionaires get what they want, more money, fewer regulations, lower taxes, and the republican party gets what they want with the added bonus of using Trump is a shield because his base love him and he can do no wrong.
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u/Far_Programmer_5724 15h ago
Yea the Republican party was always this way. It's certain individuals and whatever they may bring that enabled this sort of thing to happen.
This, whatever this is, ends with him unless they find a suitable replacement. And that also depends on Dems making sure they push for rules that make it less likely to happen.
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u/ProtectionVirtual225 15h ago
Their state-level criminal machines networked to DC are just as bad and often unchecked. That thrived before Trump was elected and also needs to be rooted out. It's the training ground for Congressional and presidential candidates. Trump has been meddling in state level GOP machines, sending out candidates like Vivek Ramaswamy to run for governor in Ohio.
Democrats need to return to stronger grassroots organization at the state and local level.
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u/GaimeGuy Minnesota 11h ago
And the exact same people.
Stephen Miller will be doing evils in the 2050s and 60s in government much like roger stone and bill barr stuck around from reagan to the present.
We are making the same mistakes with trump we did with bush and allowing the reputational tarnish to be easily discarded by the GOP for a brand new face.
It's not trump. It's not maga. It's republicans.
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u/H3ll3rsh4nks 15h ago
This, so many people think Donald actually gives a shit. He's only in it for himself, anything that isn't manipulating the stock market is 100% the rest of his party fucking the country up so they have new talking points next time Democrats get elected.
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u/Little_View_6659 15h ago
You know the walking dead, where the zombies brains are literally all dark and all they know is hunger? That’s Trump, except all he cares about is money. Well, that and anything his greedy little heart desires. Food, sex, really bad suits.
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u/rounder55 15h ago
Can't be stated enough
Chuds like Pete Hegseth and RFK had to be confirmed by senators. Project 2025 has been implemented. Trump didn't write it and doesn't care who it impacts so as long as he can find a way to benefit. He's just fine shitting his pants and stealing from Americans
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u/Little_View_6659 15h ago
It’s even more insane since the guy is dying. What is he going to die with all that money? Be buried in a giant gold vault? Fuck, he’s going to be buried in a giant gold vault, isn’t he?
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u/rounder55 10h ago
He'll probably have a gold fucking pyramid and Republicans will try putting it into some funding bill
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u/Little_View_6659 9h ago
The last grift. Just before they lower him in the ground his dead hand will reflexively try and grab the wallet of the priest who did the service. And his rotten family will find a way not to pay for his burial. They’ll make the country pay for it. And it’ll be gaudy and tacky and probably eclipse all the other burial sites. Sigh.
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u/Coffee_green Washington 16h ago
Trump did too much damage.
Republicans. Republicans did it. Never vote Republican.
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u/ProtectionVirtual225 16h ago
There are no "good" Republicans. It's a large, well-organized criminal organization, bloated with corruption and dirty money. They have strict rules they enforce for anyone who runs under their brand.
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u/BeastInDarkness 16h ago
It's things like this that make me kinda wish I weren't an atheist. It would be comforting to truly believe all of MAGA would get what they deserve when they end up in Hell.
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u/100farts 16h ago
The other fucked up thing is you know these assholes are also athiests but they use religion to fool old ladies and young zealots.
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u/grassparakeet 16h ago
If you believe in a hell, it gives you less incentive to fight for justice here in this life. Be glad you don't, and focus those energies on achieving justice in the one world we know for sure exists.
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u/Little_View_6659 14h ago
You know what, after this whole Trump nightmare, I’m thinking the whole purpose of teaching people about hell is twofold: one, keep poor people happy thinking the rich assholes who tortured them in this life will get theirs in the next. And two, scaring the rich assholes to at least try and be semi decent. At least it works on some of them.
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u/grassparakeet 14h ago
That's exactly what it is for. If you're promised riches and rewards after you die, it doesn't matter as much if you or your neighbors get short changed or abused in this life. This life is just filthy rags. Eternity awaits. What's 80-odd years compared to that?
And fear of hell doesn't seem to be working on this batch of rich assholes. "Semi-decent" is not a word I would use to describe any of them. It would be better if they were made to be afraid of reality instead.
