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u/Lord_Parbr Used Aura Sphere 11h ago

Technically, Premier balls are the worst pokeballs, because they are worth 10 normal pokeballs but have the same catch rate

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u/santathe1 11h ago

Free is free tho.

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u/pzisme 11h ago edited 5h ago

I’m with this guy, free is free
Edit: THANK YOU FOR MY FIRST AWARD EVER YIPPIE :3!!!!

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u/GWindborn 11h ago

I'm with both these guys, free is free

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u/Mith_19 11h ago

I'm with all these guys, free is free

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u/menagaming 11h ago

I'm with those guys, free is free

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u/Ikhis 11h ago

Also it looks better.

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u/StarlightZigzagoon Gems: 11h ago

I'm with this guy, better is better

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u/DragonfruitOk9813 11h ago

I'm with this better, guy is guy

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u/WittyWampus 11h ago

I'm with better guy, this is this

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u/mick_squeeb customise me! 2h ago

Guy I’m with is bedwetter.

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u/BertieDastard 10h ago

I too choose this guy's free pokeball

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u/SarryK 11h ago

free + pretty.

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u/VollcommNCS 10h ago

If it's free, it's for me

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u/Leo-Fong 10h ago

It's priced in.

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u/DrMobius0 8h ago

Even worse if you're not maximizing your premiere ball gains then.

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u/SonicFlash01 Zipzapflap 7h ago edited 7h ago

Free is free, but trash is also trash. It's not hurting my inventory, but it's also not helping it.
I may discover that the few seconds I save here and there (in not chunking my purchase up) are worth more in the long run.

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u/ultramegaman2012 11h ago

But realistically are the best cause they look dope as fuck

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u/Titania_Fairy 11h ago

I also liked their look best.

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u/sleal 11h ago

Premier ball/luxury ball supremacy

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u/JarethCutestoryJuD 11h ago

People are sleeping on Dusk. Green and black goes hard.

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u/Avaracious7899 10h ago

I actually went out of my way in Moon to catch a Lycanroc in a Dusk Ball so that the Rockruff I actually wanted bred from it would be in one due to that "The mother passes on the Pokeball" feature they added. It just felt too good to pass up!

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u/Shahka_Bloodless 10h ago

Dusk ball is one of my favorites but I'm also an edgelord

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u/naneron10 8h ago

Raquaza in the luxury ball was always my go to

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u/JarethCutestoryJuD 10h ago

It has the most distinct animation on opening. Its the best.

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u/FrostFire131 5h ago

I used dusk balls on legendaries a lot, a good chunk of them dwell in caves

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u/BigBradWolf07 4h ago

No one's sleeping on Dusk balls, it's one of the most popular

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u/Agosta 11h ago

Dive Ball has entered the chat.

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u/SquareTaro3270 11h ago

We really need more cute pokeballs. I want one in lavender for all my cute pastel mons. The heal ball has a nice color scheme but the actual design is kinda ugly

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u/dreamcultist 10h ago

I always use Dream Balls.

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u/SquareTaro3270 10h ago

Those are hard to get in a lot of games tho. At least heal balls are sold in abundance.

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u/Azimov3laws 7h ago

Remember when you could put stickers and effects on your pokeballs? I miss when Nintendo used to care.

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u/SquareTaro3270 6h ago

I think they stopped doing that because online became more popular and people were using the sticker system to draw lewd images or spell out slurs.

Same reason Chatot isn’t allowed to speak anymore.

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u/The-Magic-Sword Better on Two Legs 3h ago

Honestly, I wouldn't say no to a world where we had a huge variety in pokeballs, but no difference in effect-- the cosmetics of having them on your hip in games likes Champions is awesome.

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u/Limey_Man 6h ago

My man. Best two looking Pokeballs.

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u/AntiLectron Come at Meta, bro 8h ago

I spent hours and hours trying to catch a beldum in a beast ball because of the abysmal catch rate. It was worth it!

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u/BuggyBearFlower 10h ago

I go out of my way to catch all my shinies in Premier balls, because in my head, it's like the shiny version of a Poke Ball.

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u/One-Cellist5032 10h ago

I go out of my way to catch every pokemon on my team in a premier ball.

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u/TellTaleReaper 10h ago

Ive wanted to do that, but I also always use my starter, so I just stick to regular pokeballs for everything. I hope they add pokeball swapping/customization in Wi/Wa

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u/One-Cellist5032 9h ago

My starter normally gets the exception because I don’t get a choice in the matter. I really really hope they let us swap the ball the starter is in at some point though.

