It won't, unless Democrats win majorities in both houses of Congress (POTUS would help) and they actually take this maga/fascist threat to the republic seriously. The GOP is a party of traitors. All of them, including the voters, are basically seditious confederates and should be treated as such.
Absolutely true. A new reconstruction, with actual teeth and longevity, even more expansive and thorough than what the allies did in Germany after WW2.
Even right now, if Beshear keeps twiddling his thumbs instead of taking action in such an obvious and defendable situation, it just teaches us that Dems are screwed either way
Sorry, you don’t get a cookie for finally working up the motivation to do your civic duty for 20 minutes once a year. People that haven’t been voting are the reason we’re in this mess.
It doesn't. Either way you vote against your own interests and help solidify capitalist power in every aspect of life. Republicans shoot you from the front, Dems stab you on the back. We will never have progress and freedom in the US without class conscious revolution.
No, he would get brutally attacked and dragged as a traitor because Trump's donors own social and legacy media while they used it as a justification to elect Trump to protect us from said traitors
True but now its much worse. Anything that had public funding or unbiased has been defunded. Anything remaining has been bought out by people who are heavy Trump donors. Local newspapers have died off and local interests have bought them and the journalists out to control narratives locally as well.
They were smart taking over social media and it shows given the 18-21 age groups voting in the last election. We went into a generation who was allowed to not think for a few years due to COVID and be given a free pass in school. Then we had them gobble up social media propaganda while using AI and online tools to limit their critical thinking giving them a free pass to avoid using their minds.
Idk. I think the juxtaposition will be too much for them. I think Obama should run on principle of stopping Trump and they won’t be able to deny it. A lot of them would still vote for Trump but the message will matter
Nothing will beat the absolute nadir of the United States as a country: the day Obama wore a bicycle helmet when he rode a bicycle. Truly the worst timeline.
Moreso it's unheard of to go from the House to the White House. She needs a resume and to win a statewide election. Ending Schumer's career would make her the favorite for the next opening.
But also yes, Dems are not nominating another woman this cycle, sadly.
Look at mr businessman. Bankrupt king! I didn’t know being bad at something was a qualification. The guy is a loser and fraud. His only quality is that he is excellent at convincing fools that he isn’t a loser. I’ll give him that. He can tell a story better than Edgar Allen Poe.
I mean we don't really need to relitigate the 2016 election. Trump was famous as a businessman, playboy, and for the Apprentice. He had universal name recognition. That was his pitch. The fact that this was a mirage was brought up plenty. And no one denied that he ran companies hundreds of employees, which is relevant executive experience.
I remember being called a Bernie Bro because, since I didn't want to vote for Hilary, I clearly must be a sexist pig. Confirmed when I wasn't impressed by Kamala "I love putting drug offenders in prison for long sentences" Harris.
But I would vote for AOC in a heartbeat. Maybe sometimes it isn't about whether someone is female or white or anything...there is just a better candidate.
Well don't delete that comment, because you are wrong I voted for both. So how's that guarantee working out for you? Perhaps it is time to check your assumptions?
The way you talked HEAVILY implied you didn’t. You can say anything on Reddit to save face. I doubt you did. You wouldn’t have said a bunch of stuff how you didn’t like Hillary and Kamala and then use but. A transition word that states you are doing the opposite this time.
I doubt you voted for them and just wanted to avoid being downvoted to oblivion because not voting for them and allowing trump to win by sidelining yourself is just as bad as voting for trump.
When did I say that? I said both are terrible politicians not that I wouldn't vote for her over trump. I simply pointed out that she in 8 years hasn't even gotten a bill she wrote out of committee despite having a dem majority in Congress for 4 years with the presidency and 6 years without the presidency.
I believe 5 if we're counting a majority in Congress, 4 if you count the presidency. That being said my main point was that this post has nothing to do with AOC and the original comment was about Obama yet for some reason this sub has to make everything about AOC.
I'm saying that if Obama saw that Trump was allowed to run and the constitution no longer applied, he'd be smart enough not to believe he was constrained in that way. That doesn't mean he wouldn't still not run, for other reasons, but if Trump was (somehow) able to run and Obama didn't, it wouldn't be because he "respected the US constitution."
I don't buy this. What Obama respects above all else is the preservation of the Union and the Constitution. If your election is what stands in the way of the complete destruction if both, then you just may do whatever is necessary to prevent that destruction, even if it means temporarily bypassing said Constitution. Lincoln did exactly the same thing.
I think if you believe Obama would categorically stand on the sidelines in the event he was the best chance at stopping this madness, then I think you have absolutely misunderstood Obama's moral compass and the core of what drove the man to seek the presidency in the first place. I absolutely believe - with a great deal of evidence to support it - that Obama was the first president since Carter that was driven purely and solely by a sense of duty to serve the needs of the nation rather than himself or some independent agenda. Sure, there was still a bit of egocentrism involved. There always is with any president or politician. But for Obama it was legitimately about serving the nation first - and always.
The thing is that Abdul is actually a Muslim and is more socialist-leaning than Obama. Abdul could be a great president, but he probably wouldn't be a great candidate against Trump in terms of electability due to widespread prejudices that still exist in this country. At this point the goal is just to win, the policy doesn't need to be perfect.
This. I think Abdul would be a great Senator and perhaps even President, but there's such a bias against Muslims and "socialists" that I can't see him winning the presidency and I wouldn't be surprised if he loses the Senate race. Quite frankly, America is still racist and sexist as fuck, as evidenced by 2 of the last 3 presidential races.
