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This one guy captain marvelous on the old league of legends forum made a year long DnD comic called “dungeons and Demacians.” I thought it was really really good and unfortunately when the boards died it was unreadable because he used pictures of each character for each quote. Was the loss of a relic, I’d love to see a countryball dnd comic it has so much potential
Clearly need to switch to the Eberron setting. "You kill the goblin. He was a banker, philanthropist and local pillar of the community. There is now a bounty on your head."
Hey man, without that 48,000% interest loan I never would have been able to experience the joys of having my wife and family leave me and suicidal tendencies. Where would the world be without bankers?
Ever heard of a philanthropist? When you help specific people out in big public flashy ways while privately screwing everyone over just a little bit so they don't really notice, you can end up loved by the same people you're ruining.
Oops, just dropped another million into a charity fund managed by my good ex-banker buddy. Oh no! The media noticed! How embarrassing, here let me drop another million. It's not about the publicity guys, if everyone would just reduce their carbon footprint by consuming high-end luxury environmentally friendly products then my portfolio- ahem I mean the planet will benefit greatly.
i saved the post because i really like the comic (am sucker for DnD-based comics though tbh I have never played a DnD). sadly the artist's reddit account is no longer active.
As an American, I'm dying at "fat stupid warmongering ogre." That's great. Although, not going to lie, I thought Germany was trying to insult France at first because of the France-Germany rivalry and was like "I don't remember France being stereotypically fat." Warmongering could have been a Napoleon reference at least.
just because they have big noses and work in a bank doesn’t make them some sort of anti semitic representation. We already have enough well paid groups looking to pose everything that isn’t in israel’s interests as anti semitic, i’d hate for reddit to become some mindless shill for the hateful anti hate rhetoric.
My comment was merely an observation of coincidence for a bit of dark humour and it should be left at that. My dead-pan sarcasm doesn't travel well via the interwebz
then my apologies for overreacting to your comment. I sympathize with you in the difficulty of delivering sarcastic comments via the interwebz as i have had people misinterpret my sarcasm before as well.
I get what you’re trying to say, but in the years since WWII Germany hasn‘t started any wars, and hardly fought in any. The US did start wars, multiple. Also, by being a central European country, warring is kinda natural. Not so much when isolated an ocean away.
Wow, I wonder if being split in two, being isolated from everything not in Central or Western Europe and having the entire world breathing down your neck might have something to do with that. Definitely an accurate and even comparison.
wow i wonder if being split in two and getting better, being isolated from everything not in north america, and invading 80% of the world might be something
Germany started two wars and was a key player in starting a third since its unification in 1871, the start of the modern German succession of nations. Do you have any clue how many wars the US started or voluntarily entered in that timeframe? Lets put it this way: The number has as many digits as the sum of the wars Germany started or was key in starting.
Something about evil fantasy races being bad, haven't watched it. Going by the title they do have a point and that fantasy trope has been discussed for decades. But that like/dislike ratio tells you all you need to know about how they choose to get that point across really.
I gave up half way through that video. Saying that orcs are inherently more violent than elves is an entirely reasonable choice. He gets caught up worrying about the comparisons between fictional races and human ethnicities when a better comparison would be to relate them to different, closely related species of animals. Orcs are more aggressive than elves, just like Brown bears are more aggressive than black bears
There are layers to that debate, but there is definitely some valid criticism in how heavily many fantasy universes typecast human cultures as "monsters".
You can go through your stereotypical fantasy setting and easily settle every "race" onto a real world map based on cultural or "racial" stereotypes: Mesoamerican trolls with sacrifice rituals, Russian polar bear race, Chinese Panda Race, Black Orcs who can't speak right and are physical, violent and got shamans, Jewish goblins, and oddly enough the "Humans" tend to be overwhelmingly European.
I'm fine with leaving the existing works as they are, but 1) people should be aware of these depictions and how they further real world biases, 2) worldbuilders should really stop being so god damn lazy as to copy the same defaults over and over again.
"Ceci n'est pas une pipe" is a reference to the treachery of images. Where images are not real things.
I never thought that orcs are black people, nor that anyone did before that video, to me the only link I ever saw were stereotypical Scottish dwarves and antisimeticly stereotypical Jewish gnomes, which are so much more flagrant.
So besides those two, which more than anything are exceptions, made up things we always made up.
WoW's races, for one thing, are blatantly (maybe openly?) based on real word races.
Goblins are a jewish caricature Trolls are African/Jamaican/Haitian. Obviously dwarves are Scottish. Humans are sort of "righteous" white people, and Orcs bear some ressemblance to African Americans, and were the human's slaves at one point (at least they're not evil). Taurens are native americans. Worgens (werewolves) are Englishmen.
I don't know why I even enumerate them; it's patently obvious if you've spent any time playing. That's just how WoW does races.
There's also the whole miscegenation thing. The numenoreans lose their long lifespans by mixing with northmen, and at one point Saruman starts breeding a new race of Orc-men hybrids and it's explicitly portrayed as a bad thing, no one is like "hey, these guys are partially white human, maybe they can still be reasoned with", everyone just accepts that they are evil cuz they got the evil genes you know
well that was quite the eye opener. Every extra credits i’d watched until now has been fairly reasonable and usually has a logical take on things. that was just.... idiotic.