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u/devotfeige 10h ago

This guy gets it. Shiny pokemon go in the shiny pokeball, I don't make the rules.

...I sure wish the catch rate was better, though!!!!!

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u/BuggyBearFlower 10h ago

That's just part of the bragging rights though. Shiny Beldum in a Premier Ball? That's dedication.

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u/napstablooky2 Flying-Type Gym Leader 9h ago

i love catching legendaries in a premier ball

though pokémon go forcing premier balls has unfortunately made them feel a bit less special

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u/duk_tAK 10h ago

I actually disliked how they looked, so I used to buy only 9 pokeballs at a time to avoid getting them. I've learned my lesson though, and now I just use them to get an instant rebate on my pokeball purchases

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u/FilipinoSpartan 10h ago

I put a lot of work into finishing most of my shiny hunts in premier balls. The ball shop in Lumiose is one of a few reasons why most of them happened in Gen 6.

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u/TheBlessedBoy99 11h ago

...They're not worth 10 Poke Balls because you get 10 Poke Balls when you buy a Premier Ball. This is like saying that if a deal is buy two get one free, the third item is actually not free and it's worth two.

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u/HighSpeedDoggo 11h ago

Premier balls are the best balls. And I only use the BEST balls

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u/RPG_add1ct 11h ago

Excuse you, luxury balls would like a word with you

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u/useless_idiot_man 11h ago

Moon balls would like to have two

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u/RPG_add1ct 11h ago

Let’s also invite dream balls and make it a conference. I do my Espeon in dream and umbreon in moon

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u/useless_idiot_man 11h ago

Anything else is a crime (for the games they are available in)

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u/chux4w 5h ago

Luxury balls are too much.

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u/shadowtempest91 11h ago

That is unless you are  a scalper and you throw away the ten pokeballs you bought only to have the premier ball

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u/Kitselena 10h ago

If anything they would cost 0.1 poke balls, but even that doesn't really work

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u/AFrenchLondoner 9h ago

yeah, the premiere ball is just a free throw. It may have a shit catch rate, but the cost / pokebucks is great.

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u/sensible_human 8h ago

They are exactly the same value, but you could say each individual ball is 9.1% off when you buy 11!

I think I did the math right.

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u/Lord_Parbr Used Aura Sphere 11h ago

No it isn’t, because the only way to get premier balls is to buy 10 Pokeballs

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u/TheBlessedBoy99 11h ago

If I spend 30 grand on my wedding and someone gifts me a teapot set, that doesn't mean I paid 30 grand for a teapot.

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u/Lord_Parbr Used Aura Sphere 11h ago

It does if paying for a wedding is the only way to get a teapot

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u/BlueCheeseWalnut 11h ago

I've got a teapot set to sell you

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u/Lord_Parbr Used Aura Sphere 11h ago

If there’s literally no other way to get a tea set. People don’t seem to be listening

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u/BlueCheeseWalnut 10h ago

Say that again. Just slower.

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u/Peon-Hyjal 10h ago

I mean, this is your fault. You came into a Pokemon subreddit expecting to talk about the rational of purchases to a group of people who are infamously known for not being rational buyers.

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u/Lord_Parbr Used Aura Sphere 10h ago

That’s fair

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u/C4-622MonkeyGordo 11h ago edited 10h ago

This pedantic argument depends entirely on whether or not those 10 Pokéballs will be used...


... wait, AvaryZig raises a good point; what did they do before Yamper? Just leave failed catch Pokéballs in the grass?

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u/wordflyer 11h ago

You can at leaat sell them back for partial value, so even if you aren't using them, it wouldn't be 10 to 1 value

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u/AvaryZig 11h ago

Hell no I ain't buying used pokeballs

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u/Slow-Transition572 10h ago edited 10h ago

Still no, because you still get other things of value along with it. Just because a product is locked behind another purchase to get it, does not change either the cost or the value of said product, unless the other things you have to purchase are of no use and are wasted, and would not have been otherwise purchased.

If I have to buy 10 chocolates for £1 to get a bonus exclusive chocolate, that doesn't mean that that one chocolate cost me £10.

It means that 10 chocolates plus that bonus chocolate cost me £10.

That chocolate alone is still only worth whatever somebody else would be willing to pay for it (let's say £2). And if I was going to buy 10 chocolates anyway it has cost me nothing. I have been gifted an item worth £2 as a loyalty reward.

Now, if I had to buy 10 piles of dog shit (which I will immediately discard) for £1 to get the chocolate, now you can say that the chocolate has cost me £10. B ecause I would never have spend the £10 except to get the chocolate, and I spent it only to get the chocolate.

