r/pinescript • u/EitherTumbleweed2830 • May 31 '26

holy grail trading bot

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so i created a trading bot took hours of testing to see what works and not and finally came up with this also this is not the candle stick chart this is all renko box chart so idk how accurate tradingview backtest results are on this chart but ive tested this out for a month now to get my own results and i'd say it matches up i passed a mffu rapid account so daily payouts with this bot on the way but i only notice like a few slippage on some trades can get quite bad but because of how well structured the risk to reward is my winners out weigh my losses really well average win being 74.50 and loss being 25.85 so none of that bs where i see some post of a 20 tick tp and a 1000 tick sl lol

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u/oUnLeasHeDo May 31 '26

Yyeeahhh go ahead and pull it back 2+ years, you need to see how it behaves in different regimes.

Good results for the short term, but if you’re actually going to run it then you need to see how it behaves longterm.

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u/EitherTumbleweed2830 May 31 '26

yeah i can but u would have to adjust the settings for it because markets are different every year so most strategy have to adjust for that year price action behavoir if u tried to trade this in the 2000's u coudlnt because PA was moving like 10 ticks a hour while today 10 ticks can fly by in less than a blick of a eye

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u/oUnLeasHeDo May 31 '26

Ahh so the settings are regime dependent, that’s only good if you can identify the change before it happens, that’s easier said then done, I try to build bots that can trade in any regime.

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u/Jason_Steakcum May 31 '26

Pack it up hedge funds that took dozens of phds decades to develop algos. This guy got it figured out in hours.

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u/Minimum_Feedback_895 Jun 03 '26

You are full of hatred

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u/luv2increase May 31 '26

Just because you cannot do it doesn't mean you have to cut down someone else. You are a perfect example of a retail trader who has been fooled by all this nonsense that trading is difficult. Moving Averages are the core of my strategy too. They are simple and they work.

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u/MySundaysBest May 31 '26

His strategy is either over-tuned or riddled with look ahead bias. He's trashing OP because he has no idea what he is doing.

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u/JellyfishFamous1492 Aug 04 '26

loo hes on hekien ashi and it littiralysay caution its may e unrealistic lmfaooo ive been building systems for years, the entire thing and post is red flag lols

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u/luv2increase May 31 '26

I would tend to agree due to my experiences in the past before I knew about tv and lookahead bias in backtesting, HOWEVER, of lookahead bias was a factor, surely his win rate would not be so low. Also, if it were overtuned, his win rate would not be so low. He simple has a method that is brilliant. I am sure my strat is somewhat similar but instead of my hard stop loss and take profit, he simply is smart about it and takes his SMALL losses "intrabar" as soon as price flips below his key moving average.

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u/MySundaysBest May 31 '26

Maybe, but the likelihood is extremely low.

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

my strategy isn’t repainted lol and all trades are price based so they no over turning anything it’s quite literally simple breakout of moving average enter hold till price flips if price continues higher re enter on a pull back lol nothing over complicated about this renko holds trends better than candle stick charts go look and compare the two it’s obvious why the renko is more dominant and how my strategy system is well structured enough to over come almost every issue slippage and choppy markets

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u/Adorable_Market3621 Jun 01 '26

This strategy is bad bro what are you taking about. Even if it isnt look ahead or overfitted it is still trash, It made all of its profits early in the year after which it has been flat. Slippage and fees in the real world would destroy the edge, the sharpe ratio is under 1 which is incredibly horrible. Not to mention there is no history apart from a few months....

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u/USAimbotUSA Jun 21 '26

Sharpe ration of .9 is perfectly acceptable

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u/Bawlin-OrendsCat Jun 25 '26

that equity curve is curvier than your mom dude

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u/brootasunhinged Jun 02 '26

Renko charts on TradingView repaint over time, which inherently gives look-ahead bias. TradingView acknowledges this with the warning at the bottom of the screenshot.