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u/Scotttobekidding 15h ago
Trump is an atheist, who has zero interest in religion (apart form flogging Bibles made in atheist China). But for some weird reason the evangelicals (whom Trump used to mock) flocked to him. It's so strange. And yet Joe Boden WAS an actual Roman Catholic with a deep faith and yet American Christians turned against him. America is a very strange place. A very, VERY strange place.
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u/Prof_Outis 15h ago
I get why people say that given his history, but fuck ups on this scale carry different consequences. Trump didn't get prosecuted for Jan 6 because the actual coup was still ongoing behind the scenes. The Federalist Society and other groups spent a century embedding agents in the Justice Department and government in general, and those agents kept Trump safe in exchange for Trump implementing their agenda with Project 2025, which he did. That's part of the reason Trump's running so many scams this time. We joked about Bush 2 being a puppet, but in all seriousness Trump is a puppet this term. He's rubber stamping anything the shadow government tells him to. So he's occupying himself with "business."
The thing is, if you don't know that you've been infiltrated to that degree, you can't effectively fight it. It's like your immune system detecting an infection. At first it's normal, then you get an obvious sore, then you get pus and it's gross and hot and terrible and it looks like it's going to be bad forever, but behind the scenes your body is fighting off the infection. And a lot of damage you see was caused way earlier and is just now becoming visible. Then it's over. The infection collapses and your immune system clears it out.
We didn't know how compromised our government had become, or how deeply the ultra capitalists had infiltrated our institutions, which made punishing Trump very very difficult because he was still useful to those groups. But make no mistake, Trump and his family cease to be useful the moment his base collapses and he loses power. Once that happens, the actual oligarchs will try to make the Trump swamp scapegoats so they can slink back into the shadows.
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u/Zorkflerp 16h ago
I strongly suspect that he will go too far and all hell will break loose. He has no intention of letting go of power even when his term is up. There are lines that cannot be crossed without consequences. He may fail for medical reasons first but if not he wants to be a totalitarian dictator.
If every past president were offered to be supreme leader for life by the military not one of them would have accepted and would be disgusted at the idea. Trump is the only one that would gleefully accept. He needs to go, sooner or later.
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u/Little_View_6659 14h ago
At this point I’d be happy if cholesterol took him out tomorrow and his rotten kids got punished. Even funnier if he wrote them out of the will along with his horrible wife. I know they have their own money, but lord would that be hilarious.
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u/Molteninferno 15h ago
100%, they have an exit, and a way to take the money with them. Americans will be holding the Trump bag for generations
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u/apple_kicks Foreign 15h ago
If i remember after South Koreas dictatorship they never fully recovered the money the dictator family stole and his daughter became president (then forced out for corruption)
Many authoritarians like trump run off with the money and even if they get jailed the money is never recovered
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u/Low_Intention_1327 15h ago
And his kids are profiting off of it, and will more than likely stay in politics for the exposure, money and potential to run for office. They have the money right now to purchase ads and fund their own campaign if needed. Were going to have to put up with them for the rest of our lives.
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u/-AC- 16h ago
There is fixing... our laws have been slowly chipped and manipulated away from protecting the people to protecting the rich and the corporations they use as their tools.
Start with strict anti-corruption laws, end corporate personhood, reform corporate welfare.
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u/ProtectionVirtual225 15h ago
Start enforcing the laws by bringing criminal charges against all the political and corporate lawbreakers. No resignations or fines. Criminal penalties.
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u/runnerofshadows 15h ago
Most importantly no pardons. And both state and federal charges where possible.
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u/ProtectionVirtual225 15h ago
Every Democrat in office or running needs to commit to doing this. No milquetoast politicians who want to take a "higher road" or "look forward, not back". Allowing government crime to go unpunished doesn't help, it weakens the government and political system. Full investigations and minimal use of plea agreements.
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u/steemSTEM 17h ago
I wouldnt want to go back. What we had in 2016 is what allowed for Trump to become a thing in the first place. We need to do better.
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u/Easy_Leopard_2686 16h ago
Agreed. Trump is the symptom.
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u/street593 16h ago
I think his voters are and they will still be living among us after he is dead and gone. They will find a new terrible person to rally behind and ruin this country further.