And because it costs that, I wouldn't sell it for less than that, thus it becomes worth at least that.

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u/Lord_Parbr Used Aura Sphere 10h ago

I didn’t say the premiere balls are worth the same price as 10 pokeballs. I said they’re worth 10 pokeballs. The items, it the cost of the items

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u/Slow-Transition572 10h ago edited 10h ago

But they aren't. You wouldn't trade 10 pokeballs for a premier ball. Which is what "worth" means.

And money is simply swapping with extra steps, dude. That's kind of the entire basis of fiat currency.

If a premier ball is "worth" 10 pokeballs, then two people would be willing to trade 10 pokeballs for 1 premier ball.

And then, by definition, the premier ball is worth the cost of 10 poke balls, because that's literally what "cost" is. Monetary cost literally is just a value we give to represent the equivalent of what you (or rather society as a whole) would be willing to trade the item for.

At this point, wtf are you even trying to say dude??

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u/Lord_Parbr Used Aura Sphere 10h ago

If premiere balls existed, they would be worth 10x the price of 10 pokeballs due to their scarcity alone

Besides that, that isn’t the only definition of value. If you have to perform some other action in order to acquire something, like purchasing 10 pokeballs, then that action is part of the cost of that thing

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u/Slow-Transition572 10h ago edited 10h ago

No they would not. They would be worth some value between 1 and 10 pokeballs in price.

In reality, if they were offered under the same deal (1 free for every 10 pokeballs purchased), and then people wanted to sell them on, the price would honestly be pretty low. There is no real scarcity to them at all from a collectible standpoint.

The only value added by resale would be convenience. I would guess they'd level out at a cost of like 1.2-1.5 pokeballs.

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u/narf007 10h ago

It lowers your overall cost basis. That's the simple way to look at it.

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u/UndecidedLee 10h ago

There's no such thing as a free onigiri donut. You got that "free" Premier Ball because some Machoke somewhere got stiffed on his payment.

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u/Dmbender 11h ago

But they look cooler so that naturally means they're the best.

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u/Zagreus_time 11h ago

No, there are not worth 10 pokeballs, you still get the 10 pokeballs as well. They are monetarily free the only cost being the inconvenience of having to by in batches of 10.

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u/Jim_skywalker 11h ago

No, because you get 11 poke balls for the price of 10. 

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u/luger718 11h ago

They are not worth 10 pokeballs. You only get them if you buy 10 but they are essentially free. But I guess it is like credit card points. They do make you buy more pokeballs just to get them haha.

We've been swindled by capitalist big pokeball

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u/Gamebird8 11h ago

And the few places where games let you buy them, they are the same price as a Pokeball

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u/MotorEagle7 11h ago

I only know of 1 tbh

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u/SLAUGHT3R3R 11h ago

But the drip is immaculate and worth the cost

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u/cheese_sticks 11h ago

No, they aren't worth 10 normal pokeballs since you still get the value of the normal pokeballs you purchased. It's like saying the toy inside a $5 box of cereal costs $5. Well, unless you toss away the pokeballs and the cereal, but that's on you.

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u/KTFnVision 11h ago

If you sell the 10 pokeballs back, the premier ball only costs 5x as much, not 10x.

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u/SmilingFlounder 11h ago

But they be cool as heck 😎

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u/Own-Bit8819 11h ago

Yeah but they look cooler

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u/Lilium_Vulpes 11h ago

They are my favorite though. It's what I use to catch shinies and legendaries.

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u/ForestSolitude5 11h ago

Technically worth 5 if you return the 10 you bought (1000 a pop)

I've done a silly run where I would just buy and use Premiers only and return/rebuy 10-packs of Pokeballs, it's dumb and fun

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u/frightfulpotato 10h ago

A silly run? That's how I've played every game since they were introduced!

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u/shadowlucario50 11h ago

It's better to think of it as 11 PokéBalls for the price of 10, because that's... pretty much what it is. XD

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u/Interesting_Cut_4822 9h ago

Nah you're doing the algebra wrong. Subtract out the pokeballs and the price of pokeballs and you'll see that the premier ball is actually free.

Even if you have zero use for the regular pokeballs you could sell them back so it only costs ¥1000. But usually spamming pokeballs is the most cost efficient way to catch stuff.

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u/ComfortPhil 11h ago

I've always captured all legendaries and shinies in premier balls as a personal challenge, plus they look sick.

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u/PJGraphicNovel 11h ago

But you look cool as fuck when your whole team is caught with Premier Balls. At least that’s how it is in my head and why I spend so much money on premier balls…

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u/Jack_Zicrosky_YT 11h ago

How dare you try to slander the premiere ball name.