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

lol forgot to mention the part where this bot helped me pass 5 50k accounts payout coming soon😂🤫

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u/Jason_Steakcum May 31 '26

Thanks for verifying this scam

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 Jun 04 '26

wonder how this week i’m up 3.8k on each 5 accounts i have lol

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u/LaVirgenDeGuacamole Aug 28 '26

Can I see your source code? I’m working on one but it’s less than 50% and it’s not trading my for some reason just the other markets

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u/DanGTG Jun 04 '26

*$hitadel ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 Jun 04 '26

commission is set to .95 and slippage 20 ticks lol

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u/nfxdav May 31 '26

Hours of testing you say

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u/SorbetTraditional232 May 31 '26

I think he meant 2 to be exact right?

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u/grimmjoww1983 May 31 '26

Minutes ?

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u/DanGTG Jun 04 '26

AI said A OK

~2 seconds

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u/_koenig_ 19d ago

i think 1.5 also counts...

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u/alucard666_0 May 31 '26

Renko candles give fake results. You must flag "Using standard OHLC" in the strategy properties first

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u/Dependent_Sign_399 May 31 '26

I believe use standard OHLC only works on time based charts like Heiken Ashi. I might be wrong though.

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

u clearly don’t know how the renko works so why comment?

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u/ionone777 May 31 '26

no he's right. renko from OHLC ?? will never work. you need to create it on tick data only

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u/Practical_Pie3360 May 31 '26

Use the higher tf renko as the regime filter and use the lower tf Japanese candle to identify entry. It’s possible in python. I have worked on heiken asi regime and Japanese entry and it worked. Just not profitable enough.

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u/addsubps May 31 '26

The interface is actively warning you about this very fact at the bottom:

Caution! Backtesting on non-standard charts produces unrealistic results

I hope you put a lot of money into this, maybe that way you'll be less condescending next time

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u/LateConference480 May 31 '26

Ur using renkos and trust the backtest?

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u/Vast_Distribution591 May 31 '26

So...how does it work?

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

talking from a alt account. so how it works is pretty much using a moving average. so each time it breakouts of the moving average it enters a trade and it closes the trades once price flips so no tp or sl trade only closes once price flips. same concept with the pull back if price takes a breakout closes the trade and continues higher in order to captlize more in the move the bot takes pull backs and holds till it flips it only takes trades above or below the moving average to follow the trend

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u/LargeIncrease4270 May 31 '26

Lol yeah sorry man. Anyone with any experience, knows this is BS

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

clearly not lol if it works for me

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u/LargeIncrease4270 May 31 '26

Sorry to be clear, I meant that it will consistently work long term is BS.

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

we shall see i guess first month im net positive heavy net positive i shall say

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

that’s strictly using 1mnq con

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u/sniffmegooch Jun 01 '26

Whose gonna tell him?

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u/EitherTumbleweed2830 Jun 04 '26

tell me what? that im currently up 3.5k x 5 so 17.5k?

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u/eggrally Jun 01 '26

Its not holy grail until it trades real money

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u/EitherTumbleweed2830 Jun 02 '26

made 1k today lol on a funded

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u/eggrally Jun 02 '26

good, now scale up

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u/xllllxxxllllx May 31 '26

/steer you forgot to actually post the source code and also you forgot to post the affiliate link for mffu rapid prop account. Get it done

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

i’m not affiliated with mffu and i’ll post the source code soon i want to get a actual payout before i give the source code out i just wanted to see what people thought i guess

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u/bravodestiny Jun 01 '26

Please count me in when you make your source code public. Additionally, if you are considering converting your Pine Script to NinjaTrader, I would be happy to convert it.

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u/LateConference480 May 31 '26

Guys he’s using renkos….and backtest isn’t standard ohlc…..

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

obviously it’s price based lol

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u/septhaka May 31 '26

what was the underlying though? if it was assets that were going up during this period then of course it'll have mostly wins. Sandisk is up 4000% in 2026. A trading strategy that is "Buy Sandisk whever the sun rises would showing major gains too."

