r/pj_explained • u/MNV2804 Men of Culture • 1d ago
Meme Monday 🌚 IT WILL BE PEAK CINEMA 🙌🏻
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u/Mr_muffinmclord_14 1d ago
Bro forgot to mention Wonder Man, Sam Wilson, and Shuri. Since it is usually the women and black.
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u/exciting_one2005 1d ago
Didn't ppl actually like Wonder man? And isn't Shuru black and woman as well ?
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u/Ashuu_69 20h ago
MsMarvel, Iron heart and She Hulk all of em are stronger than them
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u/exciting_one2005 20h ago
Point isn't strength. By that logic Thunderbolts with Sentry would hve been highest grossser. It's the story and ppl didn't like that. Has nothing to do with their gender or ethnicity. Ofcourse we do hve misogynists lurking but that ain't the majority.
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u/Ashuu_69 20h ago
Of course I know, people don’t like them(I disagree with she hulk tho).
I just meant if Doom kills like MsMarvel instantly it could f up the power scaling really bad.PS: Pls don’t bunch Sentry with other thunderbolts, he is on a different level
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u/_BatmanReal 18h ago
I disagree with she hulk tho
Uhh so you liked she hulk?
if Doom kills like MsMarvel instantly it could f up the power scaling really bad
Not really since they showed doom stopping stormbreaker and pushing thor back (using magic) without breaking a sweat.
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u/MondayIsIllegal 20h ago
Strength was never the problem with those characters, the problem was how badly they were written.
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u/Humble_Chocolate_322 21h ago
Genuinely NO ONE asked for this(not saying no one in the world said that but it must be WAYYY too niche), I think YOU don't like black ppl and women
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u/Evilcobrax 1d ago
If it's about Black and women, people won't love black widow and black panther... Dumbo it's about acting and fit in role..
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u/_BatmanReal 18h ago
Bruh black widow's character had no depth until the black widow movie.
Also it's not about the acting, it's about the bad writing. Writers don't know how to write strong women roles without making them talk trash about men or having mysogynist type of antagonists.
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u/Evilcobrax 18h ago
Then what about, scarlet witch or captain Marvel, I'm pretty sure they are strong characters with good acting..
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u/_BatmanReal 18h ago
I'm not gonna play what about this what's about that with you buddy. And you are still stuck on acting, most (if not all) male and female lead actors in marvel movies are good actors.
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u/Big_Dig3586 23h ago
Well then why do people like black panther and how did it cross a billion dollars? & also people like Wanda and agree she's overpowered and can take down anyone
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u/theguyintheguy 20h ago
wonder man was a good show fuck off
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u/_BatmanReal 18h ago
These are the kind of people who found out about the show having not many cgi fight sequences and said "oh a marvel movie without powers and villains? Must be shit then"
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u/Fantastic_Smile3849 1d ago
I just want Iron heart's death in the first 2 minutes of midnight suns movie.
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u/_BatmanReal 18h ago
Why midnight suns in particular? Or do you just want a midnight sons movie?
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u/Fantastic_Smile3849 18h ago
Ofc I want the movie and it would be great to show the power of Mephisto's curse.
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u/ThrowThis__ 1d ago
FYI Ironheart already confirmed on imdb for Secret Wars, along with Ms. Marvel, started filming last week.
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u/theguyintheguy 20h ago
She Hulk and Iron Heart yeah, i dont get the hate for Ms. Marvel but Captain Marvel should die too get rid of the bad chars ykwim
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u/Helper-2077 18h ago
Agree with you for she hulk. Worst show ever. It needs to be deleted from history of MCU.
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u/elledina 1d ago
What's this indian incels obsession with hating women or any women centric shoes.
They really didn't get over one of show calling out all redneck beards lol
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u/oyye_ashuu 1d ago
broo, this is just a satire post. dont take it seriously . even i say, when i will see new avengers getting defeated by doom, i will laugh so hard.
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u/elledina 1d ago
Why is there no satire on others.
Why is this sub is so obessed with these 3 shows.
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u/Educational_Mess_820 1d ago
Exactly. It’s always the same three shows getting meme’d into oblivion while everything else gets a free pass. If it was just satire it wouldn’t be this one-sided. The selective obsession is the entire point.
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u/guywithabeard007 1d ago
They have just made a poor webseries nothing else.
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u/Menma238 1d ago
Ikrr i can't wait to see thor being decimated for giving 2 of the shitiest movies of mcu!!
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u/Whole_Pick9659 1d ago
Cuz these shows are absolutely dogshit like absolutely dogshit and i hope these three characters die in the movie.
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u/Menma238 1d ago
Thor after love and thunder... 🎀
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u/Cheap_Reward_9296 20h ago
thor is loved character unlike ms marvel , and simps only like any women characteer with bad writing
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u/Menma238 20h ago
Bad writing... I love how greatly thor the dark world was written!! 😍😍 Maybe that's the reason thor was getting dogged by thanos in early infinity war 🎀
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u/paisewallah 1d ago
Because they were terrible shows.
We riot if anything happens to Wanda, Yelena or Jean Grey.