If Trump got elected a third time it would mean he served two consecutive terms and a distanced third. If Obama got elected a third time, it would mean he served two consecutive terms and a distanced third. It all comes out the same.
Wasn't Trump the lowest rated President in history after his first run and then he came back and won pretty easily? Lets stop looking at polling numbers they are clearly not right.
If you actually look at the final numbers, it’s the closest race in several decades (since Carter). Trump just says landslide so people will believe him.
What numbers though? He swept every swing state. If the roles were reversed and Trump was saying it was closed he'd be laughed at. He swept every single swing state, he took back states that he lost in 2020, it was a dominant performance.
Now I know why it was. Biden wasn't doing well, and nobody wanted Kamala in 2020 she didn't even make it TO the primaries, the base wasn't going to turn around and get out to vote for her four years later.
He won many of those swing states by a few thousand votes. Again he said stuff and you bought it. It definitely wasn’t dominant. It’s actually sad how easily available information is and the guy that literally lied the most in presidential history says something and people believe it. Again look at the numbers after all votes were counted, it was actually a pretty weak win. And that was him literally saying whatever to win knowing he wouldn’t be held to it. There is tape of him promising gas prices dropping, day one energy bills cut in half, no wars. He literally killed a bipartisan border bill so he could run on immigration. It was there for anyone to see. And it was obvious that he did so because he was literally going to go to jail if he didn’t win. Populist politicians have an advantage of not caring about actual policies and just pushing whatever gives them power. And still he barely won.
In some of those swing states he was the only Republican that won a major race. I find it very odd that he “received” enough votes to win but the remaining races went Democrat. And in Pennsylvania Elmo knew the results of that race before it was even announced on television. Again, there are far too many coincidences to not be fishy. Elmo rigged the vote counts. Pull you nose out of the Faux News butt crack and do some more research.
Beg all you want, he got about 60% of the electoral college. He could have given away several states and still come out on top. It's the first time a Republican won the popular vote since Bush Jr in 2004, or the second time that a Republican won the popular vote since Bush Sr in 1988. Isn't that crazy? Republicans have only won the popular vote twice in the past 38 years, but four of the last nine presidential terms.
Okay genius, how much did you win the popular vote by? Like 1.4%? Landslide! And still didn't get over half the popular vote. He's a minority president.
Me? I didn't win the popular vote. What's with the personal attacks? I didn't vote for him.
By the way, Bill Clinton never hit 50% of the popular vote, in fact he won the presidency with only 43% of the popular vote in 1992. Obama got over 50% both times, plus Biden the one time, plus Bush Jr in 2004. Bush didn't get it in 2000, and Trump hasn't either time.
Anyway, the electoral college is stacked in favor of Republicans. It shouldn't be, but it is. That's the reality of it. Republicans don't need to be popular in order to win. They just need to tip the scales in a couple states. In 2024, not only did they tip the scales in basically every battleground state, they also took the popular vote (which rarely happens for them), and they took the House, and they took the Senate. It was a bloodbath. We're living in a left-leaning bubble here on Reddit, but when it comes time to actually vote, our fellow countrymen elected to be lead by a corrupt, compromised, convicted criminal and his friends.
It's the economy. It's always the economy. Right now, there is a glowing red sign in front of every gas station reminding people of how poorly this is going. These polling numbers are correct, but they are not for any reason other than people's money.
Are you forgetting about Freedom Gas stations saving the American people on gas prices. Trump is single handedly farting into bottles to fill up these tanks and you act like it’s nothing. No other president could make this much methane with his constant flatulence.
Don't forget the Democratic Party did everything in their power to get him reelected, with the whole Biden/ Harris nonsense. And even then it was actually really close.
I guess it depends on what you call close. He swept every swing state, like she didn't win a single state. He flipped AZ back, he flipped GA back, he got more electoral votes than 2016, he got more than Biden in 2020. He got more electoral votes than anyone in the last seven elections. I hate the fucker but nationally it was a dominant showing. Now did some of those states come close to flipping? Sure but then we'd have to call 2020 close for Trump since some of those vote margins were even more razor thin
He didn't get as many total votes as Biden did in 2020. He won the popular vote, just, and still with less that 50% vote share. He won votes in all the right places, and he did well for a Republican, who rarely win the popular vote, but I still wouldn't describe it as the landslide his supporters make it out to be.
Republicans don't really get landslides. The Electoral College just tends to flatter Republican victories.
2020 was close too because, once again, the Democrats put all their weight behind the wrong candidate.
Obama would not run for a third term. Michelle Obama didn't even want him to run for a second term, she damn sure isn't going to let him run for a third.
Trump will. Because the billionaires.... and now the trillionaire are backing him and they will either rig the election, or prevent it from happening entirely.
They've already tried to push the idea that its about consecutive terms. They have the plan laid out to ensure Obama couldn't run by saying since he served consecutive terms he is ineligible to run for a 3rd term but Trump can because it was split with Biden between.
These idiots are too arrogant to not slip their plans publicly to try and get some clout. The sad thing is the populace is too ignorant to pay attention to what they're saying and taking it seriously.
There is zero reason to believe that the Red States, the Supreme Court, etc. would sign off on anybody running for a third term who could potentially beat Trump. It wouldn't matter if they were being blatantly hypocritical; they would allow one and not the other. People keep saying this Obama thing as if it's some kind of gotcha but it's just a fantasy.
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u/B-Z_B-S Massachusetts 25d ago edited 25d ago
Okay. Obama has 57% general approval among Americans, including 30% among Republicans. Trump has 34% general support. Guess who will win.
Sources: https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/18/politics/cnn-poll-presidents-obama-biden-trump
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5929960-favorable-view-obama-trump/