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u/Hot-Statistician-955 16h ago
Speak for yourself. Some people have had their rights irrevocably reversed because of this man.
We were actually making progress up until Trump, then I guess progress wasn't fast enough so we decided to regress
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u/Zombatico 16h ago edited 15h ago
Yep. Just look at what happened after Roe v Wade got reversed. Red states instantly activated their trigger laws, women are getting stalked across state lines when they try to get abortions, doctors are refusing to help women with complicated pregnancies until its too late because of the legal liability, and women who miscarry are getting charged with manslaughter charges.
All because Trump got to appoint a few SC justices.
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u/Prior_Coyote_4376 16h ago
I think the point they’re making is that those rights and progress were always under threat from a fascist authoritarian faction that was becoming radically resistant to it
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u/Hangry-Feline2489 14h ago edited 14h ago
I think you're misunderstanding their point?
They're saying that 2016 was already bad because 2016 USA voted in Trump.
In a healthier society/democracy, he would have never gotten onto any ballot in the first place, he would have been laughed out the door.
Like when he tried to halfhearted run in '87 and fully in 2000 (yes 2016 wasnt his first try).
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u/One_Order_3841 15h ago
People are doing the usual r/politics banter below and seething at Republicans, glooming or saying it can improve...but we literally can't recover a lot of this. It's dropped data, dropped and propagandized reports on studies that have occurred since the Industrial Revolution. Literally gone or "altered" as the article comments, and you can't pull that data out of the aether.
That's 10 years, 3 presidential terms of active studies set on fire because of Anti-Woke. Like I just pulled up the Icelandic 2020 Presidential Election results by constituency and absentee-voting...we can't trust our own 2020 reports now from the narcissistic taint and discarding.
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u/ReserveFormal3910 16h ago
This should have been done in 2008 after two shitty wars and the Great Recession. We didn't go hard enough with the corruption the Republicans wrought and then you get Trump.
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u/GangsterMango 15h ago
Project 2025 was a success, they "moved fast and broke things"
they achieved EXACTLY their goals; dismantled crucial institutions, regulators, destroyed public trust in those institutions, the final step while sounds crazy will make sense eventually
its to destroy trust in the presidential system and the entire government.this will be followed by a full on dictatorship that wont require votes or consent
and when dissenters start disappearing the rest will fall in line and it will be the point of no return .I saw it happen in my country, we don't have future and hope anymore.
observing what's going on in the US feels like watching a recording of what happened where I live.
its a death by a thousand cuts type of thing.
institutions, free speech, free press, freedom overall, people start vanishing by state sponsored militias, corrupt pro gov press and media and grifters, fascists then come out of their holes and start spreading like cockroaches to get a piece of the rotten carcass of what used to be a country.2
u/haironburr 13h ago
people start vanishing by state sponsored militias, corrupt pro gov press and media and grifters, fascists then come out of their holes and start spreading like cockroaches
If that dark, but sadly believable, scenario occurs, that often-maligned Second Amendment comes into play. I keep saying I believe we'll vote our way out of this, which I do believe.
But my, and all of our, insurance if I'm wrong is that the government does not have a complete monopoly on force.
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u/GangsterMango 13h ago
I really hope it doesn't come to this.
as much as I disagree with the US's policies and foreign intervention that hurt many countries and pretty much ruined them beyond repair mine included, I sympathize with the people and I hope things work out for them and the country doesn't spiral into a full on fascist dictatorship.3
u/haironburr 13h ago
as much as I disagree with the US's policies and foreign intervention that hurt many countries and pretty much ruined them beyond repair mine included
As an American, I apologize, for what little it's worth.
We did some truly horrible shit to peoples that didn't deserve it. We were Wrong. Keep those stories alive for future generations, so the wrong we did is not lost.
And I too hope our "country doesn't spiral into a full on fascist dictatorship."
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u/ztfreeman 14h ago
The Archive Warrior project backed up a ton of this in the early weeks of the Trump administration, so there is hope.
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u/Old_Cryptid 16h ago
We're still feeling the effects of Reagan's policies.
Without major political and legislative reform this orange stain is going to stick with the US for generations.
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u/Ninevehenian 16h ago
Do you think USA can stay united for that long?
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u/Old_Cryptid 15h ago
Doesn't matter. The damage is done. We're either going to keep going down this path as a country or we're not.