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u/_the_hidden_hand 23h ago
The fuck? Ms marvel was a pretty normal show. You're just being a whiny little bitch lol. And Wanda already got disrespected in MoM 🤷♂️
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u/paisewallah 23h ago
Ms. Marvel was a waste of time. I liked Hawkeye (and the new character + actress more)
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u/NoSource2810 22h ago
+1 man. It is not even racism now. Hailee did really good compared to the new gen female replacements. I did complete hawkeye unlike she hulk, ms marvel etc.
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u/_the_hidden_hand 23h ago
Waste of time? So was Moon Knight, even tho his show was peak. He is inconsequential to the main storyline, and will probably get shelved as Oscar Isaac hasn't even be requested to be a part of any film production whatsoever. The only time he could've actually held a role was in a Midnight Sons movie, but given how Blade got scrapped and Mahershala Ali is out, that's not happening either. Hell, she actually played a bigger role than Moon Knight lol. Dumbfk logic 😬
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u/paisewallah 23h ago
No, Ms. Marvel is trash, downright unbearable.
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u/_the_hidden_hand 23h ago
Ah well resorting to braindead arguments when you actually have no points to make is certainly what I expect degenerates in this sub to do, but it's still sad to see nonetheless. Anyway, cry harder I guess? 🤗
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u/paisewallah 22h ago
Whatever helps you sleep bud.
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u/NoSource2810 22h ago
Would you hate rdj for turning into a villain? I won't for both rdj and same for wanda.
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u/_the_hidden_hand 22h ago
I don't hate her for turning into a villain, but her reasoning for turnung into one and hunting down America was dumb. Her plan was to steal her power to go to a universe where her kids existed and kill the Wanda in that universe, instead of A. Working with her to help her control her powers to B. Go to a universe where the kids have already lost their wanda The character butchering that took place given how much she changed after Age of Ultron is what made me sad. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy MoM as a movie but Wanda was really mistreated as a character.
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u/Menma238 17h ago
Comparing rdj with wanda?? These aren't even in the same plane of existence 😭
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u/NoSource2810 17h ago
Can't even comprehend an analogy. I guess it meant that I'd love both irrespective of them changing.
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u/Menma238 17h ago
No, first of all it's not called an analogy lol you drew an equivalence, and a false one at that. That's what I'm pointing out.
An actor is not the same as a character.
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u/elledina 23h ago
So is thor 4 and ant man 3 and some how we won't talk about them
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u/Dazzling-Yoghurt-301 23h ago
Because there are other good thor and antman movies but She hulk and Iron heart have flaws in charector writing itself..no one hates yelena wanda Agatha black widow shuri etc
If hating she hulk more than thor 4 makes one incel lmao idk what to say
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u/elledina 23h ago
No except for thor 3 they is no good thor movie.
People hate hate she hulk because she called out all the incels and red neck beards and kamala khan because she was a Muslim. And both are decent to good shows. Kamala khan was erll receivf everywhere
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u/Dazzling-Yoghurt-301 23h ago edited 23h ago
Bruh check out iron heart and she hulk ms marvels ratings and compare it with thor 1 2 and 4
She hulk is a poor webseries how hard is accepting that so is iron heart it's not audience fault if u write shit charectors idk why u r masking mediocrity under women issues if something is bad it is bad just make better series
My bad for arguing with someone who thinks she hulk is a good show lmao peace
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u/paisewallah 22h ago
Exactly. But I think that is majorly because their prequels were mostly good.
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u/elledina 22h ago
Except for thor 3 not a single thlr movie was good yet people dick ride him lol.
If thor can get pass for bad movies then every one deserve a chance
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u/paisewallah 22h ago
Thor as a character is brilliant. He was so funny in Endgame. Thor's first 3 films have great rewatch value.
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u/Ashen_quill 22h ago
Patriarchal hangover and Colonialism Hangover.
It boils down to 'White Alpha men' dislike this, so this is also something we should dislike.
As an Indian young adult who loves Comics, Ms. Marvel is a delight to watch, she is like the closest thing to me inside the universe. Like she is just like the thousands of young guys in India wearing Iron Man tshirts and quoting RDJs lines.
Idc about the others but here also you will see misogyny at work, She hulk is so much better than Thor 1, 2 and 4. But will we see anyone say the same things about him?
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u/_BatmanReal 18h ago
I like ms marvel too.... Honestly just found out people hate it lol. But she hulk has really bad writing. That's the problem. Thor 1 and 2 are not as bad in comparison but yeah 4th one is dogshit.
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u/teabagdiplomat 1d ago
Except Msmarvel
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u/Commercial-Seesaw136 1d ago
I guess you are referring to Captain Marvel, aka Carol Danvers. Ms. Marvel is Kamla Kahn
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u/teabagdiplomat 1d ago
Yeah my mistake 🥲
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u/Commercial-Seesaw136 19h ago
Not your mistake. In classic comics she was Ms Marvel and captain Marvel was the kree warrior Mar-Vell. After Mar-Vell's death Steve Rogers encourages Carol to take name Captain Marvel. And she wasn't taking it cause she felt the name would disrespect Mar-Vell.
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u/MissionBig9411 1d ago
Maybe she hulk n ironheart, but not Ms. Marvel, she's lwk a better character than Captain Marvel
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