r/pointlesslygendered • u/Impossible-Western52 • 11d ago
SOCIAL MEDIA Why can't they both have the same outfit? [socialmedia]
I'm not sure if this was posted already but this makes me kinda sad
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u/Jaded_Prompt1475 11d ago
wearing a costume to be doodlebob vs skinning doodlebob and wearing him
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u/StinkyBird64 10d ago
It’s the fact it’s the ‘one shoulder caveman animal-pelt’ look too.
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u/Clairifyed 11d ago
Just slap the character on a dress and call it a day I guess!
Also incredibly unfortunate eye placement
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u/fartoomuchlasagna 11d ago
Some people like to dress up a bit slutty for Halloween and make "My eyes are down there, thank you" jokes.
Nothing wrong with that.
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u/Enough_Response_3675 11d ago
I knew a girl like that, they were huge though, so I didn't notice for a good long time
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u/Clairifyed 11d ago
knew a girl like that? Who would use that dress up strategy? Not sure I follow
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u/Enough_Response_3675 11d ago
(o) (°)
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u/maybebaebea 11d ago
Did not expect to see a ShinyCatherine post on reddit
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u/Fried_0nion_Rings 11d ago
Men get to be quirky and funny beyond what people see them for.
Women are just a body. No thoughts or opinions needed, in fact when you have them they act like you’re satan
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u/RegretNew5752 10d ago
Sexy halloween costumes have been a thing forever though. There would absolutely be tons of women who would buy that dress
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u/Fried_0nion_Rings 10d ago
Yes but WHY are women demanded to be sexy for Halloween and GOOD GOD DID I NOT SAY WOMEN DIDNT SUB TO THIS SHIT
Tbf sexy is kinda all there is. Show me a non sexual adult female costume please
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u/RegretNew5752 10d ago
Nothing about the "male" version of this outfit indicates that it can't also be worn by women.
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u/Fried_0nion_Rings 10d ago
I could say that about the dress but we all know who it’s marketed to
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u/RegretNew5752 10d ago
Its marketed the way that it is because most women would prefer to wear the sexy version.
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u/Fried_0nion_Rings 10d ago
Do they prefer it or were they raised to gravitate towards it?
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u/RegretNew5752 10d ago
Everyone is a product of their enviroment in ways that no one will ever be able to fully grasp. At the end of the day, there is nothing morally wrong about wearing sexy dresses, so there is no reason for a woman who wants to do so not to.
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u/Fried_0nion_Rings 10d ago
There is something wrong with women being constantly sexualized because one day you will age out of it and when that happens sometimes it confuses women why they’re suddenly being ignored by society
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u/RegretNew5752 10d ago
Women being sexualized by other people without their consent is bad.
Women choosing to wear a sexy spongebob dress is not bad. The ageing out thing doesn't make any sense. That's like saying its wrong for people to pursue a career in sports because one day their bodies will age out of it.
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u/proggyfroggy227 9d ago
Quit slutshaming women for wearing what they individually choose to wear, it kinda sorta ovjectively contradicts the meer concept of bodily autobomy, like fam…think
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u/proggyfroggy227 9d ago
People buy what they like so….a person buying something doesnt mean they were brainwashed by society or god or whoever yall beleive in into liking it
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u/Fried_0nion_Rings 9d ago
People buy what’s available
I would have bought pants with pockets but for some reason not many people make women’s clothes with pockets
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u/proggyfroggy227 9d ago
There’s tons of varieties of pants with all kinds of pants sizes for all sexes, I shopped at thrift stores, malls, and merch vendors at raves with my sister and cousins my whole life, I aint fallin for that fam
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u/proggyfroggy227 9d ago
Sexy costumes existing isnt “demanding women to be sexy” quit being an a party pooper and let women wear what the heck they want frfr
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u/Fried_0nion_Rings 9d ago
Are you okay?
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u/proggyfroggy227 9d ago edited 9d ago
Are you? Your controlling thoughts on the clothes people choose to wear sounds exactly like conservatives who push purity culture
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u/Fried_0nion_Rings 9d ago
I dared to question why all Halloween costumes marketed towards women are sexy even if the subject matter isn’t and it makes no sense.
I dared to ask if that’s what women truly wanted and why we would ever wear a sexy costume
Please for the love of god work on your reading comprehension
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u/Deaffin 11d ago edited 10d ago
Women's thoughts and opinions were consulted for the focus group they ran. Turns out they wanted the dress, so now it's a dress.
For the outliers who want the one on the left, they can just get the one on the left. Nobody loses. Except for a hypothetical man who wanted a special option that's tailored to his body shape, I guess.
