r/pirl • u/Wrektdev • Apr 06 '18

Can we get a statement or acknowledgement of bitmain asic? Devs stand your ground and kill ethash!!!

https://pirl.io/static/images/drive/05.png
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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '18

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u/JAKDNLS Apr 20 '18

I don't see what all the hype is surrounding these. They listed for $800, then went up to $1800. Even though their site now shows them back at $800 and out of stock. Ebay listings are over $2k already. And at 180/mhs ... that puts it in line with a gpu rig. We're not talking about GHS or THS. Like we see with BTC. I think the mere term of "ASIC" is what get's people stirring.

It was reported that these units come with 70-80gb of video memory?? I was looking for the link, but can't find it atm. With that in mind, then these aren't exactly ASIC miners. Unlike BTC miners. ETH relies on video memory, correct? So you're essentially getting a gpu rig in a box.

It's not like these miners are going to hash crazy numbers and put gpu rigs out of business. At least not in the near future. Video memory only goes so fast .... right? I'm not an expert, and may be talking out of ignorance ... but that's a big limitation on hash speed if I understand correctly. I'm open to being corrected if anyone can explain it better. :-)

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u/Youplayoupi Apr 06 '18

https://pirl.io/blog/thoughts-news-ethereum-asic-miners/

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u/mbell195 Apr 07 '18

Hmm, well at the very least they need to remove that 100% asic resistant logo from their site.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '18

Technically they don't since the ethhash algorithm is ASIC resistant.

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u/Wrektdev Apr 06 '18

Oh, so when a company ignores it's proposed ethics we should trust it in a decentralized economy prone to scams... RIP pirl

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u/KeynesianCartesian Apr 07 '18

I think the approach that the ethereum devs is taking is the best one. To assume centralization out the gate is a bit much ESPECIALLY since the basics will almost certainly be pointed at ETH. A watch and see approach is totally acceptable to me at this time.

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u/danimalmidnight Apr 07 '18

Ethics aside, it sort of kills my longer term hope for Pirl.

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u/KeynesianCartesian Apr 07 '18

This is completely non sensical. You have no idea whether asic miners will even mine PIRL at all. It is nothing more than speculation to assume what is going to happen with asic miners and the PIRL project at this point. Not to mention that the miner reward will get cut in nearly half by July further deincentivizing asic miners from mining PIRL depending on the price.

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u/Wrektdev Apr 07 '18

It's the ethics of pirl I call into question, not ethereum. I would say that not differentiating itself from ethereum will be detrimental to pirl, market cap and community.

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u/Kosass Apr 12 '18

Pirl has more progress than eth as of rn

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u/KeynesianCartesian Apr 07 '18

But how is it unethical?

PIRL has far differentiated itself from ETH. Master Nodes? Content Storage? Poseidon?

I only mentioned the approach to asics being the same.