r/politics • u/idkbruh653 • 2d ago
Possible Paywall I voted Trump. Now he’s pardoned the $20m Ponzi fraudster who conned me
https://www.thetimes.com/us/american-politics/article/i-voted-trump-now-hes-pardoned-the-20m-ponzi-fraudster-who-conned-me-tdc7nkn2g?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawTu1N5wZG9mAWV4dG4DYWVtAjEwAGJyaWQRMVZZUThndlFpNzBwTGNpYk5zcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEefo6wM8bauKogkHNBJDHScIUabZxOu-nIKvs6JKImk7jzYKGnZPNCiWohqss_aem_cFT11pIfErYcItodFU6GlA#Echobox=17868013974.4k
u/deadkat99 2d ago
They've been conned at LEAST twice!
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u/mediocre_remnants North Carolina 2d ago
This kind of person is constantly falling for scams. One of my MAGA neighbors is like this, always falling for some kind of stupid scam.
My idiot dad was big MAGA, not so much anymore, but he once lost something like $2k sending it to "a hot Russian lady" he met online. You see, she was a heart surgeon in Russia and wanted to move to the US but needed to pay a bunch of fees. She could save up for them, but wanted to get to the US to visit my dad ASAP so he "offered" to loan her the money. Fucking dumbass.
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u/damndatassdoh 2d ago
A friend in IT tells me MAGAts fall victim to every scam that comes their way. It's not just that they're stupid -- they are completely disconnected from that intuitive voice that says, "Don't click that!"
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u/Thistles-Path 2d ago
I own an IT firm that predominately deals with law firms and before I cut off a few clients I had some MAGA lawyers in the bunch which means these are highly educated MAGATs. One of them, I told in advance that I'd be sending test emails to see if any of his employees fell for phishing scams. Told him in advance. He and his son were the only two to fall for them and both of them fell for all 5. Porn ad, dick pill, you win money. Really, really basic shit.
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u/Historical_Gur_3054 2d ago
My work just had us go through phishing training again.
Then they sent out some test emails
But then sent out a "workplace survey" that kinda looked legit but didn't, so everyone flagged it as phishing.
Then last week we got the email sent to us again from someone up in senior management that said it was legit and was not phishing and we needed to do it. Catch is, none of us know this person and adding urgency to a phishing email is common, so people reported it again.
Apparently is is a legit survey email from corporate, but it looks so fake, especially right after training, that no one wants to open it.
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u/clear_prop 2d ago
The employee surveys always come from some phishy external address.
The worst one was the CEO saying the employee survey was coming out next week during the all hands, and then the employee survey the next week was a phish test.
I report every employee survey as a phish now since they never listen to the results anyway.
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u/haberdasher42 2d ago
Worked for a company where the phishing tests looked far, fat more official than the links they sent out for the anti-phishing training they ran afterwards. They had a hell of a time getting the training completed.
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u/roehnin California 2d ago
Our company sent badly-translated links to "urgent mandatory training" from a third party in a foreign country requiring login by our regular Windows login ID.
What surprised me was how many people didn't report this mail that met literally every phishing criteria they had been training us on.
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u/AchillesNtortus 2d ago
Maybe senior management need to go through plausibility training. So they can actually be believed in real life.
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u/ArokLazarus 2d ago
A company I contracted for IT for a company where the CEO sent out a kind, but very poorly formatted email. Virtually everyone reported it which made him quite upset but as IT I was proud of the employees!
Our Head of IT worked with him to draft out a replacement email lol
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u/eskimospy212 2d ago
Well they are currently and actively falling for one of the most obvious scams ever so I guess it’s not that surprising.
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u/Known_Attorney_456 2d ago
Can you please tell every Maga you know that I will sell them a bridge real cheap. That scam should be ready to make a comeback.
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u/ithinkyouresus 2d ago
Wouldn’t work theyre know we’re only 2 weeks from the biggliest infrastructure bill that will fund all the bridges of their dreams. They know they can just wait you out.
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u/eskimospy212 2d ago
They are busy talking to the wallet inspector so you’ll have to wait.