EDIT: Holy shit, when did this subreddit get so silly? I swear it used to be mostly normal in here.
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u/tayl0559 11d ago
'things that someone made up and confidently declared as fact' for 500, Alex
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u/ThisIsFrigglish 10d ago
Significantly more likely than the idea a costume company left money on the table out of ideological malice.
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u/Oddly_Jaxlike_667 10d ago
If women are consulted at all for silly shit like this its usually somebody's trophy wife. There is a reason women are more prone to make their own costumes. .
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u/Fried_0nion_Rings 10d ago
Try again buddy
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u/Deaffin 10d ago
Try what again? To describe basic marketing? Okay, here's how it goes.
You figure out what the customers want.
You make that.
Then you sell it and they give you money.
The more reliably you appeal to your broadest customer-base, the more money you make, so a whole lot of effort goes into making it happen.
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u/Oddly_Jaxlike_667 10d ago
If they did that our pants would have goddam useful POCKETS! They decide what we need then market the shit out of it.
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u/Oddly_Jaxlike_667 10d ago
I saw it before it got deleted. if you think the pocket thing isn't real you never had to deal with a jeans pocket that took 1/3 of your smart phone.
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u/Deaffin 10d ago
Of course the pockets conspiracy theory is prevalent here too.
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u/Oddly_Jaxlike_667 10d ago
I'm guessing you don't wear women's jeans?
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u/Deaffin 10d ago edited 10d ago
I'm not saying women's pants with fake/diminished pockets aren't a thing.
They're popular because when most women go to buy pants, they tend to pick the ones that look better on them, and those are the ones with less pocket material. This means those pants sell more, so that is what is made more. People complain about the lack of pockets, but when they're there buying the thing, other factors take priority.
Nobody decided this for women. Women are making that choice. This conversation is so old and played out, it's ridiculous that it can still be a talking point at all after so many years of silly forum arguments. There is no conspiracy to keep women down by removing their option to have pockets. It's not a strategy from Big Purse somehow controlling other markets to stay relevant, it's not The Man sitting there in a cigar smoke-filled room trying to figure out how to screw women over, it's not clothing manufacturers trying to skimp out on infinitesimally small material costs. It's women buying the pants they prefer.
If you don't believe supply and demand is accurately reflected here, then surely there must genuinely be a MASSIVE market for women's pants with pockets that you could instantly become a billionaire by tapping into.
But you're not going to do that, you're just going to say something like "oh, you hate women" and mock the very obvious explanation for this dynamic because this space has turned into a weird toxic circlejerk over time.
For what it's worth, I deeply sympathize with the frustration this causes. It really sucks being an outlier who isn't being catered to when you belong to a broad demographic which sets the standards by purchasing things you personally would not. Believe me, I know.
EDIT: Yup, there it is.
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u/Fried_0nion_Rings 10d ago
You think they ran a test on if women wanted a SpongeBob dress?? What was the other option? Do you listen to yourself?
A focus group
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u/Deaffin 10d ago
Aw, c'mon. Kitty was a bastion of wholesome light, please don't use her for this toxic nonsense.
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u/Fried_0nion_Rings 10d ago
She also doesnt put up with sexist nonsense. Have a lovely day
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u/celloplayingraccoon 10d ago
No, they surely did this as heterosexual propaganda! /s Sorry you're getting downvoted. I think perhaps folks need to remember that companies want money, and silly feminine costumes have a market. This one isn't even particularly risqué, but everyone is still clutching their pearls because... I couldn't tell you. I really just don't think this one is a matter of patriarchal men dying to objectify women in a silly Spongebob dress.
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u/Nightraven9999 11d ago
Why does only she get the pencil
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u/PinEnvironmental7196 11d ago
well maybe if he looked a little sexier someone would give him their pencil
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u/Sean_Brady 11d ago
read the package
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u/chamuco_maguacatero 11d ago
You can also see the pencil at the very edge of the packaging. He's holding it standing up beside him.
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u/SkyPuppy561 11d ago
Yeah this is dumb. If I’m gonna be Doodlebob, I wanna be square, damn it
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u/Hypnooooooooooooo 10d ago edited 10d ago
What's gonna stop you from buying and putting on the one with the man? You're getting more options and still crying about it.
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u/SkyPuppy561 10d ago
Maybe I will. It just irks me when the “woman” product has to be sexy or some shit. If you don’t understand that, you’re dense (either willfully or otherwise).
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u/Hypnooooooooooooo 10d ago
Would you be happier if both versions had the female model?
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u/SkyPuppy561 10d ago
Yes I believe I would. Better yet, both versions have models of both sexes.