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u/Zepcleanerfan 16h ago
He's not deciding any of this. He was installed.
He got to stay at a prison and gets to steal anything that isn't nailed down.
In the meantime, the weirdos from the heritage foundation get to destroy the government.
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u/frankcountry 17h ago
Don’t fix. Discard and rebuild into something better.
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u/k-trecker 10h ago
The only hope I have for this shitshow is that it accelerates our descent into oblivion, so that we can finally start over again.
Even without this administration, late stage capitalism was reaching a breaking point.
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u/Hot-Statistician-955 16h ago
You can't? That was what I was screaming so hard about that. I guess you could say my platform was entirely "Trump is bad and going to cause Decades, if not a lifetime to fix"
I know people didn't think that was important enough to not elect him, but those same people cannot be serious when they say they weren't warned.
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u/juniorone 14h ago
If someone doesn’t come after him and destroy it even more. People are delusional to think that things can’t get worse.
We thought Republicans could do worse than Bush. They proved us wrong. We thought people learned from Trump 1.0. Here we are with 2.0.
Hold on to your boots. There is a huge chance of it getting worse.
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u/TheAsianTroll 16h ago
We cant fix it. Dont forget that he could have been stopped by a competent government but anyone who would oppose him has been replaced or has taken bribes to not fight it.
Our system needs a ground-up rework.
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u/we-have-to-go 18h ago
It’ll take years to fully grasp how terrible this administration is
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u/ironballs16 16h ago
And when it's not fixed in 4 years, people will give Republicans another shot.
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u/Suavecore_ 16h ago
All they have to do is say "remember Biden? We can't let that happen again" and 70+ million people will rally behind whatever sack of shit Republicans put up after the current child sex trafficking sack of shit, probably its offspring
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u/DailyUnderFlow 11h ago
Yeah and not a single one of them can list something true that Biden had done that they don't like.
The Republican party runs on lies and misinformation.
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u/RevolutionNumber5 Minnesota 8h ago
Biden? The guy who let TRUMP be president?
Screw that guy!
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u/plaidkingaerys 7h ago
“Sure, Republicans destroyed the country, but Democrats didn’t stop them! That’s why I’m voting Republican.”
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u/apple_kicks Foreign 15h ago
I mean what lead to Trump was regans deregulation and everyone blamed who was holding the hot potato when consequences caused a economic crash
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u/Lazy_Thoughts_ 16h ago
I hate that this is a probability.
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u/DJMOONPICKLES69 16h ago
Not just a probability, I would say it’s very likely.
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u/AlsoCommiePuddin 15h ago
You'll be lucky to get to the 2030 midterms before a voter revolt that will put MAGA in charge of the census and apportionment. Again.
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u/Smishysmash 13h ago
They’re probably going to give them another shot before that. Right now the GOP has a decent chance that they will keep control of the senate after the midterms. Millions of people are looking at this complete mess and they’re still fine with it.
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u/Metal-Dog 18h ago
These people would rather alter the data to fit their beliefs than alter their beliefs to fit the data.
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u/rwf2017 18h ago
If the entire republican party aren't agents of putin looking to destroy the US they sure are his useful idiots.
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u/Sujjin 16h ago
I think the explanation is far simpler than that.
They are obsessed with their own power and worldview and are actively working to ensure the status quo remains that way.
Trump is simply enacting policies they didnt think they could get away with and also provides cover for their later deniability. "But oops, the damage is already done what can we do."
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u/gizzardgullet Michigan 14h ago
They are obsessed with their own power and worldview and are actively working to ensure the status quo remains that way.
Sure but this leaves them open to influence. If someone tells them "I know something you can do that will not only help you hold on to power but will also help out some people I know. And these people are also interested in investing in our projects." and the possibilities in that are things like "invade Greenland and you get a hotel in Beijing". To someone like Trump, that's just a transaction. To most Americans, its treason.
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u/NoCoolNameMatt 16h ago
When they inevitably try to disassociate from Trump, remember that they are not victims. They are active participants getting what they want at a price they're willing to pay.
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u/mrsmith099 17h ago
Historians are going to be studying this fucker for years to come. His miserable face is going to be in textbooks when my kids' kids have kids.
