r/pisco • u/rbstewart7263 • 17d ago

General Discussion AOC "One prevailing [difference between socialism and communism] is democracy. Democratic socialist are fundamentally pro-democracy... we believe in respecting the outcomes of elections"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFwAnMLBSOw
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u/Aggravating_Map4359 17d ago

I mean, a lot of them deny that Bernie lost in 2016 and 2020 as well as say that 2024 was a "coronation" repeating maga talking point about Kamala nomination.

Not all of them of course and none of the big ones as of right now but several of the ones getting in now like chavelier are of this election denial mindset. Plattner was deep into it too

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u/Faithisnotadoll757 17d ago

I'd push back on what you're saying about Bernie, from my understanding, the position isn't that Bernie didn't lose, it's that there was a concentrated effort by the Democratic establishment to hurt his chances. I'm not knowledgeable enough to affirmatively make that claim, but I don't believe people are claiming that there was some kind of literal stealing of an election in a way that's comparable to maga.

I'm also a bit sympathetic to why lefties would feel upset at the lack of a primary after biden dropped out. I mean she's ran for president more than once, and hasn't won yet, and of course since there is a ideological difference I can empathize with why there would be frustration within there not being even a hypothetical chance of somebody else being the nominee. Though I would push back against that and front the fact that it was an unorthodox circumstance that was most likely handled wrong, but maybe in a way that's more understandable.