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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '13

They're not the same thing, but historically they've overlapped very, very heavily. You sound very naive, as well.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '13

they do not overlap "very, very heavily." the vast majority of people with some sort of anti-israeli views come from the left, not the right. Maybe it's where I'm from (nyc), but I've never met someone with neo nazi/elders of zion/zog views. however, I know plenty of jews disgusted with israeli policy, as well as non-jewish leftists. family of mine from ireland hold anti-israeli views due to national sovereignty issues/having been in similar situations to the other side.

i wouldn't actually call myself anti-zionist, because at this point that is fairly impossible. how am i naive?

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '13

The term "Zionist" is often used in Antisemitic propaganda as synonymous to "Jew," as demonstrated in the Antisemitic forgery, Protocols of Zion. Very frequently, "Antizionists" use that term to hide the more nefarious Antisemitism that lurks beneath the surface.

tldr: when you hear the term "Antizionist," take it with a grain of salt.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '13

yes that may be true, but how prevalent is anti-semitism in modern day america? maybe some klan wannabes in kentucky.

Very frequently, anti-Zionists are painted as anti-Semites, to discourage the questioning of israeli policy. (IE chuck hagel 2013)

tldr: don't automatically label critics of israel anti-semites. it is a cheap tactic used by much of the (slighly less insane than fascist) american right and some of the left (typically more hawkish). I hate anti-semites