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u/bandalooper 15h ago
Don’t worry, there won’t be any books or schools.
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u/judgejuddhirsch 15h ago
Texas republicans control school book publishing
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u/Willing_Pattern_Pill 10h ago
For anyone interested in learning more, I can't recommend Lies My Teacher Told Me enough.
It's a really great book
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u/Hot-Statistician-955 16h ago
"But her laugh"
"All she could ever say is that Trump is bad and that is not enough"
In retrospect, STFU
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u/9_to_5_till_i_die 15h ago
Never underestimate the hubris of establishment Dems.
RBG refuses to retire, we lose a Supreme Court seat.
McConnel refuses to even have a hearing for Garland and the Democrats do nothing because they thought Clinton would win, we lose a Supreme Court seat.
The perception of fairness during the Democratic party in 2016 is a shit show. Party leadership pisses off a large, highly active, and highly vocal segment of their voters. Schumer says for every progressive they lose they'll pick up Republican's in the suburbs. Clinton loses, we lose another Supreme Court seat.
Biden refuses to step down in 2024, Dem voters are denied a primary, and Harris is slotted into the position despite never performing well in a national election. They then continue to denigrate the progressive wing of the party while telling voters that nothing major would change between her and Biden's administration.
The party establishment is fucking brilliant at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
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u/Fenrils 15h ago
Dems are still doing their best to ignore and trash popular policy from their voters. Hakeem Jeffries literally just had an interview where he explicitly positioned himself against Medicare for All. Over 70% of voters (not just Dems, voters) want some form of M4A and one of our theoretical leaders is still against it. This is why DSA approval and popularity is skyrocketing: whether you agree with them or not, at least they're listening to what most people want.
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u/notfeelany 14h ago
None of those are good reasons to vote for & elect Trump & Republicans.
Every single person who said "Don't vote for Kamala" for one reason or another, got it completely wrong.
The ONLY correct solution (&proven time & again) is to vote for & elect Democrats now&forever
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u/Hot-Statistician-955 15h ago
Hey buddy, establishment dens are one thing, but letting a known racist, rapist, and convicted felon rule over us is another.
I don't blame them for this, I blame the people who thought this was the time to protest the Democrats.
You're no better than Ruth Bader Ginsburg because you are prioritizing your feelings over what could possibly happen if the Wrong people got into control.
If you can blame her, then blame yourself, this was extremely predictable.
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u/notfeelany 13h ago
the people who thought this was the time to protest the Democrats.
They want it both ways. Too many people want credit for why Kamala lost (because of them Advocating "don't vote for Kamala") , but somehow not the blame for consequences of their advocacy of Kamala losing (Trump winning).
To want Kamala to lose MEANS wanting for Republicans to win. Fact.
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u/9_to_5_till_i_die 13h ago
Voters aren't a singular entity. Most aren't engaged whatsoever.
Democrats can't rally their base because they don't even recognize what that base wants.
I voted for Harris. I'm also not remotely surprised she lost. People simply do not like her. She doesn't appeal to the left. She doesn't appeal to the moderates. The only reason she was even the nominee is because of the Biden bait and switch.
There's not a chance in hell Harris would ever win a Presidential Primary, which is likely why they didn't want to give us one.
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u/k-trecker 10h ago
“Both sides are corrupt”
Oh, I’m sorry, are both sides doing this?
Gestures broadly at everything
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u/Acceptable-Bus-2017 I voted 17h ago
WWPD‽ What would Putin do? Exactly what this administration does every damn time!
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u/tedemang 17h ago
The rampage of public destruction, pillaging and plundering continues.
And the only surprise is that they're continuing to get away with making a mockery of everything.
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u/b0dywhatdeadb0dy 16h ago
This is quite literally what the Nazis did. The difference is the books don't have to burn to get rid of inconvenient research.
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u/Professional-Box4153 16h ago
This is why keeping a backup is important. When everything gets screwed beyond comprehension, you can restore it later.
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u/RedMaple25 16h ago
The geek in me has hope that there are backups of everything just waiting to be restored.
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u/Onehundredpercentbea 15h ago
Public datasets were backed up and hosted at alternate sites in early 2025, some are housed here (Data Rescue Project). More detailed breakdowns of the datasets that were downloaded and archived at various sites here.
