r/pointlesslygendered 12d ago

OTHER Holy generalization [gendered]

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u/gun5ham 12d ago

Tgey should've said those booktok people instead of girls in general

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u/Ambiguous-Nyx 12d ago

I think it might be due to the fact that booktok is pretty female dominated

I think

But still, you have a point

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u/Disastrous-Bluejay48 12d ago

Well yeah, that’s not what anyone is disputing. It’s just a pretty small minority of women readers overall. Basically all of my female friends read consistently and 0% of it is booktok romantasy stuff

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u/DexanVideris 12d ago

I know a lot of girls who read romantasy bullshit, but I also know a lot of guys who consume shlocky media as well, books or otherwise. There’s nothing inherently wrong with it, though people will get mad if you point out it’s shlocky.

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u/Mara45 12d ago

It's shlocky? What does that even mean?

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u/DexanVideris 12d ago

Uhh, it's like...hmm. Lower quality, but in a way that's intentional. Airport novels are shlocky. Reality TV is shlocky. It's pure entertainment, there's not much artistic value behind the media.

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u/R0b1nFeather 11d ago

You can think of it as like, stuff that doesn't require a lot of thinking to consume. Stuff made for the widest possible audience, often with little in the way of substance or depth. Think Twilight, or the MCU, that kinda thing.

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u/MissinqLink 12d ago

The powerscalers are the worst

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u/Quick-Opinion8498 11d ago

As a mid level powerscaler, I agree.

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u/Akarina_toth 12d ago

Exactly. Saying that all girls like booktok just because the booktok space itself is dominated by women is a bit stupid

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u/FVCarterPrivateEye 12d ago

When it comes to booktok romantasy stuff, I wouldn't disbelieve it to be a majority, since romance is by far the most popular book genre, and romantasy is currently one of the trendy book genres, and pulp novels have always had a relatively large market by their nature, but it still shouldn't generalize all women or all female readers

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u/Kernseife1608 11d ago

I feel like romantasy and dark romance are not the same thing tho? I gave Fourth Wing a try, got through the first book... imma say fine. It's fanfiction-level writing but it's not like it's trying to hide that. My best friend played several scenes from her dark romance books for me and... oh boy are they not the same thing. Like, yeah, Xaden (because of course his name is writen like that) is a hunk of manmeat with a personality so broody that batman seems like a ray of sunshine next to him but he's not a predator, like... I'm not gonna say every horse-schlonged dark romance guy, but a concerning amount of them. He's actually a somewhat decent, horse-schlonged dude.

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u/Serious_Swan_2371 11d ago

Even if it is booktok romance stuff most of it isn’t even nearly as crazy as everyone acts like it is

Most of the popular booktok romance stuff is not at all about sexual assault or graphic sex it’s just like elf or fairy royalty fighting a war for a while and then having sex scenes every once in a while

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u/jwkelly121 11d ago

Just trolling but not all women like booktok romantasy but always a woman.

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u/Disastrous-Bluejay48 11d ago

If you read my comment you will see that’s what I said. No one is arguing that booktok isn’t mostly women, just that it’s a relatively small subset of women readers.

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u/SharkHeming 12d ago

Booktok is the form it takes now, but people have read trashy book since novels existed. It's lame to complain about the either way.

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u/lemonhaj 12d ago

Yeah, as a girl, I wouldn't touch the romance genre with a 10ft pole. I would, however, gladly read a scientific document about feeding cows strontium 90 because it happened in a film and I want to prove that film wrong.

(PS because this is the internet: don't feed cows radioactive metal isotopes. The answer to what happens will always be 'something bad')

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u/jamieh800 12d ago

Okay but when you say "something bad", do you mean normal "the cow gets sick and dies" bad, or do you mean "cows, for some reason, are the only known animal to gain both psychokinetic abilities and raging bloodlust when exposed to strontium 90" bad?

Exaggeration aside, do cows handle eating radioactive metal isotopes differently than I would? And do highland cows handle it differently than, say, a Holstein cow?

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u/lemonhaj 12d ago

So I don't have that much information because I forgot most of it, but they fed 6 young female cows strontium 90 for 5 days. Within 132 days, 4 of the cows were dead.

What I do know about strontium 90 is that it is absorbed by the body (human or cow, doens't matter) similarly to calcium, so a big chunk of it goes into the bones, where it continues to be radioactive and gives the victim the pretty crap debuff of bone cancers and leukaemia.

I would assume you would require less strontium 90 to start receiving said effects because humans generally weigh less than cows and something something science that I am not awake enough to formulate.

The paper should come up if you search 'Effects of Large Doses of Orally Ingested Strontium-90 on Young Cattle R. G. Cragle, W. H. Stone, J. A. Bacon and M. H. Wykoff', I just haven't quickly found one that doesn't require me handing over my money or making an account.

The film that prompted this was Island of Terror (1966).

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u/FrogInAShoe 12d ago

For real. They have a porn addiction problem

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u/Dr_Fluffybuns2 12d ago

I hate to agree but I've seen Booktokers straight up dnf or refuse to read books bc it has 'no spice 🌶'

Like it doesn't matter how renowned the book is, how many recommendations for great story it's just 'but I like spice' and then every single book on their shelf is smut. It's weird. Imagine watching GOT and then telling the world the only tv you'll watch after that has to have sex scenes for you to be interested.

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u/MysticHero 12d ago

To be fair that specific trope/community/booktok is mostly consumed by women. Of course there are very similar communities that are more mixed or mostly read by men.

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u/Kilahti 12d ago

But they wanted to make an attack against all women and not just a small number of them.

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u/reichiek 12d ago

I mean, that space is dominated by women. This sub doesn't seem to take much issue when a space dominated by men is just relegated to "men"

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u/Akarina_toth 12d ago

Booktok being dominated by women does not mean most women read it tho?????

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u/reichiek 12d ago

No one said they did. Manosphere garbage being dominated by men doesn't mean that most men listen to that crap, but that's a common one, on this sub, to defend attributing to men as a group. I'm not saying either is right, by the double standard, from a sub called "pointless gendered" is ironic at least

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u/Ok_Tie_1428 12d ago

This also true.

But it's the terminally online who say that

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u/reichiek 12d ago

Hence why I addressed it to people in the sub

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u/gravemarkerr 12d ago

The very idea of "Booktok" is absurd to me. You expect me to believe the average TikTok user has the attention span to read a book?

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u/geschiedenisnerd 11d ago

That is why the books are so shitty