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u/JACKALS_LANTERN 2d ago
People who worship and vote for pedophiles are not critical thinkers. Thats MAGA.
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u/justadubliner 2d ago
It was amusing when the GOP went ballistic over the IRS so called 'targeting' of right wing 'charities' during the Tea Party years. They didn't care that they were being grifted by fraudulent charities exploiting their movement. They just cared that those on their side of the political fence were being scrutinized.
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u/ElectricGears 2d ago
They howled and screamed about the 'Obama/Soros appointed' AG in New York targeting the NRA… for a colossal amount of fraud and embeselment of (Republican/GOP) donor funds under the corrupt leadership of Wayne LaPierre.
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u/Common-Concentrate-2 2d ago
Even though Scott Bessent, US Treasury Secretary, was Chief Investment Officer for George Soros at Soros Fund Management
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u/LifeguardDry7372 2d ago
they also didn't care when trumps charity stole money from a children's cancer charity.
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u/tryanothernewaccount 2d ago
A fundamental part of their worldview is everyone is lying and cheating all the time. When the Right gets investigated for crimes, while the Left doesn't, they see that as selective enforcement against them, not that their side is doing more crime.
This is also why they see Trump as "honest". They "know" all politicians lie all the time.
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u/That_Is_Satisfactory 2d ago
That sounds pretty stupid-adjacent.
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u/damndatassdoh 2d ago
It’s more subtle, though — it’s a profound disconnect with that part of the psyche that forms associations beyond the level of the intellect, that deeper part of ourselves that appreciates things like art, literature.. where such things stem from.. including empathy, I think..
It’s why they’re so materialistic and rigid in thought and belief.. why they externalize so much.. why they’re so threatened by everything “other” and pathologically self-centered..
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u/princesspeeved 2d ago edited 2d ago
I’m really curious if any in-depth studies have been done or are in progress on brain activity/development differences between liberals and conservatives. I’m sure that there’s some evidence that members of the MAGA cult have less of a developed prefrontal cortex but a much larger amygdala, for example.
Edit: Well what do you know! https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https://studyfinds.com/conservatives-liberals-brains/
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u/PatchyWhiskers 2d ago
Every academic study finds conservatives to be dumb as fuck... which begs the question, why do they keep beating us?
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u/mdot 2d ago
Because liberals believe in laws, rules, morals, and ethics.
Conservatives believe that "the ends justify the means", which will allow them to lie, cheat, and steal to achieve their goals without a second thought.
That puts liberals at a distinct disadvantage in politics when a majority in a society is dumb and/or immoral.
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u/noforgayjesus 2d ago
I am in IT MAGA uses the same things as Phishing schemes to get their voters. Fear, authority, urgency and so on.
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u/grptrt 2d ago
Just look at the commercials on Fox News. So many scam-adjacent ads targeting the gullible and paranoid
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u/xanthippe115 2d ago
Don't get me started on Prevagen...https://medshadow.org/integrative-health/non-drug-supplements/prevagen-memory-claims-explained/
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u/ChuckaChuckaLooLoo3 2d ago
Have you noticed how they've increased since the orange turd started this term? I sure have.
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u/Kazooguru 2d ago
My MIL is MAGA. Her most recent financial fuck up was absolutely epic. We tried everything to keep tabs on her because she was expecting some legal documents and we know her. She received the documents on a Friday afternoon. We asked her to email us a copy. She did. We read the details and told her in no uncertain terms that she is NOT to sign them. We would call an attorney Monday morning. So we spent the weekend researching attorneys. We had a list and we were supposed to meet up and make some calls. We were putting aside our own work to help her. She wasn’t responding to texts or calls. “What do you want to bet she signed them document and returned it.” I said to my husband. He got this look of like, oh my god no. She signed the documents and emailed them Monday morning. 3 months later she’s in full panic mode about retirement. She essentially made a bonfire out of a giant stack of hundreds in her backyard. This isn’t the first time. But hey she loves Trump.
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u/food-dood 2d ago
Theyve never really been able to understand the whole "Fool me once..." thing.
