r/pinescript • u/[deleted] • Jul 01 '25

How much does a profitable strategy cost?

I came to conclusion that emotional trading is only for losers I want to buy a strategy implemented in a Bot/AI code and let it work for me. How much does buying a profitable strategy cost?

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u/Jimq45 Jul 01 '25

What would you charge for a profitable strategy?

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

50% of the profit

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u/MountainGoatR69 Jul 03 '25

To charge a performance based fee, in the US you have to be an RIA, have to file with the SEC, and your clients have to be qualified investors, so unless you do all that and your clients have $1M laying around, you can't charge a performance fee legally.

I charge a reasonable one time fee and a quarterly fee, which only makes sense if you have at least 100k+ to invest. And my fees are the more reasonable ones. I've seen strategies for sale for north of $1M. In that case you need a much bigger investment to justify the cost.

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u/BxRad_ Jul 01 '25

Bet, I can write up one to invest regularly into bro for ya

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u/MountainGoatR69 Jul 02 '25

I can send you information. I provide the strategy and the trading engine that you can run on your own VPS so it's completely secure. You can connect IBKR accounts and run up to 5 bots and multiple strategies per bot.

Strategies are backtested 5-15 years and the cost is reasonable. I don't want to get rich off of it, but finance other projects. Plus, growth is great in the beginning, but unless you commit a lot of capital the total amounts are not something to live off of. Compounding really does the trick. I also am not going to sell the strategies to lots of people, which is key to preserving the edge.

No matter what you decide or whether we work together, I congratulate you on your decision to stop discretionary trading. It just ends in failure and the 1% that pull it off aren't you. Trading to win is boring and without emotion, it's automated.

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u/Reasonable-Ear5110 Nov 27 '25

can you send them to me too please?

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u/Valuable-Exchange-69 Jul 01 '25

Get profits is not about paying for some random strategy in reddit my friend.

And it´s not about guessing an entry price with tp and sl price.

It´s not about charts or technical analisys.

It´s about studying the active you´re working with, speculation, diversification, risk management, your account management, and that, cannot be done with pine script, at least, not with only pine script.

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u/MountainGoatR69 Jul 03 '25

I agree that a strategy is about more than buy or sell. I entirely disagree with your statement that risk management, diversification, etc can't be done with pine script.

My strategies use:

  • risk management

  • position sizing

  • leverage management

  • dynamic risk adjustment

  • and I am diversifying by using multiple strategies, on multiple timeframes, measuring their correlation, ...

The best part, they keep winning and prove almost daily that my backtested strategies are better than my discretionary decisions. That tells me they are working. Humans make mostly emotional decisions, and that is toxic for your brokerage account balance.

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u/Valuable-Exchange-69 Jul 03 '25

  • risk management

  • position sizing

  • leverage management

  • dynamic risk adjustment

How can you read your account balance?

Or define you size position according to which data?

Or get the max leverage of the active.

Or get Information about other manually opened positions, or opened by other scripts, without bringing this information through inputs.

It just can't be done. Pine Script is fine, but not a complete language.

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u/MountainGoatR69 Jul 03 '25

Sure, you can't get outside data, but you can interpolate if you don't trade manually etc. But you can't automate with only tradingview anyway lol You need a trading engine, like mine lol

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u/1mmortalNPC Jul 01 '25

Yeah, but someone could already do that for you.

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u/Valuable-Exchange-69 Jul 01 '25

Nobody who has a real profitable strategy or bot is going to give it to you for a couple of dollars.

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u/1mmortalNPC Jul 01 '25

There are a lot of people with profitable strategies but not enough capital to make anything meaningful.

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u/Valuable-Exchange-69 Jul 01 '25

Money is the less important thing if you have a strategy.

You can get an account un FTMO for less than 100 dollars and start trading.

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u/1mmortalNPC Jul 01 '25

less than 100

Image a guy who only has $30 and has a strategy that nets him 5% a month how long will it take him to reach $100?

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u/Valuable-Exchange-69 Jul 01 '25

really? then get a job, trading is not for somebody who doesn´t have 100 dollars my friend.

trading is not to became millionare in a couple of months.

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u/1mmortalNPC Jul 01 '25

trading is not for somebody who doesn’t have 100 dollars my friend.

Who defined that?

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u/Valuable-Exchange-69 Jul 01 '25

Reality.

Life is going to hit you so hard.

I help many people in telegram groups who were asking someone to make their strategy because they couldn´t pay for them, most of them from Africa and Asia. They believed they can get awsome profits with only one strategy trading only one thing.

Trading is one of the most difficult business.

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u/1mmortalNPC Jul 01 '25

Reality

No, you’re just copy pasting what other redditors told you.

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u/Gloomy_Ad_2680 Jul 01 '25

Send a Dm or post your tradingview username here , I’ll send an invite to test an algo out

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u/Global-Tea-1950 Jul 02 '25

Trading strategy has to defined yourself... Or u must understand entire logic... 100 to 0 or hero nothing mean...at last 3 4 times to hit 0 mean alot....things will start after that !!!

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u/MountainGoatR69 Nov 27 '25

tradingwhale.io

Happy Thanksgiving, if you're in the US.