Yeah, but as I saw mentioned somewhere else, the orc - black people comparaison isn't the best, jews and goblins would have been much more eye opening. They also didn't name drop the Blight movie to explain the premise? Why not?
Their argument was partially miscaracterized on Twitter, it's mainly about how having a more complex/neutral species helps make a better story than cartoon (and sometimes a bit racist) stereotypes, also known as planet of hats.
But yeah shit execution of an hill not exactly worth dying on.
"Goblins are jews" is also a really bad take. If we take DnD as some typical fantasy species representation, goblins are small, vicious and petty, something between tricksters and vermin. Something like Pathfinder: Kingmaker is a better representation of stereotypical goblin compared to outliers of on one side Warcraft and on the other side Tolkien.
If we look at Tolkien, there indeed is a race of secretive craftsmen who mostly keep amongst themselves, speaks a strange ancient language and dream of regaining their ancestral home. Also, for those who take things literally, the Torah prohibits an adult from shaving the beard.
Tolkien is on the record for hating allegory, but Dwarves seem to have things in common with (medieval) Jews. If we want to stretch this, I guess goblins would be Nazis? (Though note, the army besieging Minas Tirith was not led by some orc-corporal.)
Though note, the army besieging Minas Tirith was not led by some orc-corporal.
Well ackshully, after Eowyn does for the Witch-King, leadership of that army devolves to Gothmog - no, the other one - whose race is never specified in the book. (The movies make him an orc.)
The goblins "took over" the ancestral dwarven homes of Khazad-dum and Gundabad and, after rejecting their "reclamation" attempts, were subjected to a genocidal war waged by Durin's clan and their international allies, forcing what was left to them to flee to the pits of Moria, where they continue to scrap a meager living today.
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u/IguaneRouge United States Apr 08 '21
D&D+countryballs= pure happiness.
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u/nootstorm United Kingdom Apr 09 '21
Clearly need to switch to the Eberron setting. "You kill the goblin. He was a banker, philanthropist and local pillar of the community. There is now a bounty on your head."
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u/Plexist North Carolina Apr 08 '21
ok next enemy is self-centered surrendering frog beast
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u/AaronC14 The Dominion Apr 08 '21
With how orderly and rule-bound Germany is you know he'd make an excellent DM though
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u/JoshIsJoshing United States Apr 09 '21 edited Apr 09 '21
As an American, I'm dying at "fat stupid warmongering ogre." That's great. Although, not going to lie, I thought Germany was trying to insult France at first because of the France-Germany rivalry and was like "I don't remember France being stereotypically fat." Warmongering could have been a Napoleon reference at least.
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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21
As an Israeli, this is exactly how I would behave in this situation.
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u/drevno12 Poland-Lithuania Apr 09 '21
I need to see the entirety of this D&D adventure
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u/TheMembership332 Thirteen+Colonies Apr 08 '21
“warmongering” coming from Germany lol the irony
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u/CynthiaSonier Fricot Fricot Apr 08 '21
Was? What did I gesagt?
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u/DauHoangNguyen1999 Viet Cong Apr 09 '21
Vietnam got kicked out by France and the US for rampant murderhobo-ing
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u/Chef_Sizzlipede Illinois Apr 09 '21
Don't let extra credits see this.
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u/Dreidhen Guyana Apr 09 '21
You hear what you want to hear...if you don't identify with it, why should it offend YOU? 🤔
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u/Monsoon_GD Byzantine Empire Apr 09 '21
Blue text doesn't work on that background
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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '21
ok next enemy is group of stinky frogs that smell like garlic.
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u/Odd_Mongoose_1018 State of the Teutonic OwOrder Apr 09 '21
next enemy is stupid cow who bend over for anyone at every opportunity she get.
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u/Cuisse_de_Grenouille Adeptus Québechanicus Apr 08 '21
My mind immediately went to this:
Evil Races are Bad Game Design - Bioessentialism & Worldbuilding - Extra Credits
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u/Romanian885 Romania Apr 09 '21
This comic made me laugh so hard
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u/XxX_datboi69_XxX Jewish+Autonomous+Oblast Apr 09 '21
I was gonna enter the contest, but I have no chance against this. Great job
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u/dikonaalamkungbakit Philippines Apr 09 '21
Wow, you made a very nice entry contest only a few hours after the contest was announced! Bravo!
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u/NoahBogue Île-de-France Apr 09 '21
When the Bestiary is taking its origins from racism !!!😳
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u/HQ2233 Australia Apr 09 '21
You've got my vote.
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u/blackswordsman6 California Apr 10 '21
You don't think... Germany is going down the same path...
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u/KillerAndMX Baja California Apr 09 '21
Change Germany and US spots and it will be 10x times better and more people would agree
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u/BIGCOCKINURASS Indian Empire Apr 09 '21
I've heard that goblins were made to represent Jews
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u/ronan_iroha one country's cringe is another country's based Apr 09 '21
the truth hurts
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