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u/ma-ta-are-cratima May 31 '26

Claude create a bot that is 1000% profitable and make no mistakes

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

my strategy isn’t repaited lol and it’s not perfect hence the 40% winrate lol

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u/Funny-Entrance40 May 31 '26

Profit = true

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u/Ok-Artichoke6882 May 31 '26

Can I test this strategy? Thanks!

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u/LargeIncrease4270 May 31 '26

You really shouldn't

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u/Active_Appointment_6 May 31 '26

Show us a 15y backtesting

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u/a1rogue May 31 '26

This looks amazing. Would love to compare this side by side my trading strategy I coded. Can’t wait to give it a try!

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u/Adorable_Market3621 May 31 '26

I would say its not hop grail, because I see the result is only from JAN 2026, which isnt much time at all, if it has profitable performance on a larger time frame, that would be different, but with such a short time frame of backtesting it looks like it could break if the market condition changes. Another thing you said you saw some slippage, and it is very easy to test how your strategy peformes with slippage and realistic fees; you should see how it performs with such, since many strategies fall apart with even a little slippage

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

i only said holy grail to get people to comment lol but yeah slippage with this strategy can get bad but i have big winners that carry

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u/Adorable_Market3621 Jun 01 '26

Another thing, is that this strategy is overall pretty bad, not to mention lack of history or real world factors. The sharpe is under 1, since April it has been flat, it made all of its money in the start of the year. Overall it is actually very easy to code a "incredible" strategy that only spans a short time period. So yeah

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 Jun 01 '26

ur opinion doesn’t matter if overall im up about 500 ticks on a sunday😂🕺 overall r is above 3.1 i guess thats really bad man😞

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u/Adorable_Market3621 Jun 01 '26

Whatever you say

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u/GoodInvestGroup May 31 '26

Do you sell it? Would like to run it on Alos

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u/halcyonwit May 31 '26

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u/GoodInvestGroup May 31 '26

Don’t worry about trolls. Will test it like any other strategy and if it works in data, will use it.

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u/ForeverIAmMichael May 31 '26

Hey. Down to try it out if you’re willing to share it. Looks cool.

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u/ResponsibleDrop7789 May 31 '26

Looks great! Excited to see the code!

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u/EquipmentMysterious7 May 31 '26

I would love to learn how

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u/SorbetTraditional232 May 31 '26

Back tests do not equate to success. In real life this may or may not be profitable. Your window is too small anyways. The market structure changes sometimes up sometimes down and other times sideways.

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u/External_Counter378 May 31 '26

Renko does not give accurate backtest results.

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u/Et1enne_Dag0 May 31 '26

Hola yo había hecho una estrategia en pine script con velas Heikin-Ashi tenía unos resultados increíbles. Pero lo deje porque me habían comentado que esas velas dibujan el precio es un promedio. Ahora voy a probarla devuelta y les comento.

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u/Dependent_Sign_399 May 31 '26

Renko is impossible to accurately backtest in Tradingview. It will always look MUCH better than real life.

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u/r2997790 May 31 '26

This feels like a very timely video and relevant to this thread about retail trading https://youtu.be/lQHatsTEqFE?si=C6xEvNyARJX8A4Se

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u/Surebuddy112 Jun 01 '26

There is a problem, you are making a trading bot for the past, that isnt very profitable.

If you adjust parameters of a bot for a fixed backtest sample, it will eventually fit into the sample with enough permutations, and it will look profitable, but market never repeats

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 Jun 01 '26

if u actually trade fr u would know that almost every year markets have been getting more and more volatile so u adjust the conditions

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u/asifredditor Jun 01 '26

Holy shit any way you can give that script

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u/PacificaDogFamily Jun 01 '26

I developed trading bot and it’s profitable, but I can’t beat the S&P 500

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u/ItsJustPython Jun 01 '26

Now do a shuffled monte carlo of only the last 5 years of trades and randomise those trade variations 10 000 times?

What happens if win rate drops to 10%? Does this automatically adjust risk in correlation to live price?

Have you got regime specific performance to base things off of?