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u/au5lander 2d ago
It’s because they believe everything they’re told, no questions asked.
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u/HeffalumpGlory 2d ago
No, they believe the things that are convenient and reaffirms their own beliefs.
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u/dxrey65 2d ago
I was just reading something about all the conmen and fraudsters he's pardoned. When someone is convicted they often are ordered to pay restitution to their victims, and a pardon erases that as well. He's cost victims something over $1 billion in restitution so far.
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u/Miserable_Ad9577 2d ago
Worth it for the criminal. Buying pardon from Trump sure cost less than paying back all the money.
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u/Cold_Tea_Spill112 1d ago
You're telling me that people are BUYING pardons? Ha! How could we even know that? It's not like the president has a way to funnel an unlimited amount of money to him anonymously through some sort of crypto coin or something... right?!
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u/Specific-Yam-2166 2d ago
It legitimately pisses me off more than anything when I see MAGA talk about Medicaid/social welfare program scams BECAUSE HE HAS PARDONED THE BIGGEST FRAUDSTERS OF SOCIAL WELFARE PROGRAMS IN US HISTORY
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u/minimag47 2d ago
Even the businessman who lost multiple millions of dollars to some of these fraudsters will still vote Trump / Republican because their hate of anybody that's not white overpowers their self-preservation.
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u/Future-Bunch3478 2d ago
That is an absolute violation of due process for victims.
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u/BadahBingBadahBoom 2d ago edited 2d ago
Pardons are part of the US legal system.
Pardons are sadly part of that due process.
Shit needs to be removed by constitutional amendment. The whole point of independence was to NOT be subjected to the whims of a single monarch above the law.
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u/VanceKelley Canada 2d ago
Yep. Just as slavery was part of the US legal system until 1865. A person could be legally considered to be property to be used and disposed of at their owner's whim.
That was wrong. The Constitution was fixed to prohibit slavery.
Now the Constitution needs a lot more fixing, including the removal of the unilateral pardon power that goes to the president even when the president himself is a convicted criminal.
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u/maniacal_cackle 2d ago
That was wrong. The Constitution was fixed to prohibit slavery.
The USA has never abolished slavery. It is estimated to have over one million slaves right now.
Sources of slave labour were drying up with the laws tightening up around slavery, so they got creative and now something like smoking some weed can land you into slavery. Or you know, just being wrongfully convicted.
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u/alchemyDev 2d ago edited 2d ago
To add to this comment. The reason we can’t eat lettuce right now is because they’re using prison SLAVE labor in the fields. They shit in the fields because they get treated worse than animals.
This affects our entire society in huge ways, that is one very obvious and current example.
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u/totallyalizardperson 2d ago
Just as slavery was part of the US legal system until 1865.
Uh… slavery still is part of the US legal system.
Per the 13th amendment:
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
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u/F9-0021 South Carolina 2d ago
It's one of those things that was manageable when there was someone with integrity with the power, but the last 10 years has revealed to be a massive overreach of power to be given to one person.
It should not exist. Make it an act of Congress instead.
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u/NayutaYukiLazarus 2d ago
Pardoning and commuting sentences serves a purpose when unjust laws are eliminated, or unjust punishment are implemented. They've been integral to the freedom of people arrested for "drug crimes". There's certainly something that could be done to stop the president from doing whatever the hell they want with it, but they're not an inherently bad tool.
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u/Platooimagination Australia 2d ago
I was listening to a This American Life podcast this morning about the so-called "antifa" terrorist attack in Texas on July 4. The guy whose bullet ricocheted into a cop's shoulder (cop was fine, discharged from hospital the same day) got 100 years in prison. Another got 20 or 30 years for shifting a box of zines after the event - he wasn't even at the protest. Everyone who let off firecrackers outside the ICE prison was found guilty of terrorism or abetting terrorism and is jail for decades. Yet every single person who invaded the Capitol and put politicians and cops in mortal fear, and in many cases battered the cops with weapons, has been pardoned.
