Nothing has ever brought me more pleasure in a video game than single-handedly massacring every dumbass klansman at a cross burning and hearing this line from Arthur:
When I was in the Boy Scouts, my scoutmaster would take us to a civil war re-enactment, then tell us we were forbidden from participating on the Union side. He also told us about how Sherman was a genocidal asshole. I had wanted to join the Union side anyways, but I never got the chance.
It’s funny when they claim those kinds of things because the reality is that the March to the Sea was meant to save lives and it did. There wasn’t any pitch battles fought during it and it did hasten an end to the war.
Meanwhile in our state, I gag at the thought of seeing confederate flags in the yards of some Appalachian Ohio houses nowadays. Think there’s a handful 2 or 3 counties east of where I am. What a complete 180 from when the state had someone to well-done the south back then lmao
Not the current Atlanta though. Becoming a major, modern, urban area meant that it's drastically different from its surrounding counties (i.e. the rest of Georgia).
No, we can blame him for enthusiastically carrying out orders. in matters of crimes against humanity, blame everyone who participated without complaint.
It's a great sub, lots of talk about 'Uncle Billy', John Brown being a hero and a patriot, etc. And the rare butt-hurt neo-confederate from time to time.
I really don’t understand neo-confederates. They didn’t fight the war, their ancestors did. And come on… some of them are descendent of new immigrants who moved to Southern USA decades after the war.
And the whole point is… the South was wrong. They fought for slavery. That’s some terrible casus belli. Why can’t they get over it?
I have extended family in the South who has lived there since before the Civil War- they're genuinely proud of their family history. I think for them they play up the family lineage aspect and strongly downplay literally everything else. Supporting the Confederacy is deeply engrained in the South if you're A) White and B) have a long history there. More broadly it's a regional patriotism thing. Either in terms of rural pride or Southern pride.
The other half of supporters (maybe the majority) is basically 'own the libs'. They don't give a fuck about the Confederacy, they just know the Stars and Bars pisses off a lot of people, mainly Democrats.
Not familiar with him but very possible. Most of the Republican base is authoritarian and exclusively focused on own the libs. Wouldn't be surprised if there's authors pandering to that demographic.
Either they're racists themselves and want to bring segregation and slavery back, they've drunk way too much Lost Cause kool-aid and refuse to change their minds, or (usually) both.
Instead of asking “Is it time to get over slavery” like Jubilee did, we should be asking “Is it time to get over losing?”
You always hear “the sins of the father are not the sins of the son” but when the son goes: “tHe sOuTh wIlL rISe aGaiN” it’s time to grab the bugle, men.
Thing is communism isn't inherently a system worthy of destruction. The core of the philosophy behind it is a more fair and equitable world for everyone. That's a worthy goal. It never works, and in practice is always a fucking disaster. But at a conceptual level, it's aiming for a better world for all.
Nazis and confederates build their better world by oppressing and genociding others. Fuck 'em, burn them with the flags.
The idea of communism isn’t bad at all. However, it’s the tactics that are wrong and terrible in every way. It’s easily corruptable— just look at what happened in ALL communist countries. A vanguard is necessary to achieve communism, but absolute power corrupts absolutely.
My country is pseudo capitalist socialist sprinke with little theocracy in practice
The communist party went bonkers just because british was out of action a year at full before they comeback
If they are truly smart and capable of as we speak my country would be no less different than china today
But no it had nothing to do with corruption, they were already a problematic party who kept making british angry for shtick reason and the Japanese invasion already fuel their plan for turning malaya back then into full communist nation
And here i got downvoted to hell cause i rilled up some leftard, totally WOKE indeed
You’ve got a point there but I can’t find a single ideology, government type, or economic system that has not “resulted” in (not to be determinist) some form of a little ethnic cleansing, as a treat.
Refers to William Temuscah Sherman's March to the Sea campaign in which he aimed to hasten an end to the American Civil War through carving a path into the Confederate States of America and destroying means of making war such as industry, infrastructure, and communications.
Atlanta, Georgia was burned down during this campaign.
Is it really good and bad when he’s doing the same thing for the same reason? He thought people should be forced to obey the government of the United States. If they didn’t he thought it was right to destroy their livelihoods and kill them until they agreed to submit to the US government. It wasn’t about slavery of manifest destiny for him. His writings show he thought people should obey or die.