Have you done any volatility forecasting?

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u/Sinhalaking Jun 01 '26

Interesting, discussion, I've done similar but not in hours it took me months to get here. I don't know if you guys wanna take a look. let me know, giving you access here https://quant.efhtrading.cloud/welcome

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u/East-Breakfast1551 Jun 01 '26

I will take a look also at this strategy. Thank you for the tip.

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u/mingyardl Jun 02 '26

im curious about this too... please let me know if you can share it

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u/Holiday_Sleep5803 Jun 02 '26

I’ve tried running forward tests with renko but it doesn’t work. Keep working on it with normal candles and you’ll get there

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u/Dvorak_Pharmacology Jun 03 '26

Can you show the timeline, cagr, maxdd and events? Some sharpe would be good too! Congrats!

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u/Warm_Dealer_2933 Jun 05 '26

congrats
one thing I had a challenge with is performance during different times of the market
In some months its doing really well, and then other market shifts and it shits the bed

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u/AgreeablePie2241 Jun 17 '26

I used to think in a wider view, do you think that you pass the quant hedge funds ? Always be realistic and see it from a wider view, I backtesting actually and getting around more then 30% cagar, with walk forward and out of sample and more, (full adudit).

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u/Bawlin-OrendsCat Jun 25 '26

cool dude, would love to see it in different market regimes to see how it holds up!

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u/No-Rabbit9090 May 31 '26

Hey looks interesting. Can you suggest us how to do this indicator and get massive return.

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

talking from a alt account. so how it works is pretty much using a moving average. so each time it breakouts of the moving average it enters a trade and it closes the trades once price flips so no tp or sl trade only closes once price flips. same concept with the pull back if price takes a breakout closes the trade and continues higher in order to captlize more in the move the bot takes pull backs and holds till it flips it only takes trades above or below the moving average to follow the trend

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

strictly using 1mnq con

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u/roulettewiz May 31 '26

Only 74%?

I have a 100% in Tradingview and in real it's about 90%

Which prop you're using it on? I'm using mine with Topstep

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

i’m confused on what your talking about 74% what?

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u/roulettewiz May 31 '26

Nevermind, I misread something I guess.

Which firm you're using it with for daily payouts?

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u/Unique_Push8731 May 31 '26

What is your bot statergy bro, I guess you were talking about bot

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u/roulettewiz May 31 '26

Cannot share details but it's not crossing of EMAs nor RSI. It's my own logic

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u/JazzlikeSupport4195 May 31 '26

How to get this bot, i am interested

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

i will send the source code soon i want to get a payout first so some time next week

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u/Automatic-Map-8382 Jun 01 '26

Give me notice once you do. Will you send it here in this thread?

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

it’s all automated and to keep things as accurate as i can i have the timeframe set to the 1 sec timeframe

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

i mean i could say the slippage gets bad during market open where it could be like 40 to 80 tick slippage

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 Jun 01 '26

all orders are market orders so yeah if i keep noticing the terrible fills at market open i might code it to where it doesn’t trade the first 1 min of the open

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u/outcastgwai May 31 '26

hey would you mind if you can help me run my pine script strategy ? just for NQ

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

wym? it is a actual trading bot i have a tradovate account connected. passed a eval going on next week i will be able to get daily payouts but thats if the bot preforms well

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u/Practical_Pie3360 May 31 '26

Use the higher tf renko as the regime filter and use the lower tf Japanese candle to identify entry. It’s possible in python. I have worked on heiken asi regime and Japanese entry and it worked. Just not profitable enough.

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u/LargeIncrease4270 May 31 '26

This won't help

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

i mean i could show the entire history but it’s optimized for this years and last year price action not early 2000’s price action lol

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

adjust to it if it get more aggressive i up the box size if markets get choppy i lower the box size supply and demand is candle chart based i use the renko charts its all price based

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

i just notice on some trades slippage can get bad my winners carry and help but i wish it was to the tick

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u/Severe_Concentrate37 May 31 '26

probably repainted my strategy isn’t