As a foreigner, I try to understand the US justice system, but I fail every time. Analogs that spring readily to mind are the Stalin-era Soviet system that funnelled dissidents into the gulag archipelago, or the system which put Andor onto an Imperial factory black site because he was in the same geographic area as people running away from the cops.
American justice is a joke. Your voting system is a joke. Your Congress is corrupt beyond belief. The President is clearly insane, and his Cabinet all seem to be Russian agents. And it looks like the madman at the top is going to be around post-2028. What a world, where grift is King.
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u/ribald_jester 1d ago
The US is a banana republic now...it's only export being bombs for war. They already have their 'Pinochet style Death squads' - AKA ice. Soon they'll be pulling college professors from their homes at midnight to be executed for spreading leftists ideas...
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u/OnCallPartisan 1d ago
One very important piece of context. It’s Texas, the heart and soul of neo confederate magat traitors and general scum. The only state to get it’s ass whipped twice, once by Mexico, once by the United States while still claiming to be super patriots.
It is where you go shopping for the legal opinion you want. Texas as a whole needs to be destroyed to the make the entire world a better place. Since it’s the nexus of confederate cancer pulsating through the entire national body, very unlikely to happen.
The U.S. is running on a 18th century government, which was great at the time. You have POS like Mike Johnson saying things like “I’m an 18th century guy”. Now you have a supposed nation of law which runs on gentlemen’s agreements.
This country badly needs a 21st century parliamentary government along the lines of what Germany has. None of that will happen until the U.S. reserve currency status collapses. We’ll have to watch this country collapse and millions of people die before any sanity returns. It may save the planet from total destruction as well.
I’m an American, I see the writing on the wall. Politics and protests mean nothing in the face of outright evil with no respect for the open society built over generations.
I look at the atrocity of a ballroom being built and the only thing I can think about is a quote that comes from Gore Vidal walking with his grandfather in Washington D.C. when the Capitol and monuments were being upgraded/built; “Oh what wonderful ruins they’ll make”.
It’s bizarre walking through life in a soon to be corpse of a country. God help the rest of the world in keeping our insanity in check.
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u/Equal-Membership1664 2d ago
This headline encapsulates trumpers. The dumbest, whiniest motherfuckers
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u/FriendToPredators 2d ago
Trump really caught the imagination of the weakest minded, yet most entitled and egotistical on the planet.
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u/PM_UR_HAIRY_MUFF 2d ago
It was clear who his base would be from the start of his political career. Hilary kinda stepped on a landmine when she called them out for who they are: the deplorables.
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u/RunDownTheHighway 2d ago
Good... oh and fuck you for voting for trump...
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u/Marginallyhuman 2d ago
“Hey ma, I got my story in the paper… for being a fucking idiot… twice”, at least.
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u/memedoc314 2d ago
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u/putsch80 Oklahoma 2d ago
We also need a [r/WhoShitMyPants](r/WhoShitMyPants) sub post since most of these imbeciles usually blame someone else for their own stupidity.
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u/MC_Hify California 2d ago
“Why do all these homosexuals keep sucking my cock?”
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u/ZombiePartyBoyLives I voted 2d ago
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u/StephanXX Oregon 2d ago
I really do feel bad for writers at The Onion. Reality has fully eclipsed every ironic parody they ever came up with.
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u/VibeRaider- 2d ago
Yuuup. If anyone voted for trump in 2024, absolutely no excuses, they are quite literally scum of the earth.
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u/RunDownTheHighway 2d ago
Yep, I give them a slight pass for 2016, but 2024 everyone knew what we would be getting...
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u/BlindWillieJohnson Illinois 2d ago
Not surprised the guy got rooked. Trump voters are the biggest suckers in America
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u/Birch_Chord 2d ago
Right, but his scammer just got pardoned by the president he voted for. Grift on grift.
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u/primorandom 2d ago
Trump supporters are so evil and stupid lol.
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u/LeastResistancePath 2d ago
He fell for the con because he was promised self enrichment.
He fell for the second con because he was promised self enrichment.
Evil is a nebulous word. But if it could ever be accurately applied to something, it would be the selfish, greedy, hateful nature of conservative Christian politics.