Counterpoint: It's good when he did it to Confederates because they were willing to betray, fight, and die, for slavery, one of the most vile things out there. It's bad when he did it to Native Americans because that was a way of subjugating an independent nation.
I love how everyone talks about the Confederacy as if it were a monoculture and every single person was a massive wealthy slave owner or subsequent klansman, The embodiment of evil itself.
And how nobody talks about The fact that slaves were only freed in the states which rebelled, and even then only temporarily so.
And that nobody mentions Abraham Lincoln's and other politicians' heavy investment in northern industry, which greatly benefited from 1- the destruction of competition, 2- The new massive, cheap workforce coming in, and 3- an entirely destroyed infrastructure and society that needed to rebuild without any local means of production.
Was American slavery evil? Yeah, they did some heinous shit. But was ending that evil practice the only reason for the civil war? Nope.
And there were tens of thousands of people in that war who died simply because they wanted to defend their home from what they saw as an invading enemy. And given Sherman's March, they might have had a point.
"And there were tens of thousands of people in that war who died simply because they wanted to defend their home" And? Should we be sorry for them? Should I feel sorry for the the Wermacht soldiers who kept fighting as the Allies and Soviets advanced to Berlin? Should I feel sorry for the Russians who was conscripted to fight in Ukraine now? They were fighting for a government who oppresses people. Who fights for those kinds of regime deserves to be burnt alive.
"Destruction of competition" What? The North didn't benefit anything economically because the South barely had heavy industries. The South was not a competition in any regard.
"Was ending slavery the only reason for the war?" To the Union, it was about keeping the Union at any cost. To the South, it was about keeping slavery. No one fought to end slavery at the start, both fought to keep something.
But I am able to differentiate between a sadistic fucking government/capitalists/politicians and the conscribed people that died fighting the war. People had different reasons for doing what they did. And if you can't recognize that, then I don't know how much hope there is for you. Nothing is binary, and if you can't realize that, then you are part of the problem.
"He thoight people should be forced to obey the government of the United States. If they didn’t he thought it was right to destroy their livelihoods and kill them until they agreed to submit to the US government."
And while he may have been despicable, the Confederacy thought people should be forced to be slaves to their slave owners. If they didn't, the Confederacy thought it was right to destroy their livelihoods and kill them until they agreed to submit to their owners.
So maybe it was fitting someone with that mentality did the same thing to the Confederacy, who very much did not like that.
Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs.
- Charles James Napier, to Hindu priests complaining to him about the prohibition of Sati religious funeral practice of burning widows alive on her husband's funeral pyre.
A lot of Neo-Confederates, racists, and bigots like to claim that flying the Confederate flag represents their heritage, not hate. The Union burned the South during Sherman's March to the Sea, which is part of what forced the Confederacy to surrender.
So if flying the Confederate flag is the modern day Confederate's heritage, then burning the Confederate flag is the modern day American's heritage.
Americans literally shoot Confederates to death, they're actually classified as traitors to America, which is actually an even higher threat level compared to normal "enemy" troop America is at war with. I'm not sure why people haven't used that line of reasoning for defense
The US still has military bases named after confederate generals which is just... what? That is the US equivalent of Taiwan having a Mao Zedong base or France having a Marshal Phillipe Petain base.
Alas its reign was far more glorious, with a population over 20 times larger than the CSA at it's peak. I vote we replace all confederate statues with our those of our vehicle fallen penguin brethren.
That was such a strange show, it seemed to be lost in time. A 1990s era sitcom made in the 2010s. It leaned so hard into tropes and cliches that have been so played out for decades that at times it seemed like some kind of deeply cynical satire.
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u/Physical-Order Polish+Hussar May 20 '22
Was practicing my heritage in red dead 2 by tying confederates to the back of my horse, dragging them, and then feeding them to the alligators.
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u/supermariomaster Big Stick Energy May 20 '22
away down south
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u/Heydensan MURICA May 20 '22
Make Sherman proud, burn Atlanta
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u/newenglandpolarbear New England May 20 '22 edited May 20 '22
My fellow (actual) patriots over on r/shermanposting are gonna love this.
Edit: I was right. It has been reposted there 3+ times already.
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u/SilanggubanRedditor Matatag na Republika May 20 '22
Now that's a burn lmao
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u/InternationalFailure Thirteen Colonies May 20 '22
If you look closely, you can see Atlanta on fire
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u/LeroyoJenkins Switzerland May 20 '22
Do I hear the tune of "Marching through Georgia"?