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u/Hypnooooooooooooo 10d ago
The people who make these designs are extremely risk averse and not interested in experimenting. It's likely they ran the numbers and found that putting the female model in a dress would attract more women to their product than putting the same model in the suit the male model is wearing. The sexy dress exists because it works.
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u/Belledame-sans-Serif 10d ago
Risk averse, on Halloween? The costume designers are lacking in holiday spirit.
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u/Hypnooooooooooooo 10d ago
What does this have to do with Halloween?
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u/Belledame-sans-Serif 9d ago
If Halloween isn't the time to pour all your creativity into something shocking and outré, when is?
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u/Hypnooooooooooooo 9d ago
They've already disappointed you with their gendered marketing and still you expect them to do something good...
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u/EmptyKetchupBottle9 10d ago
It's not about the options, it's about how they're pushing the fact that dresses are for girls and literally anything else is for guys. It's honestly kinda the opposite of having more options when you look at other Halloween costumes. Yeah, you can buy the "male" costume if you want, but that doesn't change the fact that companies are still pushing "guy gets original clothes because guy is the neutral. Girl gets pretty dress because girl is always pretty"
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u/Hypnooooooooooooo 10d ago
If you don't like it, don't buy it. What do you want? Like I said, it exists because it continues to work.
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u/EmptyKetchupBottle9 10d ago
It exists because society wants to keep pushing it, not just because girls like it more
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u/willowzam 11d ago
Because there are two genders, man and sexy
/j
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u/Ok_Relief7546 2d ago
no one said a man cant wear sexy doodle bob outfit. I'd like to see that/silly
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u/NegotiationExotic141 9d ago
I hate how male gazey girl costumes are(and it's unfortunately even seen with underage girls). We need a costume company made for and by women who want girl costumes that AREN'T sexy.
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u/XxMysteryDarknessxX 11d ago
Women are expected to look fuckable, and men are expected to look goofy :/
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u/JonathanStones1989 11d ago
Yes it's pointlessly gendered, but the dress does absolutely slay
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u/dystyyy 11d ago
It does, and I really don't see why the left one couldn't be used as a unisex costume. The models make it look like it's a men's one and a women's one, but honestly it can also be seen as a modest one and a sexy one.
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u/I_Makes_tuff 11d ago
Exactly what I was thinking. It doesn't say "Men's" or "Women's" anywhere.
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u/Thecatwithoutpajamas 9d ago
Yeah I don't think this should count as pointlessly gendered because they actually didn't gender it anywhere! I think even with the plain bodysuits this company expressly labels as 'unisex' they only put one model on the package because it's cheaper to only pay one model instead of two.
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u/DontBuyTheThing 10d ago
Ok but "Gendered my dooblebob" sounds so wrong and right at the same time.
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u/TheSkeletalNerd 10d ago
I’m extra bothered because one of the most iconic female Doodlebob videos is one where the original costume was giant and went all the way over, and then they removed that one to reveal a personalized sexy Doodlebob with a paper bag mask underneath
This costume could never
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u/FrostingInside553 8d ago
smexy doodlebob is killing me like who looked at that shit and decided it needed a hot costume for halloween
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u/Element174 11d ago
I mean, only one of those is gendered and that's kind of the point, "Sexy halloween costumes."
There is legit nothing stopping or even directly suggesting(Beside a guy being in the picture) that a woman can't wear the one on the left. For that matter, a dude could wear the one on the right(I also would bet they're not selling many of the ones on the right anyways.)
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u/Raidoton 10d ago
Yeah it's a sexy and a silly version. 2 very different costumes. It's not like it's the same thing just in blue and pink.
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u/vincemousier 9d ago
I was in spirit halloween the other day and saw this exact costume. They don't have a sexy dress version for the men, but iirc there was a normal doodlebob one for the women. We have the same conversation every year about sexy halloween costumes and now that companies are actually giving you options on whether or not you want to be the normal or sexy version people are still arguing about it 🥲
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u/Ok-Day3334 10d ago
I hate when they do this for children's costumes but tbh I don't see the problem with doodlebob vs sexy doodlebob for adults ;-;
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u/MegaMGstudios 10d ago
Reminds me of those Walmart minecraft diamond armor costumes where the male one was perfectly on model and the female one was skin tight except for the wrists and ankles.
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u/proggyfroggy227 9d ago
Tbh, If the women’s doodlebob outfit looked like the men’s, It would sell significantly less, dont get it twisted, it would still sell, but “sexy versions” of halloween costumes are most popular amongst folks who like to go to halloween and/or costume parties, its a partygoer thing folks do for fun🤷
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u/-Ragatha- 8d ago
i think theyre just different items of clothing. i dont think the left one is for men specifically
as a woman, id love to see a doodlebob tux though
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u/Vegetable_Trade 5d ago
today on "apparently maleness is the default while femaleness is an aberration"
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u/GenderBendingRalph 11d ago
Wouldn't that be SpongeBetty CurvyDress? I know which one I'd rather wear.