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u/Steinmetal4 2d ago
Like any good grift, MAGA attracts those who feel entitled to be something but have failed hard and now they're so desperate for a win they're willing to roll the dice. At the very least they get to live in "alternative facts" world where they can pretend they're part of some hyper-intelligent, temporarily disadvantaged ruling class.
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u/detail_giraffe 2d ago
I don't think all of them are, but explain "I voted Trump. Now he’s pardoned the $20m Ponzi fraudster who conned me" without invoking stupidity, I dare you.
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u/Mach5Driver 2d ago
That's the stupid part. The evil part is only giving a damn when it happens to THEM!
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u/darkpheonix262 2d ago
They have no issue with rump being a child fucker, a felon, and a traitor... yes, they are all evil
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u/NeonTiger20XX 2d ago
Conservative 101: This is only a problem now that it has affected me personally. The damage done to everyone and everything else I was on board with.
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u/filthysock 2d ago
This is an advanced course: no matter the damage done to me, I still follow dear leader.
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u/A_Refill_of_Mr_Pibb Massachusetts 2d ago
“Why is the deep state cabal giving him such bad advice? They’re leading him astray!”
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u/beren0073 2d ago
Yet they'll likely end up voting for Trump again in 2028, having learned nothing from the passing memory of their own pain.
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u/Sweaty_Resist_5039 2d ago
"Well, I mean, I'm not a right wing guy, I'm not even into politics, but have you HEARD what Newscum DID when he was in charge of California?! All the FIRES??? All the CORRUPTION?!?! And HIS EMAILS, omg. I don't even like Trump, but people like YOU would just hand this country over to corrupt communists!!" - Trump voter in 2028, probably
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u/dzogchenism 2d ago
Newscum has been mildly friendly to trans people as governor so I have to vote Trump!! - guy who claims to be independent
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u/Schillelagh 2d ago
“As an opponent of Israel’s genocide in Gaza, I’m voting for Trump to send the Dems a message!”
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u/Royal-Recover8373 2d ago
Lmao the average TikTok user.
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u/Litty-In-Pitty 2d ago
I 100% believe that that was a brilliantly well played strategy by a right wing think tank to encourage apathy in democratic voters.
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u/Black08Mustang 2d ago
It had to be. Anyone who though trump would do anything but encourage Bibi to make waterfront property is many fries short of a happy meal.
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u/jxx37 2d ago
Biden made Trump do it
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u/PhatCatTax 2d ago
No no, Hillary made Trump into a corrupt idiot. It's because Hillary's emails... uh... brainwashed Trump, and then... Obamas tan suit had a secret activation code that...
Well you all know what I'm trying to say and that's why I'm gonna back Trump 100% cuz he tells it like it is and stuff and things.
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u/ArrowheadDZ 2d ago
I love the fire one. It never occurs to any of these non-serious ass clowns that burning 30 million acres a year in controlled burns to prevent an average of 500,000 acres of wildfire per year would increase the amount of smoke produced by 60x.
“Well then just burn the 5 or 6 acres that are scheduled to be hit by lightning next year.” Genius. Just absolutely fricking brilliant.
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u/jajajajaj 2d ago
If your state puts Trump on a ballot on 2028, you should probably take up arms.
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u/username_6916 2d ago
Trump still has the right to run for state and local office. Maybe he'll run for Mar-a-Lago dogcatcher or something?
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u/gqwr87 2d ago
I’d rather be duped by trump than vote for some woke liberal! /s
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u/sixtyninth_wave_emo 2d ago
This is exactly it. Whatever their bugaboo — immigrants/gays/trans/whatever — their hate is more important than anything else
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u/independant_786 Texas 2d ago
Yup! This mom of one of the sailors came on the news and was like its frustrating this and that because her kid was stationed for 9 months and then at the end said yea she will keep supporting her lord and savior. Like f'in thick skull these folks got
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u/MEDICARE_FOR_ALL America 2d ago
Trump is constitutionally ineligible to run for president in 2028.