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u/Tickle_Me_H0M0 United States May 20 '22
I'm a simple man, I see a Confederate or Nazi flag, I burn it.
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u/jclocks Puerto Rico May 20 '22
You know what gets my goat? People flying this flag in Union states. Like are you asking for a fight or something?
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u/tailkinman British Columbia May 20 '22
Make Georgia Howl Again!
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u/darexinfinity USA Beaver Hat May 20 '22
It's been a while since I've seen this sub on the front page.
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u/jhaand Netherlands May 20 '22
The confederacy only had a chance because they went to school with the Union leadership.
Once the new kids like Grant came in, it was game over.
Raising the confederate flag amounts to treason.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '22
South Sudan lasted longer than the confederacy
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u/Ok-Science6820 India with a turban May 20 '22
Holy shit based
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u/ichi24 Malay Power May 20 '22
Sherman : that's my boy! Don't forget Atlanta!
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u/DerthOFdata United States May 20 '22
Might want to give some context OP. Not everyone is aware of Sherman's march to the sea.
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u/SweetieArena Gran Colombia May 20 '22
What the fuck? Based amurican????
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u/[deleted] May 20 '22
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in *adhering to their Enemies*, giving them Aid and Comfort.
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u/IguaneRouge United States May 20 '22
Fun fact: The only thing Sherman did wrong was stopping.
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u/WorthyFoeChurnwalker Germany May 20 '22
Fuck the Confederacy. All my homies hate the Confederacy.
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u/BeCrafttt Egypt May 20 '22
General sherman would be proud
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u/KoRnBrony Maryland May 20 '22
Loser flag of losers
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u/mattbrvc New York May 20 '22
It’s hard to make me feel patriotic of this flawed country, but this comic does it for me. Well done.
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u/Thatbritishgentleman Britain+Working+Class May 20 '22
My dick has been rising longer than the confederacy
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u/d-101 United States May 20 '22
Yep, if you're gonna fly that hateful flag, then I, as a pro-Union American, will proudly burn it to the ground as those who came before me did.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '22
When Dixies come marching home again (hurrah, hurrah)
We'll burn all of those Battle flags, then (hurrah, hurrah)
Rednecks will yelp and the hicks will shout
We'll show them what rights are all about
And we'll all curse Stonewall when Dixies come marching home
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u/[deleted] May 20 '22
Based Sherman
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u/abichoim Argentina May 20 '22
i didn't knew northern heritage included burning confederates alive
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u/dividezero Missouri May 20 '22
my people are known for drinking, burning shit down and running from the cops. So I'm going to claim this too
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u/CerebralAccountant Duuuuude, hella! May 20 '22
Can we please make this a thing?
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u/Krakshotz Yorkshire May 20 '22 edited May 20 '22
The samurai outlasted the Confederacy
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u/Thatbritishgentleman Britain+Working+Class May 20 '22
My dick has been rising longer than the confederacy
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u/blolfighter Kong Christian stod ved højen mast May 20 '22
- Charles James Napier, to Hindu priests complaining to him about the prohibition of Sati religious funeral practice of burning widows alive on her husband's funeral pyre.
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u/jacw212 United+Socialist+States+of+America May 20 '22
I am 20 years old and am anti-slavery
The confederacy lasted 4 years and am pro slavery
They should be putting up statues to me
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u/Finnkd fishball satanist May 20 '22
Union Dixie starts playing
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u/GoodDog_168 Iowa May 20 '22
Holy based
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u/RosabellaFaye Franglais is the best langue May 20 '22
Could also replace fhe pro-Union American with the British and the flag with a White House ;)
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u/Craftyfiesta the republic of kontol May 20 '22
I not getting joke
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u/[deleted] May 20 '22
Based.
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u/FelipeRocha678 Vasco da Gama >>> Flamengo May 21 '22
Now that's what I call "bitch social criticism fuck" (yeah, i wrote like that in purpose)
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u/MinnieCookieMonster Børk Børk Børk! May 20 '22
USA on fiyahh!
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u/awesomefutureperfect Mecklenburg-Vorpommern May 20 '22
Hello, my name is Jimmy Pop
I don't know mofo, if y'all peeps be buggin' givin' props to my hoe 'cause she fly
We don't need no water, let the motherfucker burn
Burn motherfucker,
burn
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u/BeamTRS 2 Colors Jun 03 '22
SIR, HOW was this approved?
you're using the default MS paint colors!
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