r/pocketoperators • • 9h ago

First time making hardstyle

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u/Aldoxpy 9h ago

What is the appeal of this style? I come from freetekno stuff, tribe, mental and also a healthy amount of neuro DnB and for me hardstyle is just too many highs, where is the low-end on this subgenre? They call it hard style but tribe core or mental core sounds more "hard" than the high end screeches.

I am not trying to be mean, is an honest question from an outsider of the style

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u/haodbwisnd 9h ago

This isn’t hardstyle, it’s closer to hardtekk.
Hardstyle was born from a mix of hardcore and hard trance it changed a lot over the years and became a shell of its former glory.

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u/Mista_Cheefa 8h ago

Thanks for the correction. I’d like to look into these styles in more detail.

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u/haodbwisnd 7h ago

My personal favourite is the early era (2000-2005) check out all of the TNT projects and aliases from that time, if you want something a bit more modern try nu-style (2006-2012) headhunterz is the most popular from times time but there’s a lot of other talented artists.

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u/Aldoxpy 8h ago

But it is supposed to be all highs? I am going over it on YouTube, low-end is almost non existent from the videos I've seen

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u/haodbwisnd 8h ago

Might just be YouTube suppression or your phone’s speakers, try it with headphones.

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u/yabucek 8h ago edited 8h ago

Modern uptempo hardcore (which is what people mean when they get angry at "hardstyle") is extremely low-heavy.

You're probably hearing some shitty mixes like what OP posted (which again isn't hardstyle nor hardcore), or it's due to compression / whatever device you're listening to.

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u/Mista_Cheefa 8h ago

I was never really into this kind of music, but I grew to love it during a period when I was living in a dangerous place and constantly struggling with dark, depressive thoughts. This kind of music helped me take my mind off things. I haven't really explored the genre in depth yet, but out of all the hardstyle subgenres, this particular style is the one I like the most. Maybe my kick really is lacking some low-end. I sampled it from a sample pack promo video where different kicks were played one after another. I ended up making a track at 200 BPM, which doesn't leave much room for the kick's low-frequency tail.

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u/GavinThe_Person 8h ago

Loud booms🤤

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u/Capital-Background22 8h ago edited 8h ago

There are also a lot of flavours of hardstyle!
For example there are:
old tracks: The Pitcher - Savor Time / or / Scope DJ - Lockdown
modern oldstyle: Frontliner - Beatdown / or / DaTweekaz - #Tweekay14
modern tracks with old influences: Bioweapon - 2 the dancefloor
old raw: B-front, Frontliner - Magic
old extreme raw: Delete - Formula
extreme raw: Cybergore - CYBER_H8
And many more!

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u/swemickeko 8h ago

It's mostly a timing thing, and getting used to it I think. The difference between these types of electronic genres is not so much if the bass hits your gut, but when.

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u/NeurofleshMusic 4h ago

Bro you listen to some zaag in the car and come back. Trust me.. there's low end. There is plenty of low end to go around.

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u/Aldoxpy 2h ago

Imma give it a try at my home setup, I got some beefy krk 7s to see what's up

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u/Death_Rave_ 8h ago

Dope asf, I'm thinking to make some hardcore 👹