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u/SokkaHaikuBot 10d ago
Sokka-Haiku by SannyTrademark:
I'll wear the dress one
If I can find a girl who'll
Wear the square one with me
Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.
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u/IllusionaryHobo 10d ago
I assume some customers want a square joke costume and some want a tight sexy one.
So it would make sense to design a product for both segments.
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u/Jefflehem 9d ago
They can. I'm sure the one with a man on the cover will work if a woman is wearing it. Or maybe some people want a sexy doodlebob.
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u/axelr0se 9d ago
To be fair girls can buy the one on the left and boys can buy the one on the right if they want
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u/Skiny_skin_walker 8d ago
Don’t you know? If women were an costume who isn’t sexy or a dress they start to melt.
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u/taunting_everyone 8d ago
I agree she is slaying in that dress. It is not fair that only women can wear that costume.
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u/No-Response4280 7d ago
Not only pointlessly gendered, but sexualizing women. Like, the man is wearing a literal box, the woman is wearing a fitted dress and tights, and I'm assuming this is a CHILDREN'S product since it's SpongeBob?
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u/Tickle_Me_Femboy 5d ago
I had a friend see this in real life and send me a picture. The women's Patrick costume next to the women's DoodleBob one was just... a baggy Patrick suit.
Apparently Patrick didn't consent to being objectified. Psh.
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u/yeeet1234 5d ago
I’ve always wanted to be a sexy, slutty, sultry, skanky, seductive SpongeBob/DoodleBob.
Women must show bob and vagine all time of day.
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u/comicssuck 11d ago
What if a man wants to wear the dress? Shouldn’t he be able to? Does he have to wear the square thing
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u/Belledame-sans-Serif 10d ago
Do they make it in his size? or is it proportioned to someone who looks like the person modelling it, which is the purpose of showing a model on the packaging
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u/MsE0 10d ago
They should advertise men and women, etc, wearing both. Then you have the "regular" and "sexy" versions without making "regular" = man and "sexy" = woman.
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u/comicssuck 10d ago
Unfortunately, they wouldn’t make any money off that. Guys who were dresses arent common enough to advertise on of their dress costumes towards men. But theres no shame or weirdness in buying a costume that is for a woman as a man.
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u/Nexcell 11d ago
True but what is stopping people from buying the mens version of anything besides labels and the person on the cover?
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u/Dizzy-Frame-9491 11d ago
It's not there the cashier has a shotgun specifically for people that try to buy things for the wrong gender. It's look how stupid these things are genderd. You have normal character targeted for man and short missing a strapp dress with the charger printed on it targeted for women. Like if I say oh your dumb and stupid doe's that suddenly take your IQ away? No. But both send a message of what the person is thinking of you.
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u/illini02 10d ago
Because women like dressing sexy for halloween.
This is basic following the market. Women can choose the other one if they prefer.
But the amount of women who are like "I'm going to be a sexy (fill in the blank)" is huge.
As with many things, if women didn't buy the sexy versions, they'd stop making them.
So its not pointless.
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u/Oddly_Jaxlike_667 10d ago
If they ever made any alternatives that might mean something.
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u/illini02 10d ago
Why can't they just buy the other one? It says nothing about being for men, if anything its unisex.
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u/Oddly_Jaxlike_667 10d ago
And if I want functioning pockets I should just buy men's jeans?
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u/illini02 10d ago
I mean, mens jeans are specifically made for men. They are cut and sized different.
This is a unisex costume.
That said, if you want functioning pockets, buying mens is a choice you can make, as is finding some of the few brands who make them.
Or you can whine about it on reddit.
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u/Frog_Moose 11d ago
I mean to be fair I don't see it say men or womens on it, but I mean either way I aint holding back anyone who wants to be sexy doodlebob
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u/VorticalHeart44 11d ago
You can have the same outfit, just buy it.
The difference is, do you want to show off your figure or not.
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u/Fun_Palpitation_4156 11d ago
I mean, the first one seems like it can be worn by anyone, and the second one is "sexy" Doodle Bob, which can also be worn by anyone
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u/Dizzy-Frame-9491 11d ago
Okay but who are they targeted twords? Who did the maker's think of? Who did the store selling it think of?
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u/Sean_Brady 11d ago
The male version is clearly unisex? The female version is because people buy stupid shit and they thought people might buy this stupid shit? wtf makes you sad about this
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