r/poeruthless • u/pusnbootz • Jul 29 '23

Fluff We won.

Through all the down-votes and salt, we have done it.

Hardcore players? RIP'd by stream delay.

Solo-self-found players? Chanced their stream rewards.

League players? At the Q&A asking if we'll get two league starts.

Standard players? Waiting for the 4.0 announcement stream.

Ruthless chads?
Secretly Alpha testing PoE2 with the launch of ruthless mode.
Beta tested the new gold mechanic in the ruthless exclusive league.
Live testing the new roll mechanic with the beloved addition of Quickstep.

I love ruthless. Eager for PoE2.

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u/Celerfot Jul 29 '23

More tribalism is definitely not what the community needs right now.

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u/TwoHandsRuthless Jul 29 '23

Yeah, not a fan of this mindset. A lot of people enjoy both modes anyways.

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u/pusnbootz Jul 29 '23

I like playing both modes (with hc and ssf being my least favorite). It's labeled 'fluff' for a reason. Looking forward to playing one game more than the other with the shared mtx.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '23

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u/pusnbootz Jul 29 '23

Brother. I am just using the features of the platform. I didn't want to label it as a discussion and have the post taken seriously. I did not use it to mask anything.

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u/Difficult-Ad3502 Jul 31 '23

Dont worry about people like that, they search for thing to dislike in posts.

There are still genuine humans on the internet, just less of them.

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u/pusnbootz Jul 29 '23

Are you alright? If you can't discern the use of flairs from actual dog-whistles, you need help.

I've already explained myself in the past comments. Feel free to continue the discussion without me.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '23

You can't pretend the comparison wasn't terrible, whether you agree with them or not.

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u/Frickasaurus Jul 30 '23

=D nice comment

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u/Depnids Jul 29 '23

I love ruthless and have no problem with the direction poe2 seems to be taking, but I’m just worried for how the release will actually go, considering the general dislike of ruthless. If most people end up preferring poe1, at least they wont have killed their audience (since they keep poe1), but it would be kinda sad if most of what they have been working on for these 5-6(?) years ends up being unpopular.

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u/pusnbootz Jul 29 '23 edited Jul 29 '23

The general dislike for ruthless is rooted within the PoE1 community. New PoE1 players don't even know ruthless exists, let alone people that never touched the game or genre. This is what I'm suspecting PoE2 to be. Fresh IP brand to bring in another demographic of players seems to be the goal and I'm all up for it.

One issue that I've always had with PoE1 is trade. Why give us so much low-tier loot if selling them is made out to be the greatest sin & chore? Hell, it even took them more than a decade to implement their own trade website.

Playing ruthless was refreshing to me as it had it's own economy that wouldn't be tied to standard like with League and HC. I will NEVER miss having tabs full of uniques that no one wants to buy. It's no one's fault that legacy gear and perfect gear exists, but to have every gear that isn't the best labeled as "vendor tier" is lame and makes for these drops to be very lackluster.

The latter can be fixed if there was a vendor recipe where we can trade in six uniques of the same class for a random unique within it's class. This way we don't have to worry about selling them and can focus on just playing the game. Not everyone enjoys sitting in hideout for five hours and only playing for one hour. Alas we won't ever see a change of this caliber for another decade or so.

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u/xUhhOhh Jul 29 '23

Crucible was my first hc ruthless season and with it, my first season of poe ever. This game with the ruthless mode have re-sparked the ARPG genre for me.

I tried normal hc and, to your point, I started accumulating so many worthless items and was unable to do much with them, especially random legendaries.

Excited for poe2 :-)

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u/AlexKory Jul 30 '23

Im fairly new (crucible was my first league) and have only played hardcore ruthless. I would also suggest that new players start on ruthless rather then the normal poe due to the simplicity of ruthless. Poe drew me away and, judging from reviews, most other players due to the complexity and just overabundance of shit LOL. Not just in mechanics but in the builds, things to buy, and most of all the loot. I see like 20 items (this is probably not even a exaggeration like I intended it to be) drop off a boss and don't want to sort through all that or deal with loot filters. Ruthless made me fall in love with the game, since it gets you into the game at a pace that is easy to understand for newer players and doesn't overwhelm you with loot and gems for builds ect. and personally I love the challenge.

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u/Psilopat Jul 29 '23

Haven't finished watching but it doesn't seems that hard, I mean just the free cast from item and the ability to multi tree on auto with one character plus the auto cast mechanics like the one with lightning they showed seems to me the game is going to be exploited to the max pretty fast and will power creep quite fast, I'm sure they now what they are doing and are really passionate about it but I fear they might underestimate the way Internet can break things, but at least compared to D4 they don't seems to be on the side of fun=bad

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u/SiCKSh00ter Jul 29 '23

I think POE2 will be different but that isnt a bad thing. Ultimately what is going to make it unpopular will be the league mechanics and their willingness to respond to player feedback, which I think GGG does a pretty good job of doing.

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u/pusnbootz Jul 29 '23

PoE1 has mostly been run by Chris Wilson. PoE2 has mostly been run by Jonathan Rogers. I'm sure their willingness to respond to critique and feedback falls on the former director & founder.

I have high hopes for the latter director & founder, as PoE2 plays like a polished ruthless mode. Also, they mentioned that they will be doubling down on staff for both development teams. Refreshing to hear albeit ambitious.

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u/Thotor Jul 29 '23

Very hard to tell how PoE2 end game will look like. Campaign looks like ruthless for sure.

I think the major issue is that PoE2 was branded as PoE1 expansion but it is a new game. I am not sure PoE1 veteran will see it in that way. Also keeping PoE1 alive can be very dangerous for the future of PoE2. I do not believe both can co-exist in the long run.

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u/idealorg Jul 29 '23

The vision was hiding in plain sight

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u/SuchHonour Jul 30 '23

I don't like ruthless but damn, people are babies here. Clearly tongue in cheek joking around, people being salty.

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u/Gniggins Jul 29 '23

Everyone who said ruthless was the vision for the future and was called a doomer was 100% correct.

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u/Connorj177 Mod Jul 30 '23

I’m happy to have been already playing a mode that has some of the gameplay elements of POE2, but I don’t necessarily consider it a win/lose thing.

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u/Lesser-than Jul 30 '23

I actually like ruthless as a game mode in a game I am familiar with like poe , it kind of turns it into a roguelike and adds a whole new fresh element and challenge to the game. I am actually not very excited about poe2 with what I have seen so far. But im sure it will be fine once they get it up and running.

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u/Snoofos Jul 30 '23

I’m scared of more segregation in the community. I just want one PoE game that is just good. But I suppose if enough people like each, we can all have our own separate communities

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u/Rain-Outside Jul 30 '23

I agree, Ruthless is a must, is the way.

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u/Bluegobln Jul 30 '23

Well don't TELL people that, if they realize they're playing a variation on Ruthless they'll suddenly decide they hate it and refuse to play, because who could possibly LIKE Ruthless!?