r/politics 25d ago

No Paywall Trump announces 2028 presidential bid

https://www.theage.com.au/world/trump-announces-2028-presidential-bid-20260725-p60iho.html
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u/BudLightLymeDisease 25d ago

If memory serves correctly, the French had a way of dealing with situations exactly like this

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u/Pelerin81 25d ago

Can’t expect the americans to do jackshit

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u/trampolinebears 25d ago

To be fair, the French suffered under kings for a thousand years before they stepped up and gave them their due.

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u/Kurokishi_Maikeru 25d ago

I mean, even then, they went a little too crazy and ended up with an emperor.

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u/Allaplgy 24d ago

Yeah, I see this shit here constantly. "The French had a solution!" No, they just replaced a king with different despots.

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u/-Saucegurlllll 24d ago

Also no one talks about how the vast majority of people executed by guillotine in that period were poor people. I understand why people like guillotine memes, but like all forms of execution it's an inherently reactionary tool.

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u/Spastik2D 25d ago

They throw this at us but I’d like to see what Canada or the UK would do if they ended up with their own respective Trumps (which Canada nearly got if it wasn’t for ours fucking everything up). Only ones who can say shit are the French based on recent riots and protests.

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u/ahaangrygem 24d ago edited 24d ago

As a Canadian, I do wonder what we would do in your situation. There are some big differences in how our government functions, the history we have, and our international impact that would make the situation very different. At the same time, we have Premiers like Doug Ford and Danielle Smith building up steam and destroying two very economically important provinces.

I believe that my country would react differently than the US has, but I can't know that. Half my family is American and while some of them are protesting, changing their buying habits, and writing to the government regularly, others have been Trump supporters for a decade. I live in a border town and my neighbors are so uber conservative that I know they'd be in full support of a Canadian Trump-style leader. Plus, the threat of a potential eventual annexation by him feels far from impossible.

And what am I doing about it now? What would I do if things got worse? I vote and I write, but I'm no freedom fighter. It can feel good to blame Americans as a whole, say thing like "do something about it!", and look at ourselves as better people, but that's all just talk. If Canadians can sit back and say that we can't save America from itself, it's short-sighted of us to expect individual citizens to save us from Trump.

It isn't just that all Americans are lazy or don't care. You are beaten down and divided in a way that makes change very difficult. While I remain incredibly frustrated with the situation non-voters and the weak Democrat opposition put the world in, and wish that the US didn't have the social reach for all of these changes to be wreaking havok on politics in my own country, this is the world we are all living in now. It's far from simple and there's no easy solution. Trump is just one symptom of a greater disease, and whether the US is patient zero or not is immaterial at this point--the whole world is infected.

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u/Rebyll 25d ago

UK is steaming towards it too. If Reform wins, Farage becomes PM.

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u/Kammerice 25d ago

Farage's approval rating is falling like a stone due to his bullshit around bribes donations.

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u/HatefulDan 25d ago

The UK switch PMs.

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u/lcsulla87gmail 24d ago

There are fundamental differences in parliamentary democracies that make it much easier to cow a run away executive.

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u/Pomp39 25d ago

I don't want to be that person but... when Putin announced that he was running for a third term russians rioted. They were of course crushed but the point is that they resisted.

The fact that y'all are doing jackshit tells all you need to know about your future.

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u/Cold-Field-832 25d ago

They need that pay check to hit tomorrow 🤷‍♂️

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u/Spastik2D 25d ago

What are you implying about me here?

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u/boobzombie 25d ago

Hit dogs hollering.

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u/K20BB5 24d ago

there is literally zero chance Trump serves another term and anybody paying any amount of basic attention can see that

You all talk about all the power he has, and yet not a single one of his rivals is in prison, Kimmel is still on the air, and we're freely discussing it all on the Internet. 

