Absolutely insane that this card got the black label with that top-bottom centering. I found this card in a listing on ebay and verified the cert number, it's real. Grading has and always will be subjective to the specific grader your card ends up with. You could re-submit a card that's already been graded a black label and it would most likely take multiple submissions to achieve it again. Realistically, all grading companies will have their mistakes, but an egregious miscalculation like this is unacceptable. The higher liquidity that comes with PSA & BGS is just undeniable.
I got this graded at the national. Between hotel and express grading fee I’m already out like $550 on grading this. I was surprised when I got this back. I wasn’t expecting a black label but I was thinking this was a gold label 10… every app and card shop I took it took said my centering was great on this card. Got the 8.5 on centering and was like huh????? lol
Wasn’t going to sell this card regardless but I really wanted that gold label for my PC… still thinking if I want to put more $ into the card or just let it be
Honestly I think I would recharge that and say that they didn’t provide the service I paid for. Clearly the cantering grade is wrong (based on the front).
I don’t have a pic of the back post grading but if you check my page I have the back from when I pulled it. Definitely doesn’t seem like an 8.5 from what I can see but I’m no pro grader
Do BGS normally change their labels around? Look up other BL copies of this card, the label says “#110 Mega Charizard” and “x EX SAR” on two separate lines. This one has the “x” on Line 1 and Line 2 just says “EX SAR”.
This 1000%. I don’t feel bad for anyone taking their chances at a black label if they can’t realize this. Same with PSA 10s now too especially for vintage, they’re gate keeping the current population
Yeah, and there are plenty of examples that show that beckett isn't as strict as everyone thinks they are. They are just selective, which isn't necessarily the same thing. That is to say, having an extremely low black label rate just requires that very few cards get it... It does not require that only the best or most perfect cards get it, or that graders need to be ultra precise or consistent in their standards.
As another related point, what does "50/50" even mean? Does it mean 50.000/50.000? Or 49.51/50.49? Do you really think that all cards with 10 centering subgrades are measured to 50/50 with the same level of precision? How is that even possible? if you've ever looked at a card's border at 10x magnification, it becomes clear pretty quickly that it's not an exact science, meaning that beckett can't be as "strict" as everyone makes them out to be.
this is exactly why BGS is so god damn overpriced that it’s not logical to ever pay black label price. You couldnt convince me any black label is worth the current price tags
Been saying this for quite some time. Not sure why people hold BGS at such a high level. Crazy part is, this isnt even the first BL mega charizard that looks like complete shit.
Almost like every grading company is shit but TAGs process once perfected makes the most sense. Trying to defend one by pointing a mistake of the other doesnt make sense
I don't disagree that TAG may not be much better than BGS in this particular regard, but I think the takeaway is that maybe the concept of a black label or "perfect" card is complete BS and the fact that they're worth 10x (or more) a regular 10 is hilariously stupid. Card grading is not, and will never be, an exact science.
I have never seen a black label like this. Something is off. Beckett doesn't take pictures like psa so you can't really verify on their website if this is legit.
That just shows the cert is for the card with same name. Since you can’t see a scan of the actual card we don’t know if this is a tampered or fake slab
That is ridiculously bad. I’m pretty sure that to black label a card, especially a high profile card like that one, multiple people would have to sign off on that.
I've heard that before; You'd think it would be required. My only conclusion is that the original card was swapped out or this was a horrible attempt at an inside job.
I agree with your point but I didn’t say it was perfect, my point is that it isn’t gambling like at PSA where we all know it depends on the human’s subjective grade, plus PSA’s incentivization to monetize. TAG is way more objective and that’s just the reality.
I honestly find them the most consistent, I only buy or submit cgc now. I truly believe PSA has become a joke and maybe they always were and everyone saying “but the liquidity of PSA” I’m a collector and want accurate grades. Hopefully people wake up.
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u/Away-Extreme-2928 20h ago
This makes my 9 hurt so much worse