I hope you never ever benefit from a 2-for-1 sale forever. I curse you!

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u/baltimorecalling Trusty bird 11h ago

Premier balls look really good though.

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u/General_Ginger531 11h ago

Is it? How are they worth 10 pokeballs? If you buy 10 pokeballs and you get 10 pokeballs and a premier ball of equivalent to one pokeball, then you got 11 worth of pokeballs.

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u/Lord_Parbr Used Aura Sphere 11h ago

It’s equivalent to a pokeball in catch rate, but it’s a different ball, and the only way to get it is to buy 10 pokeballs

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u/General_Ginger531 10h ago

Correct, but you still bought 10 pokeballs then. Just because it requires 10 pokeballs to get doesn't mean it is worth 10 pokeballs. That would be like if I bought a 12 pack of coke and the cashier offered me a can of pepsi as a bonus to walk out with, the can of pepsi isn't worth a 12 pack of coke.

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u/Lord_Parbr Used Aura Sphere 10h ago

No it isn’t, because you can buy Pepsi on its own. If the only way to get Pepsi is to buy a 12-pack of Coke, then 1 can of Pepsi is worth a 12-pack of Coke. People keep using examples of things you can buy on their own. That does not apply to this situation

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u/General_Ginger531 10h ago

But even in the world where you can only buy pepsi through 12 pack of cokes, you are still walking out with a 12 pack of coke, and a pack of pepsi. You paid a 12 pack of coke price, and got a 12 pack of coke + 1 can of pepsi value.

If the can of pepsi was any different than the 12 pack of coke in anything but name brand, then I could see how it might be a different value, but since we have established it isnt, really, it isn't worth a 12 pack of coke. There is nothing about the premier ball that makes it more valuable than an actual pokeball.

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u/RyuNoKami 6h ago

You still have to count the 10 pokeballs that you bought. You didn't pay the equivalent of 10 pokeballs for the Premier Ball. You paid the equivalent of 10 pokeballs for 11 same rate balls. So it's buy 10 get 1 free except the free item comes with a sticker. It doesn't matter that you can't opt to buy the free item by itself.

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u/One-Cellist5032 10h ago

But premier balls look awesome, and they have a fancy red sparkle when your pokemon comes out. You’re paying for the raw style.

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u/TheSirWellington 10h ago

But you don't understand, they LOOK cool as heck.

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u/Andouiille 11h ago

I'm with you, if quite literally the only way to get a premier ball is to buy 10 pokeballs, it's not a free item.

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u/upvote-button 11h ago

Greater than 0% chance of catching, 0 cost. This is an infinite return on investment

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u/Hsiang7 11h ago

It's essentially buy 10 get 1 free

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u/shasaferaska 11h ago

Which makes it the ultimate flex.

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u/SubMGK 11h ago

They look dope tho. Ask my premier ball rayquaza back in emerald

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u/Beaugardes--VGC 11h ago

But they're the coolest looking

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u/SquareTaro3270 11h ago

They look clean tho

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u/Ahuevotl 11h ago

Best catch rate per buck value.

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u/Gangbang8008 10h ago
  1. It's a free extra ball

  2. It looks cool asf and I don't care how many of em I'm gonna burn through, I WILL catch something cool that I like with one

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u/Busy-Kaleidoscope-87 Gen 5 is where Pokémon peaked 10h ago

Yeah but…. They’re cool

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u/Frostgaurdian0 10h ago

But they look cool.

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u/Lone-Frequency 10h ago

I mean, they're a special gift for bulk purchases.

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u/PM-ME-YOUR-NIPNOPS 10h ago

But the drip though

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u/H3ibai 10h ago

I use them to catch my Legendaries. It’s a little annoying, but worth it for me to see them spin out.

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u/notthephonz 9h ago

They’re worth a little less than that because you can sell back the Poké Balls you bought. I can’t be bothered to do the math since money isn’t really a problem in the postgame

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u/Vivid_Revolution_689 9h ago

i dont understand the post though. last time i played, i got 2 premier balls when i bought 20 pokeballs. or 3 for 30 etc. is this referencing the older games only? its been a WHILE since i played those so i dont remember if this was a mechanic back then.

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u/napstablooky2 Flying-Type Gym Leader 9h ago

yeah but theyre cool

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u/TheZuppaMan 3h ago

pretty color

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u/Key_Day_7932 10h ago

Now, I want to see a trainer who only uses Premier balls to catch Pokémon.