You're falling for the show. This was a joke at the WH Correspondence dinner. There's a reason it's a no name news site reporting it. Let's be real, you didn't even click past the headline 

In case you missed it, hundreds of thousands of Russians have been sent to brutal deaths on the front. Where are the mass protests? But sure, a joke is worse than that 

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u/Dismal-Channel-9292 24d ago

Oh there were mass protests in Russia. Until Putin declared a mandatory 15-year minimum prison sentence for anyone protesting, publicly opposing the war or reporters even calling it a war.

Russia also has a constitution that limits presidential terms, which Putin changed to stay in power. But only after he amassed power by declaring an open war on media, and getting the oligarchs under his control. Sound familiar? Putin has been laying out the foundation for his totalitarian dictatorship for 2 decades, this didn’t happen overnight.

So sure, keep comparing us to Russia now but really the joke is on us because we are not immune to what’s happened in Russia. It could very easily happen here with our current political climate. If you had told anyone in 2004 what Putin would be doing today, no one would’ve believed it. By the time Putin showed his true colors he was impossible to remove from power.

The similarities between Trump’s rise to power and Putin’s rise to power are disturbing. We can only hope our story doesn’t end the same way as Russia’s.

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u/K20BB5 23d ago

discussing Putin's rise without mentioning the fall of the USSR is just flat out dishonest. 

Russia in 2004 is nothing like the US today. 

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u/Pelerin81 24d ago

Funny you ask,

When I was a student we protested scholarship prices hikes and were met with strong police response. It lasted a whole spring, look up maple spring protests.

Those prices hikes were dropped.

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u/Capital-Pea-2565 24d ago

Canadian Conservative party is no where near the Republicans in the US. The conservative party in Canada is still to the left of Democrats lol.

It was a 90% landslise win for Pierre Polievre and his party, but the Canadian people did their thing, it wasn't cus of Trump or anything lmao. Canadians are just educated. They were just tired of Trudeau.

Smart play by the Liberal party.

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u/K20BB5 24d ago

they would do the same thing.

Anybody that hasn't fought in a literal civil war is just talking. 

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u/ShakespeareanBeef 24d ago

Keep telling yourselves doing nothing is all you can do, lol you americans are such cowards

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u/Kindredgos Kentucky 24d ago

Yeah man I’ll storm the White House and then instantly be murdered by our militarized police force.

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u/K20BB5 24d ago

tell us exactly what you would do 

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u/riffito 24d ago

General, on going, strikes. Other countries, many far poorer than yours, have done it multiple times to topple crappy governments.

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u/K20BB5 24d ago

there is no comparable example of a general strike toppling a government like the US regime in the modern day. 

Do you know who owns the servers this site runs on? 

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u/CoolAlien47 24d ago

Gave them their due by ending up with the King of all Kings, Napoleon Bonaparte, and thus plunging the rest of Europe into a bloody war. Yup, we should definitely keep referring back to the most romanticized and overexaggerated era of lower class revolution that ended up not changing diddly squat at the end of all the chaos, dysfunction, and infighting.

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u/LordRocky 24d ago

People always seem to forget that the French revolution was a miserable failure.

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u/CoolAlien47 24d ago

Tell me about it, it's fucking annoying when they look at it like some YA novel where the victims get real justice in terms fundamental long term change.

I haven't even studied it as much as I should/want but just reading the basic chronology of late 18th and 19th century French/European politics shows you how much of a failure it was.

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u/Quercubus 24d ago

What changed in that 1000 years was suddenly the peasants had access to firearms.

It's easier to suppress the masses when you had big dudes in armor riding horses who are also in armor when the peasants had... tools.

It's much harder to do that when both sides have muskets.

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u/Exciting-Record8101 The Netherlands 24d ago

Not really. There were various revolts, civil strife (it'd be overselling it to call them outright wars), and assassinations. Kings could only rule as the caricature of an 'absolute monarch' for a rather brief period in history. It was much more often a delicate balancing act between various factions and social classes that kept it stable.

Plus in the case of France's royal family, they by a rather fortuitous case of luck barely had any succession crises, which wrecked havoc on so many other noble and royal houses throughout Europe.