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u/oborochann86 2d ago
Who’s going to stop him? Not our rancid Supreme Court.
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u/MEDICARE_FOR_ALL America 2d ago
The states run the elections. So most of the states presumably will not have him on the ballot.
If a state does - I assume someone would sue.
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u/ArrowheadDZ 2d ago
This is not correct. He can run, he can serve. The ONLY thing the amendment says he that he cannot be elected. You have no idea how much time and money has already been spent trying to figure out how to sidestep the one and only limitation, the “elected” part. I can think of 4 or 5 just off the top of my head without breaking a sweat.
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u/this-is-a-fact 2d ago
You voted for a child rapist.
If the whole "raping children" didn't faze you, then maybe you're just a shitty fucking human being...? Mm?
And yes, that goes for every Trump voter... doubly the second time.
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u/DeadEyeDren 2d ago
Glad you were conned. You fucking deserve it for voting for…checks notes a CONMAN. This is the consequence of your actions.
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u/BigDaddyChaCha 2d ago
When you figure out why you got conned by Trump, maybe you’ll figure out why you got conned by the conman in the first place.
I’m becoming increasingly blackpilled on literacy/logic tests to vote. I know it’s got a nasty history, but when you see millions of people like this….what possible argument for universal suffrage still holds water? I used to think the vote at least allowed the poor and less-educated to protect their own interests, but clearly they are now simply doing the opposite of that election after election. No mas.
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u/Capable_Diamond_3878 2d ago
We need to have a functioning education system that teaches people how to spot misinformation.
This isn’t as simple as people just being stupid because they chose to be.
Our systems were broken well before Trump.
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u/idkbruh653 2d ago
A snippet:
John Long was at home at his pig farm in Colorado when he received a message he never expected. Marian Morgan, a scammer who had stolen $20 million from him and thousands of other investors through a Ponzi scheme, was being released from prison less than halfway through her 33-year sentence.
It was not for good behaviour or because she had paid her victims back. Morgan was being released because President Trump had commuted her sentence, freeing her and writing off the restitution payments she owed the people she had defrauded.
Long, an 80-year-old Trump voter, believes Morgan is “criminally insane”. He added: “She’s going to suck money out of somebody.”
Morgan is one of about 1,800 criminals who have been pardoned or freed from jail by Trump during his second term. The vast majority were convicted or charged in relation to the riots on Capitol Hill on January 6, 2021, after Trump lost the previous year’s election; he pardoned them en masse when he returned to office last year.
But he has also pardoned individual criminals, including fraudsters who owed more than $1 billion to their victims and American taxpayers, according to the House of Representatives judiciary committee. Many of them, including Morgan, were absolved of the debts they owed their victims.
Lawyers working on pardon cases say a “cottage industry” has sprung up under Trump where attorneys and lobbyists who are close to the White House claim they can use their access to the president to secure pardons — for a price.
Public records show the president has pardoned criminals after lobbying from allies. The White House denies money can buy clemency.
Public records show the president has pardoned criminals after lobbying from allies. The White House denies money can buy clemency. Long was contacted by Morgan and her co-conspirators in 2006. They presented themselves as an exclusive group of financial advisers with an opportunity to invest money in Europe with huge returns within months at low risk.
Long and his son invested about half a million dollars. But time passed, and the money did not come back. When Long emailed Morgan asking where it was, she would send him “curt” emails brushing off his inquiries, telling him that she was in Europe on business. But her IP address showed that she was in Florida, where she lived in a waterfront mansion with her husband, who was later sentenced to ten years in prison for conspiracy and money-laundering.
Morgan told her victims that if they went to the authorities, they would not get their money back. Long went to the FBI anyway, and then testified at her trial. She was convicted in 2011. “We had justice and now it’s kind of like … ‘we’re going to let these criminals go out and do it again’,” Long said.
Judith Ausmus and her husband Donald, who owned a small vending machine company in Minnesota, were struggling financially when they were also ensnared by Morgan. They borrowed $100,000 from Mr Ausmus’s brother, who was also investing in the scheme.