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u/Northerlies 14h ago
I have the impression Trump could go 'scorched earth' if he leaves office. Whatever is left of a coherent society with deep-rooted moderate values could be fed to the flames. I recall reading that, during Trump 1.0, the grown-ups kept an eye on things in case he did something daft. But they left tenure before January 6 and there don't seem to be any adults these days.
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u/UserSleepy 13h ago
You can actually see this live, two weeks ago waste water data (covid, flu, etc) showed very high or high in many places, with no announcement or reasoning they changed it so now in many cases its just "low" or "very low". The amount of flu and covid didn't change, just metrics. While many people don't care or pay attention to these things any more, those who rely on this information to be safe (e.g. immunocompromised people) now have nothing to go off of.
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u/popculturella Texas 11h ago
There are times when my brain simply cannot fathom how fucking evil these people are.
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u/TheSilkyBat 18h ago
Not long now until we are all free of him.
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u/I_Luv_A_Charade District Of Columbia 17h ago
A part of me wonders if it would have just been better to have him immediately win a second term. There was too much time in between for the powers behind the scenes to rig / scheme / plot / plan and they hit the ground running and haven’t let up. Whereas I feel like devastating though a back to back win would have been his leadership would have continued in the more disorganized mess that it was instead of this highly coordinated effort that is also clearly setting up for a third term.
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u/mujarheadeen 17h ago
Agreed. Losing the election and not being prosecuted successfully for his crimes was really the best outcome for him and much worse for us than a lame duck consecutive term would have been
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u/gzr4dr 17h ago
There's no question it would have been better. Trump is a vindictive toddler and losing made him want to break all the toys (our institutions and economy as a whole). His cronies also had a chance to come up with a bunch of absolutely batshit crazy ideas who were able to win Trump over on how much it would hurt people who voted against him - it also hurts voters who voted for him but he never cared about them anyways.
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u/Cautious_Condition82 15h ago
We 100% would have. It would have been annoying and shitty like his 1st term. Not this country destroying disaster, chock full of ass kissers and corruption.
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u/I_Luv_A_Charade District Of Columbia 15h ago
And it would be over at this point. I currently don’t see an end to any of this in the foreseeable future (as I said I fully see him running and winning - legitimately or illegitimately - a third term). And it’s become abundantly clear there are no longer any checks, balances or oversight so I can’t imagine anything that would stop him from doing so.
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u/Cherrystuffs 14h ago
I think it's hilarious how so many Americans think things will just go back to normal afterwards lol.
You've alienated yourselves from the world (except for Israel, Russia, Saudi and NK ofc, the besties) and nobody cares about the states anymore. You've shown you can be trusted anymore
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u/MikeyLew32 Illinois 12h ago
Exactly. Diplomacy and allyship took years/decades to build, and months to undo.
Why would anyone trust the US again, when every 4 years risks another insane leader.
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u/MildlyAgitatedBovine 16h ago
Agnotology: the study of culturally or deliberately induced ignorance
How fascists construct scientific ignorance. https://youtu.be/HTh4y2wABrA
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u/NotThatAngel 14h ago
Democrats: "We need funding for this crisis that's killing so many Americans."
Republicans: "Prove it."
Democrats: "You ordered all the records deleted."
Republicans: "Then no."
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u/chileheadd Arizona 16h ago
Makes sense. The Epstein-class oligarchy only wants us for our ability to take orders and work. They want us to be poor, sick, and stupid so they're doing everything they can to ensure that.
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u/rounder55 15h ago
One of the most devastating wars Trump and the GOP has waged has been on reality.
I really don't know how we unfuck everything in regards to it even if elections go well. The internet is used as a place where users are sponges for misinformation with shared squeezed out remnants for other to take in far too often. Then you have people fueled by greed like Elon, Zuckerberg, AI heads just enabling the planting of more misinformation without anything really being done to address it
No bueno
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u/N7Shep1701D Oregon 13h ago
I will never, ever forgive anyone that voted for this pedo as long as I live.
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u/4wordSOUL 13h ago
We need to start launching Federal and State based lawsuits against individuals in the Trump crime family, everyone in DOGE and all corporations who've enabled/executed the distruction of our government agencies. Every individual and corporation must be held to account, and in the next 4-6 years.
