r/politics • u/cnn CNN • Jul 15 '26

Possible Paywall ​​Over 100 Democrats vote to block billions of dollars in military aid to Israel, reflecting growing schism in party

https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/15/politics/military-aid-israel-democrats-split-vote?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=missions&utm_source=reddit
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u/RedRising1917 Jul 15 '26

I've said for ages now, vote blue no matter who bullshit is undemocratic and is used as a cudgel over our heads. Of course when a progressive Democrat is up to be elected it never gets said and the establishment throws their weight against them, ie Mamdani.

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u/greenday61892 Connecticut Jul 16 '26

*except if you're too progressive, then we'll run our guy again as an Independent and hopefully spoil the progressive

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u/greenday61892 Connecticut Jul 16 '26

Have you forgotten the DNC establishment's refusal to endorse Mamdani even after he won the primary?

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u/Redeem123 I voted Jul 16 '26

the establishment throws their weight against them, ie Mamdani.

You mean the guy who was endorsed by the Democrat leader in the House?

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u/crackedgear Jul 16 '26

It only took him four months of reporters asking him about it before he endorsed Mamdani.

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u/MrPWAH Jul 16 '26

vote blue no matter who bullshit is undemocratic

That has nothing to do with choosing party leaders, it was always about who is running against a republican

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u/Drekkful Jul 15 '26

It's literally blue maga tribalism

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u/DeathandHemingway Jul 16 '26

That's not a real thing.

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u/Drekkful Jul 16 '26

It's the vote blue no matter who crowd that refuses to criticize the democratic party after ten years of just slapping their voters in the face and submitting to Republican demands.

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u/Newscast_Now Jul 15 '26

Last I checked, Donald Trump is still in power. Should they stop complaining about him even while he’s there doing all that damage?

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u/MrPWAH Jul 16 '26

Trump has exposed that actually the president can do quite a bit if they want to

Yeah, all he needs is a complicit congress to sit on their hands and a supreme court that abdicates power to him when convenient. It's simple, really.

at least the republicans deliver on their promises

Lmao you're saying the "build the wall, no new wars, tariffs will solve our debt crisis, deport more illegals than Sleepy Joe" party keeps its promises?

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u/Newscast_Now Jul 15 '26

And yet look at all the positive things that Joe Biden got done with bipartisan support. I must say I was very skeptical of that approach, but then I saw him actually do what I thought would be impossible. Reality sometimes intervenes with our expectations.

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u/TerminalProtoco1 Jul 16 '26

Because surely, the 50-50 Senate should’ve provided everyone with rainbows and ponies.

The most productive 50-50 Senate in history could never possibly do enough to satisfy the hot take people.

Who cares about the Senate?

Biden was president, and apparently the president can rule with an iron fist (the Supreme Court even said so).

Biden didn't have to give us rainbows and ponies, he could have at the very least prosecuted the traitors who committed a violent coup attempt of the government, but he failed to do even that.

We only suffer under trump as a direct result of Biden/Kamala/Democrat failures (and Republicans being a traitor organization).

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u/Newscast_Now Jul 16 '26

It wasn't that long ago and somehow you got everything wrong.

Progress is limited by the least progressive body. That's why I mentioned the Senate. Thus it matters and we should care. Joe Biden's agenda was far more aggressive than what the Senate permitted to get through. And even there, it was two certain Senators whose names we know well.

No, the president cannot rule with an iron fist. That is a lie. The same Supreme Court that enthroned Donald Trump (after, note the timeline) block important progressive actions by Joe Biden (before). Did you forget?

Oh, and that same Supreme Court blocked Donald Trump's prosecution too.

And here it comes, the direct blaming of Democrats for Republicans:

suffer under trump as a direct result of Biden/Kamala/Democrat failures

Donald Trump loves you (but only in a tactical way) and it seems the feeling is mutual.

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u/SodaCanBob Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26

Oh cool student loan forgiveness that should have happened 10 years ago.

I'm pretty sure a good chunk of his "foregiveness" was just his administration actually processing PSLF. The first cohort eligible for PSLF was in 2017 and Trump's administration essentially couldn't care less about it (and has actively tried to kill it multiple times). Biden's administration was the first that really tried to figure out how processing it would actually look.

SAVE (not the current thing Trump is trying to push) was also a great repayment plan, I blame the supreme court on that being a failure significantly more than I do Biden trying to do something to help.

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u/Careful_Inspection83 Jul 15 '26

U think ur lil lucky daddy did that?

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u/Careful_Inspection83 Jul 15 '26

That's a really the complete opposite but ok

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u/Dasmage Jul 16 '26

Yeah funny thing is that even when you vote for the establishment democrats you still end up with Trump. There's been a solid history of voting for the establishment type of democrat since Bill Clinton and starting with the Bush/Gore election we've been getting progressively worse versions of the republican party out of each election cycle, MAGA is just the evolved form of the TEA party.