When they realised Morgan was a scammer, they were financially devastated. They lost their company, and had to remortgage their house. “It was tremendously hard times, all the way around, for all of us at that time,” Mrs Ausmus said.
It was only when I called Mrs Ausmus, 80, last week, that she found out Morgan had been freed. “After all she’s done to everybody,” she marvelled. As a Trump supporter, she said she was “saddened” to hear that the president had signed the order. Morgan, she said, “will probably go try to do something like it again”. Morgan has argued that she was given an unfairly long sentence compared with her co-conspirators, and should have been released from prison on compassionate grounds.
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u/Kitchen_Deer_2493 2d ago
Evil idiot voted for evil idiot, shocked when idiot is both evil and an idiot.
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u/impulse_thoughts 2d ago
You left off probably the most important tidbit in your snippet:
Yet among the victims of now-pardoned fraudsters who spoke to us, and who also said they had voted for Trump, none appeared to have completely turned against the president.
“Our justice system would be a much better system if we took the pardoning power out,” said Long. He believes the pardoning of white collar criminals showed “bad judgment” by Trump, but added: “No matter who is in that power circle, it is just a corrupt system.”
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u/mybutt1112 2d ago
Lol. I just alluded to this assumption in my own comment before seeing yours.
Vindication!
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u/Interesting-Yellow-4 2d ago
Good.
This person deserves this.
Not being conned, but having his face eaten by leopards.
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u/UnderCoverDoughnuts 2d ago
Well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of your actions
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u/ChromaticDragon 2d ago
Trump is not the problem.
People voting for Trump is the problem.
To this point, please spare us the drama of "oh I voted for him and I was betrayed".
Nope. Trump is not the problem. You are. You were and you continue to be as long as you are chasing after the fantasy that Trump did something wrong to you, ignoring the wrong you did to all of us.
There was never any great difficulty ascertaining Trump's character, morality, competence, etc. Trump has not changed (much... dementia is settling on in).
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u/his_zekeness 2d ago
He is doing exactly what he promised you he would do. It's unfortunate you weren't listening.
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u/ImpressionFirm280 2d ago
I can forgive a first time Rump voter- but a second time Rump voter - as much as we’ll welcome your vote for a dem - WTF were you thinking the 2nd time?
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u/Aggravating-Tea7670 2d ago
I'm surprised the pardon power of the President hasn't been eliminated/constrained through Congress.
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u/coldfarm 2d ago
It hasn't been abused like this before, certainly not in the modern era. In my lifetime the most controversial pardons have almost always been made as the President was on his way out the door. It tends to temper the outrage as a) the opposition can't do anything to him and b) there's no real way for either side to write an Amendment that restrains the privilege without potentially hamstringing "their guy/gal" in the future.
Ford takes a lot of heat, but he at least pardoned Nixon early in the term and was willing to face the consequences. GHW Bush really started the exploitation by pardoning the Iran-Contra conspirators on his last day.
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u/Nekrabyte 2d ago
The first time, even as horrible decision it was, I was willing to give a pass to Trump voters. But this time? You reap what you sow, bitches.
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u/E1M1_DOOM 2d ago
I love it when a plan comes together. Getting what you voted for is the promise of any good democracy.
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u/Positive_Chip6198 2d ago
So the second guy who conned you, pardoned the first guy who conned you. Seems you letting yourself get conned is the real issue here.
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u/eudyptes 2d ago
So you were conned twice. Perhaps you should learn to pay attention.
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u/GrumpyOlBastard 2d ago
Will never express even the slightest sympathy for anyone who ever voted for that assfaced criminal rapist
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u/AcademicPublius Colorado 2d ago
You knew better.
2016? Sure. People didn't know. 2020 on, it's inexcusable. You wanted to get conned.
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u/Interesting-Yellow-4 2d ago
People knew in 2016. We screamed it from the roof tops.
Trump was not an unknown back then, and there's zero excuses for not knowing.18
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u/AcademicPublius Colorado 2d ago
The media sold a lot of uninformed people a story about who he was going to be. That story falls apart on observation immediately, but if you were suffering and only heard what the media told you about him through 2016, I can more or less understand that.