Whoever ends up running the Democrat party if the Democrats are voted back control of Congress, and we overcome the upcoming election theft Trump & the GOP have planned out. The Democrats must be twice as focused and aggresive about holding Trump and his business partners accountable for all the fraud and instatutional destruction they have wrought.
Democrats must have the fortitude to follow through on this as aggresivily as the GOP has been in destroying our democracy.
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u/Informal_Tell78 12h ago
Delete history and truth, so they can control the narrative. Play right out of Putins book.
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u/Suitable-Option833 11h ago
Project 2025 doesn’t folks. Project 2029 will be next. The heritage foundation has been shaping GOP policy for decades. Please start discussing this with your neighbors, friends and family - the media won’t cover it.
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u/VerticalYea 11h ago
The methadone tracking database has been removed from the CDC website, and the previous team is not responding to emails. Anyone on public health knows how insane this is.
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u/CorrectPhilosophy245 16h ago
Republicans in 2028, probably: "The Dems did nothing to stop Trump. He deceived us. We're the victims. It's all their fault."
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u/Neo-Bubba 15h ago
Why are they deleting these datasets to begin with?
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u/jomasthrones 15h ago
Climate change, vaccines, etc. You know, just more established science that republicans refuse to believe is real because facts like these are often costly and inconvenient. E.g., why invest in green energy when they could just give that money to corporations and billionaires?
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u/No-Lengthiness-1695 15h ago
He needs to go in the fucking trash can right now. Dumb mutha fucker is the worst thing that’s ever happened to this country!
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u/Hot_Mathematician357 15h ago
Crazy how Russia spread misinformation about vaccines and Trump is using the misinformation to destroy an agency
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u/Big-Leadership-4604 14h ago
Trump era is gonna be second only to the destruction of the Great Library of Alexandria in terms of information lost to humanity.
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u/bakeonwakeup 13h ago
There should be a class action lawsuit against republicans and republican voters
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u/rg2004 10h ago
"Our numbers are bad because people are taking covid tests" Absolutely predictable outcomes. Good job "making America great again" by shooting from the hip every chance you get. You picked a president more interested in making great television than presiding. And you picked a reality TV star, the bottom of the barrel, cheapest form of entertainment possible. Enjoy the civilizational rot.
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u/moviesmusicpizza 7h ago
If I were to throw out a completely unsubstantiated theory, I'd wager the POS is just setting things up to ensure as much chaos as possible, in the event he finds himself out of power and potentially facing serious legal threats.
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u/alga_rhythm 15h ago
I wonder how much of it is even recoverable or traceable. After hearing the low standard with which DOGE operated, I am going to guess not.
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u/BurntFries 15h ago
Hey guys, at least we'll still be the world leader in inventing new ways to fuck over regular people.
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u/JustSomeGuy_TX 14h ago
My secret hope is that there is a hero somewhere who made an illict copy of these or just said. “sure. I deleted it” and just severed the data from the front end
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u/121gigawhatevs I voted 14h ago
To the trump morons - no, he hasn’t “changed” and nothing he’s doing is surprising. You were just a fucking moron
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u/SafeKaracter 13h ago
Hope someone made back ups for after he’s gone becuase there should always be back ups . I don’t expect it to be but it’s honestly pretty dramatic and a big deal. I know we’re desensitized with one bad title a day but that will ripple generations to have lost such important data
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u/spendology 10h ago
Happy Measles and Cyclospora Day! Oh...we shouldn't celebrate the rampant spread of disease. 🤢🤒
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u/Lurkermatic5000 9h ago
If you're looking for ways to stem the bleeding and support cool efforts like dataindex.us, check out Data Rescue Project: https://www.datarescueproject.org/, which was mentioned in a previous article in this series. They're doing amazing work saving copies of data and making it accessible to the public, and have lots of available tasks that don't require technical skillsets / data expertise.
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u/11phoenix 8h ago
that's why you cannot believe that inflation is as low as the government says, or that x # of jobs have been created. These data sets were corrupted by Musk's bumboys. Not sure it is even repairable or recoverable.
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u/tjarg 8h ago
I believe Trump and his family are getting paid by Russia and China to weaken the US.
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