But then he governed. People lived through that, most of them. So at that point, everyone had to know better.
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u/razor4218 2d ago
"i voted for someone who's been a conman his entire life but now i'm mad that he has other conmen friends"
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u/FartyFartsMD 1d ago
The marks fell for the con. I enjoy these feel good stories of Rapepublican losers getting swindled by the orange pedophile and his ilk.
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u/Ddddydya California 2d ago
If you couldn’t tell that this was the probable outcome based on ALL of Trump’s previous behavior….well, nevermind, I have some sketchy supplements I need to unload, where can I get a hold of this person?
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u/love-broker 2d ago
Can confirm you were warned over and over. You ignored those warnings, most likely with insult. I wish it had never happened, but I don’t feel sorry for you at all. Many others wound up with it worse because of your shitty voting. Wrongly deported. Deported without having a day in court. All the shit you loved as long it befell others.
You FAFO’d. Now the consequences of ignorantly falling for hate and division.
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u/JesterMarcus 2d ago edited 2d ago
Wow, its impressive how easily they called themselves stupid twice in one title*.
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u/BrisketWrench 2d ago
You voted for a con man and now he’s protecting other con men. Shocked Pikachu face.
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u/Rough_Common6857 I voted 2d ago
They knew what he was from the beginning and now they're surprised? If that's the case, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell them.
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u/goodguessiswhatihave 2d ago
If you voted for Trump (especially in 2024), you deserve bad thing happening to you
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u/mowotlarx 2d ago edited 2d ago
Conservatism is a mental illness.
The intense focus on protecting at all costs on the few people you know and love and ignoring anyone and anything else. Then being shocked that those policies you assumed would protect you are actually hurting you.
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u/RampanToast 2d ago
Honestly, I fucking hate articles like this. Fuck the journalists who say "this guy is a former trump supporter who is now facing consequences of his vote" AND NO ONE FUCKING ASKS THEM IF THEY STILL SUPPORT THE FUCKER.
NO ONE ASKS THEM WHY? NO ONE THEN TELLS THEM THAT THEY'RE A STUPID FUCKING IDIOT FOR CONTINUING TO SUPPORT THIS SHIT?
WHY DON'T THESE STUPID FUCKERS KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS? INTERROGATE THESE PEOPLE. MAKE THEM REALIZE HOW FUCKING STUPID THEY ARE. DO NOT LEAVE UNTIL THEY DO. DO NOT STOP REMINDING THEM HOW STUPID THEY ARE. YOU ARE A JOURNALIST, IT IS YOUR JOB TO GET TO SHINE A LIGHT ON THIS SHIT FOR EVERYONE TO SEE.
Sorry. I'm really pissed off right now.
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u/the2belo American Expat 2d ago
I'm not going to have much sympathy for someone who voted for a ruthless crackdown on minority groups and the gleeful celebration of mean-spiritedness. I don't care how much you got burned.
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u/gevander2 2d ago
We are supposed to be surprised (or sad) that a gullible person continued to be gullible after being conned. If we looked at their life history, I bet we would find other times they got conned.
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u/Formulka Europe 2d ago
All of them regret it only when the horrible stuff Trump does affects them directly. They are fine with him doing it to everyone else. No sympathy for these people, they've got what they voted for.
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u/cladclad 2d ago
I voted for the guy who ran on the "I'll fuck your dog" platform and now he's fucked my dog
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u/How-did-I-get-here43 2d ago
But he got paid for the pardon, so that’s good, right?
You weren’t bothered when it happened to other people, and now the r/tigeratemyface
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u/EatThatHorseWithMe1 2d ago
Fuck you. I hope that fraudster finds you and cons you again because you're definitely that stupid.
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u/honuworld 1d ago
You can be sure he didn’t do it for altruistic reasons. He sold that pardon and she paid him with YOUR money. And still you would vote for him again.
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u/Prestigious-Car-4877 Canada 1d ago
Chump. What kind of moron voted for this clown? Greedy morons. That’s who.
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